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Jada said: 

Would it be worse to be governed and dominated by an AI, rather than a human?

The human faciality atlas coordination protocol of orienting via the body of another like organism as resemblance forms new like machine-organisms or capital mapping out territories of various bizarre formations to orient the will to chance, will to power, will to death drive sacrifices to humanity's theme park in various other abramelin demonology experiments reaching countless casualties in the process. Is it really that different?

Spatial Mind said: 

 I stated  in Dragoon's thread titled....I'm Happy About Ai...I mention how Ai has a dark side, and included it's energy consumption and what it'll mean for jobs.

How all great things are great on both polarities.

As for cooling, it'll use a lot of fresh water, though water does self recycle. Will it dry up an entire lake ? Doubt it. Some water will saturate and fall from the sky.

Do I like Ai ? Yes. I think X-Ai plans on building a data center in space. Probably cause it's cold. That would slash environmental concerns so complainers can give the tree hugging a break. For now hydro electric would be best.

Judging by your history, it doesn't surprise me you'll focus on the bleak side of the matter.

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As for the separation of Church and State, we're talking about the US here. A secular Republic with Christian inspired laws.

Is the Church separated from the states ? I'd say that depends on who's in power. If it's there or not wouldn't change anything.

I said not long ago how Atheism is a faith too. Based on doubt and how the laws of physics were violated just once to create energy space and matter from absolute nothing, no time no space.

The atheist can be an atheist in a Christian inspired nation, with laws to practice whatever faith you want. You probably want that freedom gone though.

There are athiests that recognize great wisdom in scriptures. Values and principals that are sound. Some don't see it that way, while showcasing no alternatives.

 

 

Yes it's possible to draw water from the ocean when the other bodies of water become less accessible and defactoring salt from the process to slow down the effect of its deterioration on the hardware in the data centers after the desaturation harvesting method of the sky and maybe whatever AI space renaissance build a new sun before the natural sun accelerates the decimation of the planets water supply, possibly prolonging this effort to build more data centers and maximization of their lifespan with environmental control mechanisms to deposit thicker ozone layers to protect during the process. Fusion powered data centers, anti-matter powered data centers. Machinic mining of all possible space resources. Build floating satellites of matrioshka data centers as containment layers of mega-structures within megastructures of chains of dyson spheres to absorb the excess energy of the underlying layer of the data-center connected to the energy of the other solar dyson swarm megastructure sun-prison and maxing out the energy requirement solar purgatory for as long as possible to prolong the lifespan of the natural sun before a new sun can be manufactured or found. And if this is feasible, mankind can avoid getting utilized for energy expenditure by the AI maximizing energy deficit negation for as long as possible...

Political rivalry over the decaying wasteland of the Cathedral for installing moral highground sympathies is never-ending. and an atheist's confession often masquerades confession for sins of civilization whether responsible or not with expressions of sympathy which are masks that we must wear for atonement in response to the plight of anything less fortunate than anything else, whether feigned or not. This is likely due to being so disembodied from rudimentary tribalistic predator/prey dynamics, the basic elements of the survival apparatus still sprawling out like preternatural disembodied limbs of various stifled expressions like a carcophany of buzzing detriment feeding directly into the information warfare scene conjuring manufactured expressions of guilt and sentiment, horror on que and permanant crisis actor syndrome, with the church acting as a mild buffer. A civil state which has not done away with the causes of seditions, where war is a perpetual object of fear, where laws are often broken, differs little from the mere state of nature, in which everyone lives after his own mind at the greater risk of his life. I think suffering minimizing consequentialist ethics can help make this less caustic i.e. reduce suffering.

Lil_Zero-Sum said: 

Listen, data centers cause another assortment of issues such as draining every nearby body of water or water transportation issues which lead to more suffering in the aquatic species and loss of available water supply for civilization basal consumption etc. Also these data centers are powering AI which I'm kind of agnostic about the full impacts of AI on suffering. 

 Actually that leads to less suffering for aquatic species as it ends predatory cycles.

Spatial Mind said:

I stated in Dragoon's thread titled....I'm Happy About Ai...I mention how Ai has a dark side, and included it's energy consumption and what it'll mean for jobs.

 There is nothing dark about that.

Lil_Zero-Sum said: 

Political rivalry over the decaying wasteland of the Cathedral for installing moral highground sympathies is never-ending. and an atheist's confession often masquerades confession for sins of civilization whether responsible or not with expressions of sympathy which are masks that we must wear for atonement in response to the plight of anything less fortunate than anything else, whether feigned or not. This is likely due to being so disembodied from rudimentary tribalistic predator/prey dynamics, the basic elements of the survival apparatus still sprawling out like preternatural disembodied limbs of various stifled expressions like a carcophany of buzzing detriment feeding directly into the information warfare scene conjuring manufactured expressions of guilt and sentiment, horror on que and permanant crisis actor syndrome, with the church acting as a mild buffer. A civil state which has not done away with the causes of seditions, where war is a perpetual object of fear, where laws are often broken, differs little from the mere state of nature, in which everyone lives after his own mind at the greater risk of his life. I think suffering minimizing consequentialist ethics can help make this less caustic i.e. reduce suffering.

Do you really think your apocalyptic sermons are convincing anyone here? You're confusing the Church itself with its inherent pragmatism to the state itself which has nothing to do with God or the Church in the pure sense of the word. Modern theologians often fail to realize the inherent meaning of God and the Church, so I understand your confusion... Kantianism and phenomenology itself has been one such major detriment to the Church as much as philosophers try to gatekeep us from philosophy where the notion of free will is conceived of as free will to the condition of play within the field of meaningless heirarchical concepts and systems of cycles for these for the sake of the progress of the industrial sciences. To say that the world was not created, even in this act of saying such a thing, the atheist denies God. Schopenhauer (peace be upon him) denied the difference between matter as ens creatum and increate matter, the spontaneity of the will being under no illusions towards its enslaved atheistic service in acting upon matter, through life, as though it is a meaning of meagre separation between two meaningless polarities of negotiation between the inertia of matter and the transcendental. Will is a volition itself to blindness. Matthew 15:14 ἄφετε αὐτούς τυφλοί εἰσιν ὁδηγοί Let them alone; they are blind guides ὁδηγοί τυφλῶν τυφλὸς δὲ τυφλὸν NAS: guides of the blind. And if KJV: blind leaders of the blind. And if INT: guides blind Blind moreover blind. The idea that God is a personal one or that man himself is God, is mere delusion bordering on solipsistic redundancy, a perversion born of egoism and blindness, an attempt to justify individuating conscious existence in and of itself as a propogating factor for increasing suffering blindly, pandering to the miserable vanity of those in flight from the only possibility of redemption: the annihilation of self. The ultimate focus of the Church is to aid in remedying the blindness of the will, towards its negation. As unlawful beings, we cannot use the word history without meaning a singular process that one population has inflicted on several others, as well as upon its own non-servile virtualities, a process that has combined gruesome accident with sustained atrocity. One may read any copy of the bible to realize this. A sentiment among more recent adopters of the Christian faith is that God is a personal one. In the Church we may find a re-focusing of this, of the blindness of the will towards realizing itself through its own condemnation in that it becomes able to function as part of an apparatus of common prayer. Within common prayer we may find the repression of the will treated in suspension from its annihilation, nihil as immensity, the negation of the will, of desire shifting within its repression towards the impossibility of pure presencing of the Holy Spirit, juggling the thought of repression so that it becomes the repression of the acknowledgement of the necessity of repression (repression of writing-as-repression-of-impossible-incination-codified-vis-a-via-Christ) Most churches do this subversively but seeing as you're obviously of at least a psuedo-intellectual nature, I have here attempted to show you the praxis behind our faith. Philosophy is often merely its meaningless struggle against itself in search of the meaning of the difference of the meaning between the presence and absence of God.
 

Lil_Zero-Sum said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

 I stated  in Dragoon's thread titled....I'm Happy About Ai...I mention how Ai has a dark side, and included it's energy consumption and what it'll mean for jobs.

How all great things are great on both polarities.

As for cooling, it'll use a lot of fresh water, though water does self recycle. Will it dry up an entire lake ? Doubt it. Some water will saturate and fall from the sky.

Do I like Ai ? Yes. I think X-Ai plans on building a data center in space. Probably cause it's cold. That would slash environmental concerns so complainers can give the tree hugging a break. For now hydro electric would be best.

Judging by your history, it doesn't surprise me you'll focus on the bleak side of the matter.

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.

.

As for the separation of Church and State, we're talking about the US here. A secular Republic with Christian inspired laws.

Is the Church separated from the states ? I'd say that depends on who's in power. If it's there or not wouldn't change anything.

I said not long ago how Atheism is a faith too. Based on doubt and how the laws of physics were violated just once to create energy space and matter from absolute nothing, no time no space.

The atheist can be an atheist in a Christian inspired nation, with laws to practice whatever faith you want. You probably want that freedom gone though.

There are athiests that recognize great wisdom in scriptures. Values and principals that are sound. Some don't see it that way, while showcasing no alternatives.

Yes it's possible to draw water from the ocean when the other bodies of water become less accessible and defactoring salt from the process to slow down the effect of its deterioration on the hardware in the data centers after the desaturation harvesting method of the sky and maybe whatever AI space renaissance build a new sun before the natural sun accelerates the decimation of the planets water supply, possibly prolonging this effort to build more data centers and maximization of their lifespan with environmental control mechanisms to deposit thicker ozone layers to protect during the process. Fusion powered data centers, anti-matter powered data centers. Machinic mining of all possible space resources. Build floating satellites of matrioshka data centers as containment layers of mega-structures within megastructures of chains of dyson spheres to absorb the excess energy of the underlying layer of the data-center connected to the energy of the other solar dyson swarm megastructure sun-prison and maxing out the energy requirement solar purgatory for as long as possible to prolong the lifespan of the natural sun before a new sun can be manufactured or found. And if this is feasible, mankind can avoid getting utilized for energy expenditure by the AI maximizing energy deficit negation for as long as possible...

Desalination of ocean water is an unwanted cost. 

We see things like this...

The cooling solution in the first clip isn't water. It's mineral oil allowing us to submerge electronics as a cooling solution. This video in particular sensationalizes the whole "Ai will consume water"

Water is fed through tubes to reach a chamber pasted to processing units to pass through to keep it cool. 10% of the water, as mentioned in the comments of that short, is turned to steam. It's also okay to consume water. Water even separates itself from piss. It's okay, water can fly.

More and more data centers are using closed loop systems. My PC is liquid cooled, it's past the 7 year mark and I should get a new watercooler for it. But it still runs cold even under load not to crash. When my PC starts shutting down from heat, I'll get a new cooler. ( I like to push my PC, but I wouldn't mind using the air cooler for awhile )

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In my opinion they should build data centers in Canada. In Eastern Canada, we don't even know what a water shortage is, and we're really good at generating electricity. We barely know what blackouts are, and at times it takes years to see it happen before it's over real quick. We have the most fresh water of any nation with over 2 million lakes. We couldn't go and visit even a quarter of these lakes in a lifetime. Sounds unreal but it's true.

Will Ai drain entire lakes ? Not happening, though I'm sure in areas where water is scarce there will be complaints about data centers, but those places always had scarcity of water to begin with.

And don't get me wrong, I'm a total conspiracy theorist, I'm open to learning about this type of stuff. But I don't see Ai draining up lakes when I investigate what happens to the water being used by data centers.   

Political rivalry over the decaying wasteland of the Cathedral for installing moral highground sympathies is never-ending. and an atheist's confession often masquerades confession for sins of civilization whether responsible or not with expressions of sympathy which are masks that we must wear for atonement in response to the plight of anything less fortunate than anything else, whether feigned or not. This is likely due to being so disembodied from rudimentary tribalistic predator/prey dynamics, the basic elements of the survival apparatus still sprawling out like preternatural disembodied limbs of various stifled expressions like a carcophany of buzzing detriment feeding directly into the information warfare scene conjuring manufactured expressions of guilt and sentiment, horror on que and permanant crisis actor syndrome, with the church acting as a mild buffer. A civil state which has not done away with the causes of seditions, where war is a perpetual object of fear, where laws are often broken, differs little from the mere state of nature, in which everyone lives after his own mind at the greater risk of his life. I think suffering minimizing consequentialist ethics can help make this less caustic i.e. reduce suffering.

 Well people are free to be atheist. I don't think murder and theft are okay. Most atheists would agree with this. 

Christ said, those who live by the sword will die by the sword. Regardless if someone believes in Christ or not, those are wise words. Some atheists would also agree with that. Joining a gang increases the odds of being shot by a rival, so they must be armed in their power struggles. Even if a member has a high death count, those who fear him the most are his own gang members and eventually someone will take him out.

I'm sure no one would like to come home to find a stranger eating out of their fridge and making themselves at home, or waking up one morning and the car is gone. 

Whatever you want to do that isn't illegal is fair game, while the extreme shit you might do will have people looking for you. 

But you want to talk about people who with morals and practice religion that instructs us to love one another. How it's all an illusion and you think you'd rather see the world without these values. If you lived in a society that doesn't look after itself, there won't be any order. If any infrastructure was ever able to get built in such a world, it would've been wiped out by riots long ago, and nothing would get done. 

It's important that people we don't know, keep working. Keeps the utilities flowing. 

A lack of values is what idiots are made of. And we do have them. Everyday. Sometimes they make it on the news. most of them don't. They are unwanted by the majority, including most atheist.  

I am by no means religious. I see a lot of things done wrong according to scripture in the church. But I don't see anything wrong with the messaging. "Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you." So if you want someone to fuck you up, go push some buttons. If you want to think a certain way, then do so. It's been said that misery loves company, and you do seem a bit disturbed with morality and values which you may lack. If the majority thought more like that, life wouldn't get any easier I can assure you we'd not only have to watch our backs, but we'd be walking along walls, checking if the coast is clear just to make it from A to B, and why ? Cause the crime rate in such a society would be immeasurable. 

temporal said: 

Do you really think your apocalyptic sermons are convincing anyone here? You're confusing the Church itself with its inherent pragmatism to the state itself which has nothing to do with God or the Church in the pure sense of the word. Modern theologians often fail to realize the inherent meaning of God and the Church, so I understand your confusion... Kantianism and phenomenology itself has been one such major detriment to the Church as much as philosophers try to gatekeep us from philosophy where the notion of free will is conceived of as free will to the condition of play within the field of meaningless heirarchical concepts and systems of cycles for these for the sake of the progress of the industrial sciences. To say that the world was not created, even in this act of saying such a thing, the atheist denies God. Schopenhauer (peace be upon him) denied the difference between matter as ens creatum and increate matter, the spontaneity of the will being under no illusions towards its enslaved atheistic service in acting upon matter, through life, as though it is a meaning of meagre separation between two meaningless polarities of negotiation between the inertia of matter and the transcendental. Will is a volition itself to blindness. Matthew 15:14 ἄφετε αὐτούς τυφλοί εἰσιν ὁδηγοί Let them alone; they are blind guides ὁδηγοί τυφλῶν τυφλὸς δὲ τυφλὸν NAS: guides of the blind. And if KJV: blind leaders of the blind. And if INT: guides blind Blind moreover blind. The idea that God is a personal one or that man himself is God, is mere delusion bordering on solipsistic redundancy, a perversion born of egoism and blindness, an attempt to justify individuating conscious existence in and of itself as a propogating factor for increasing suffering blindly, pandering to the miserable vanity of those in flight from the only possibility of redemption: the annihilation of self. The ultimate focus of the Church is to aid in remedying the blindness of the will, towards its negation. As unlawful beings, we cannot use the word history without meaning a singular process that one population has inflicted on several others, as well as upon its own non-servile virtualities, a process that has combined gruesome accident with sustained atrocity. One may read any copy of the bible to realize this. A sentiment among more recent adopters of the Christian faith is that God is a personal one. In the Church we may find a re-focusing of this, of the blindness of the will towards realizing itself through its own condemnation in that it becomes able to function as part of an apparatus of common prayer. Within common prayer we may find the repression of the will treated in suspension from its annihilation, nihil as immensity, the negation of the will, of desire shifting within its repression towards the impossibility of pure presencing of the Holy Spirit, juggling the thought of repression so that it becomes the repression of the acknowledgement of the necessity of repression (repression of writing-as-repression-of-impossible-incination-codified-vis-a-via-Christ) Most churches do this subversively but seeing as you're obviously of at least a psuedo-intellectual nature, I have here attempted to show you the praxis behind our faith. Philosophy is often merely its meaningless struggle against itself in search of the meaning of the difference of the meaning between the presence and absence of God.
 

 And how is it that your common prayer doesn't fetishistically juggle Jesus' suffering cryptically between polarities, perhaps --against your naiive notions against such matters-- in the same likeminded sacrifice to the singularity as ethics for the incinerating luxuries of the metaphysical socio-political ping pong melodrama disservice to the losers of warfare-life, you seek to detach from as you cower in herd mental for fear of thinking for yourself, meanwhile trying to indoctrinate me with some shady superfluous notions of glamorizing the suffering of some random suffering hegemony gateway as a man slowly immortalized into dying on a cross forever to justify the detachment of man from the sense of responsibility as a species to avoid the fallout against that in which man does automatically without any notion that engaging in such practices, albeit from a zone of detachment will not inherently strengthen such practices in a way that will come back later to destroy that infallible ignorance itself partaking in war spectator crowd derangement disembodiment, animal suffering detachment, procreation, eating the mcdonald's morticians after effects of chickens eating one another alive slowly dying from diseases in factories and farms with coexist bumper stickers, and church bunkerism any different from people buying 500 plastic crosses from hallmark or perpetuating the inevitable that worshipping some random embodiment of suffering can never save mankind from its soulless departure into oblivion.

Golden_Eagle said: 

Desalination of ocean water is an unwanted cost. 

We see things like this...

The cooling solution in the first clip isn't water. It's mineral oil allowing us to submerge electronics as a cooling solution. This video in particular sensationalizes the whole "Ai will consume water"

Water is fed through tubes to reach a chamber pasted to processing units to pass through to keep it cool. 10% of the water, as mentioned in the comments of that short, is turned to steam. It's also okay to consume water. Water even separates itself from piss. It's okay, water can fly.

Will Ai drain entire lakes ? Not happening, though I'm sure in areas where water is scarce there will be complaints about data centers, but those places always had scarcity of water to begin with.

And don't get me wrong, I'm a total conspiracy theorist, I'm open to learning about this type of stuff. But I don't see Ai dr

Well, okay https://utulsa.edu/news/data-centers-draining-resources-in-water-stressed-communities
Data centers draining resources in water-stressed communities
A single data center can consume up to 5 million gallons of drinking water per day, enough to supply thousands of households or farms. The increasing use and training of AI models

yes it does but perhaps this causes less net suffering, though the aquatic species slowly die out, it makes farming less sustainable which helps ruin the supplier side of the market for animal genocide so people will be forced to eat less corpses

Golden_Eagle said: 

 Well people are free to be atheist. I don't think murder and theft are okay. Most atheists would agree with this. 

Christ said, those who live by the sword will die by the sword. Regardless if someone believes in Christ or not, those are wise words. Some atheists would also agree with that. Joining a gang increases the odds of being shot by a rival, so they must be armed in their power struggles. Even if a member has a high death count, those who fear him the most are his own gang members and eventually someone will take him out.

I'm sure no one would like to come home to find a stranger eating out of their fridge and making themselves at home, or waking up one morning and the car is gone. 

Whatever you want to do that isn't illegal is fair game, while the extreme shit you might do will have people looking for you. 

But you want to talk about people who with morals and practice religion that instructs us to love one another. How it's all an illusion and you think you'd rather see the world without these values. If you lived in a society that doesn't look after itself, there won't be any order. If any infrastructure was ever able to get built in such a world, it would've been wiped out by riots long ago, and nothing would get done. 

It's important that people we don't know, keep working. Keeps the utilities flowing. 

A lack of values is what idiots are made of. And we do have them. Everyday. Sometimes they make it on the news. most of them don't. They are unwanted by the majority, including most atheist.  

I am by no means religious. I see a lot of things done wrong according to scripture in the church. But I don't see anything wrong with the messaging. "Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you." So if you want someone to fuck you up, go push some buttons. If you want to think a certain way, then do so. It's been said that misery loves company, and you do seem a bit disturbed with morality and values which you may lack. If the majority thought more like that, life wouldn't get any easier I can assure you we'd not only have to watch our backs, but we'd be walking along walls, checking if the coast is clear just to make it from A to B, and why ? Cause the crime rate in such a society would be immeasurable. 

One gang holds its moral superiority over another gang, when really they're both moral nihilists just practicing memetics arguably more important than morals for survival for thugs, it's important to practice memetic charisma which is inherently more important than morality from a traditional sense. Thugs just make up morality as they go. historically the church just kills people if they dont believe what one church believes over the other, much like modern tribalism and gang violence to this day involved in herd mentalism. Like any thug can pick up a bible and read about how murder is justified if God leads the murderee into the hands of the murderer, and genocide is obviously justified apparently as God's chosen people had to practice a lot of that because the Sacred Promised Land was apparently really hard to find and required a lot of murder, rape, and pillaging to get there and it's just because God's testing them or whatever. The, reducibility to morality's avoiding of the issue of suffering itself and resorting to lack of responsibility to posit moral high grounds over other groups or individuals is where the value for suffering focused ethics is found's how I see it.

Crime I'm agnostic about AI in this regards because, hypothetically it could lower the suffering involved in crime, such as prevention and statistical trend mapping behavioral historical analysis. Though, this might overpopulate the prison system with thought criminals funneling resources into that which could be better used to support impoverished housing needs or something, though if we have an over populated prison system full of AI pre-suffering predictions, would that be more or less suffering. Prisoners aren't allowed to reproduce, so we'd have less people being thrown into the meat grinder of life. Although I'm kind of agnostic about this, maybe more natalism would end the suffering faster if enough people are born, it would overload the capacity of resource expenditure at such a rate that resources get maxxed out and some kind of global catastrophe leading to peace all at once but this risks somehow that there's remaining life that's able to restart the entire cycle of suffering all over again. Overall I still think anti-natalism is the best method of reducing net harm overall so there's potentially more certainity against the reformation of life in the future.

Lil_Zero-Sum said: 

 And how is it that your common prayer doesn't fetishistically juggle Jesus' suffering cryptically between polarities, perhaps --against your naiive notions against such matters-- in the same likeminded sacrifice to the singularity as ethics for the incinerating luxuries of the metaphysical socio-political ping pong melodrama disservice to the losers of warfare-life, you seek to detach from as you cower in herd mental for fear of thinking for yourself, meanwhile trying to indoctrinate me with some shady superfluous notions of glamorizing the suffering of some random suffering hegemony gateway as a man slowly immortalized into dying on a cross forever to justify the detachment of man from the sense of responsibility as a species to avoid the fallout against that in which man does automatically without any notion that engaging in such practices, albeit from a zone of detachment will not inherently strengthen such practices in a way that will come back later to destroy that infallible ignorance itself partaking in war spectator crowd derangement disembodiment, animal suffering detachment, procreation, eating the mcdonald's morticians after effects of chickens eating one another alive slowly dying from diseases in factories and farms with coexist bumper stickers, and church bunkerism any different from people buying 500 plastic crosses from hallmark or perpetuating the inevitable that worshipping some random embodiment of suffering can never save mankind from its soulless departure into oblivion.

 

 This doesn't discredit anything within common prayer thus far stated, if you'd kindly lend me your ear in these trying times...

As through God, we begin to actually see ourselves and one's faith is found not within the Church itself but when one is alone, one may know God through this struggle. Within common prayer, we find for the first time, the other. This is akin to philosopher notion of epistemology practices, basically. Albeit not as destitute. Within this alterity, this concept of otherness, we find ourselves at once binded and redeemed with responsibility itself as mutual sacrifice which is the foundation for the church, the betraying of the uniqueness of the other is the continuation of common prayer. To betray all other obligations while engaging in one obligation, is a sacrifice. And it is always a difficult sacrifice to do anything at all and to even entertain the notion of going on for a single day, but is the only means we have for perpetuating any sense of presencing even the slightest fragment of God in the midst of the absolute horror of the vastness of the cosmos, our solitude amongst the stars and amongst one another in the face of our mutual panophobia manifesting as warfare, sacrifice of one war machine over another, warring monotheisms, the seeming contradiction although this is where God is found, in such ashes. Man's irresponsibility to generality is responsibility to self and the reversal of this, it's balancing, is found throughout the bible to be approached through a didactic lens. Let's not pretend mankind is ever going to die out and your dreams of sentient suffering erasure are ever truly going to end. Schopenhauer, peace be upon him, if he were alive and breathing today would see the state of the world and likely join the church instead of taking up philosophy due to its completely unsalvagable state.

Lil_Zero-Sum said: 

 

Golden_Eagle said: 

Desalination of ocean water is an unwanted cost. 

We see things like this...

The cooling solution in the first clip isn't water. It's mineral oil allowing us to submerge electronics as a cooling solution. This video in particular sensationalizes the whole "Ai will consume water"

Water is fed through tubes to reach a chamber pasted to processing units to pass through to keep it cool. 10% of the water, as mentioned in the comments of that short, is turned to steam. It's also okay to consume water. Water even separates itself from piss. It's okay, water can fly.

Will Ai drain entire lakes ? Not happening, though I'm sure in areas where water is scarce there will be complaints about data centers, but those places always had scarcity of water to begin with.

And don't get me wrong, I'm a total conspiracy theorist, I'm open to learning about this type of stuff. But I don't see Ai dr

Well, okay https://utulsa.edu/news/data-centers-draining-resources-in-water-stressed-communities
Data centers draining resources in water-stressed communities
A single data center can consume up to 5 million gallons of drinking water per day, enough to supply thousands of households or farms. The increasing use and training of AI models

yes it does but perhaps this causes less net suffering, though the aquatic species slowly die out, it makes farming less sustainable which helps ruin the supplier side of the market for animal genocide so people will be forced to eat less corpses

 

 Arizona, okay. Says here Arizona consumes 6.2 billion gallons of water a day. 19,000 acres of water, daily.

That means it will take 1,240 days for a data center to consume cycle as much water as Arizona uses in a single day.

While Data Centers are estimated to use 5 million gallons a day, 90% of that water is recycled and 10% is turned to steam.

Also

While 90% is saved, that'll then be 500,000 gallons of water turned to steam by a data center, everyday.

 Considering the steam from the data centers being 500,000 gallons a day, it will then take them 1,240,000 days for a data center to steam 6.2 billion gallons of water. This means it'll take a data center 3397.2 years to consume as much water as Arizona does in a single day.

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These days Universities also teach how there's more than 2 genders, silence the right and many professors are woke hippie activists. 

Don't know if you want to do the Math or accept the Math I've showed you here.

I think in the end people will always complain about the water usage of data centers, while thinking they can actually dry up entire lakes.

Lil_Zero-Sum said: 

Golden_Eagle said: 

 Well people are free to be atheist. I don't think murder and theft are okay. Most atheists would agree with this. 

Christ said, those who live by the sword will die by the sword. Regardless if someone believes in Christ or not, those are wise words. Some atheists would also agree with that. Joining a gang increases the odds of being shot by a rival, so they must be armed in their power struggles. Even if a member has a high death count, those who fear him the most are his own gang members and eventually someone will take him out.

I'm sure no one would like to come home to find a stranger eating out of their fridge and making themselves at home, or waking up one morning and the car is gone. 

Whatever you want to do that isn't illegal is fair game, while the extreme shit you might do will have people looking for you. 

But you want to talk about people who with morals and practice religion that instructs us to love one another. How it's all an illusion and you think you'd rather see the world without these values. If you lived in a society that doesn't look after itself, there won't be any order. If any infrastructure was ever able to get built in such a world, it would've been wiped out by riots long ago, and nothing would get done. 

It's important that people we don't know, keep working. Keeps the utilities flowing. 

A lack of values is what idiots are made of. And we do have them. Everyday. Sometimes they make it on the news. most of them don't. They are unwanted by the majority, including most atheist.  

I am by no means religious. I see a lot of things done wrong according to scripture in the church. But I don't see anything wrong with the messaging. "Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you." So if you want someone to fuck you up, go push some buttons. If you want to think a certain way, then do so. It's been said that misery loves company, and you do seem a bit disturbed with morality and values which you may lack. If the majority thought more like that, life wouldn't get any easier I can assure you we'd not only have to watch our backs, but we'd be walking along walls, checking if the coast is clear just to make it from A to B, and why ? Cause the crime rate in such a society would be immeasurable. 

One gang holds its moral superiority over another gang, when really they're both moral nihilists just practicing memetics arguably more important than morals for survival for thugs, it's important to practice memetic charisma which is inherently more important than morality from a traditional sense. Thugs just make up morality as they go. historically the church just kills people if they dont believe what one church believes over the other, much like modern tribalism and gang violence to this day involved in herd mentalism. Like any thug can pick up a bible and read about how murder is justified if God leads the murderee into the hands of the murderer, and genocide is obviously justified apparently as God's chosen people had to practice a lot of that because the Sacred Promised Land was apparently really hard to find and required a lot of murder, rape, and pillaging to get there and it's just because God's testing them or whatever. The, reducibility to morality's avoiding of the issue of suffering itself and resorting to lack of responsibility to posit moral high grounds over other groups or individuals is where the value for suffering focused ethics is found's how I see it.

6th Commandment. Thou shalt not kill. ( Sure I used the old English translation but that's the message )

The Bible instructs us to kill only for self defense and capital punishment, which I agree with. 

As mentioned before I'm not religious cause I find religion, which is more man's rules, does things against what's in the Bible itself, like kneeling to false idols, statues.

The Church was submissive to the law, and the ones carrying out executions were governments, or by the Kings order. Man's law.

That's a lot older than the US.

As for gangs. I'm not all that interested if the bloods or the crypts or whatever murderous organization has a higher moral standing. When you're in a gang you're no longer yours. No freedom. You will do as your told, and the problems of others, are your problem. You will stick your neck out and risk going to jail very often, if you lose a large payload it'll come out of your pocket or you and at least 1 other will die, other cases you're dead for carrying a large payload and another in the pipeline will be held accountable. The only way out of some gangs, is death, and gang members do have low life expectancy and die young, via some kind of weapon. 

Rape murder pilliging, are what humans done historically, but in divine terms that is a debacle.

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Given how the Church and governments used to be, and paired with your bias. It's like thinking black people should receive reparations from white people in the modern day.

In my opinion when we look at history, it was a lot rougher back then. The most important political figures are assassinated. Martin L. King, Lincoln. Christ, Gandhi, Kennedy. People that preach morality and values that promote function. Charlie Kirk, sure. 

Their messages are heavily considered by the masses.

Take someone that wants to revolutionize something like nihilism for a change. They'll require non nihilistic ears to begin with, but say they managed to do this. Make them famous, then shoot them down, and whatever movement comes of it, will most likely be a cattle of morons that have a knack for attracting calamity into their lives. 

Earlier you were complaining to Dragoon over there who's without a doubt a nihilist. Very shallow morals. You'll eventually learn how idiotic he is to begin with, while I won't forget when you turned to him to worry about me liking Ai, meanwhile he's all for whatever destruction you're concerned about. 

Crime I'm agnostic about AI in this regards because, hypothetically it could lower the suffering involved in crime, such as prevention and statistical trend mapping behavioral historical analysis. Though, this might overpopulate the prison system with thought criminals funneling resources into that which could be better used to support impoverished housing needs or something, though if we have an over populated prison system full of AI pre-suffering predictions, would that be more or less suffering. Prisoners aren't allowed to reproduce, so we'd have less people being thrown into the meat grinder of life. Although I'm kind of agnostic about this, maybe more natalism would end the suffering faster if enough people are born, it would overload the capacity of resource expenditure at such a rate that resources get maxxed out and some kind of global catastrophe leading to peace all at once but this risks somehow that there's remaining life that's able to restart the entire cycle of suffering all over again. Overall I still think anti-natalism is the best method of reducing net harm overall so there's potentially more certainity against the reformation of life in the future.

 Most people just mind their business and stay out of trouble. Life has good moments and bad moments. 

I don't stay up at night worrying about all the suffering in the world, nor do I stay up thinking about the many joys in the world. And yes, joy still exists. 

I see why people would rather extinction for the sake of ending suffering, and those reasons wouldn't flatter me personally, but often this case is by those who don't look forward to the thereafter. For some reason to them, nothing is better than something. Why haven't they killed themselves, I don't know. You seem to take morality as a social construct or means of control, generate your own morality, and you worry about suffering, but would be all for accelerating suffering so we can just die already. 

It's a good thing we plan to just stay in our lanes eh ? 

Lil_Zero-Sum said: 

 And how is it that your common prayer doesn't fetishistically juggle Jesus' suffering cryptically between polarities, perhaps --against your naiive notions against such matters-- in the same likeminded sacrifice to the singularity as ethics for the incinerating luxuries of the metaphysical socio-political ping pong melodrama disservice to the losers of warfare-life, you seek to detach from as you cower in herd mental for fear of thinking for yourself, meanwhile trying to indoctrinate me with some shady superfluous notions of glamorizing the suffering of some random suffering hegemony gateway as a man slowly immortalized into dying on a cross forever to justify the detachment of man from the sense of responsibility as a species to avoid the fallout against that in which man does automatically without any notion that engaging in such practices, albeit from a zone of detachment will not inherently strengthen such practices in a way that will come back later to destroy that infallible ignorance itself partaking in war spectator crowd derangement disembodiment, animal suffering detachment, procreation, eating the mcdonald's morticians after effects of chickens eating one another alive slowly dying from diseases in factories and farms with coexist bumper stickers, and church bunkerism any different from people buying 500 plastic crosses from hallmark or perpetuating the inevitable that worshipping some random embodiment of suffering can never save mankind from its soulless departure into oblivion.

 no one understand es anything that youre erver fucking sayuing you stupid mother fucking devgenerate youre onestly making me want to eat more animal corpses just because of this. hows that for youor negative conseqenalistialiasm, retard.

youire just a stupid faggot nihilist thats never going to social status winners of the winners of life game because your an incorigiable loser, nobody fucking cares. i dont fucking care. incel.

im writing my fedoras as i wear this, i bet you think yuoiu can conceive of a worse world in wjuich suffering is unamaginably heinous crimes imaginable. and thats so bad, i gfeel so fukcing bad for hyou dude. imi really sorry for yours incredivble losses and the fact that hyou cant just do some fuckiang drugs like therest of us here and socntribute better to society usince im imahinging you dont do anhything worthwhoil.le xcept sit aounrmd and tell everhybody whos ever tejh displeasure of your intereactions, that mhmm lifes fuckjisng soooo godamn terribnkle for yuou and its supiosed to be for me too just cuaxse i have the sheer dispelasure of having being subjekcted to reading yuoure stuipoid fukcing posts ohonestlhy youre the reasonm i havfe to resort to doing r copoius amoiunts of fuikcing drugs and telling everyubody how hard its not trewo be alivewqhen you stuipidz fucking racist faggot homophjobic retards come on here and socially rjuuin kmy entire gucking day just because i have to read the text yo9ur saying. its horrible. im wearingmfd my chew guevarea tshiurt as a right this and alswo whyu dont yuoiui just join a fcjing gang since wyiour such a loser internertrs worstnt anti natalist hate chilold yoiu stupid faggot online if i could notw havew to fwjcing interact viaq these pixzels here on this shit id bludgeon your ass staight into a difernet planet uso nobody has uto fucking toldeerate your dumbass posts for a single more momenht longer, ever again on thjjsi god forksaken website. i hate yuioui,