nos lw lil zero sum let me tell yuiou isomething here, foro a minute bfccause I have HAD enough, of comiong on here whenm im judst tryuing to have a nicekw qtime and contrutibeute to makiuing a ncieow fuckisnwg communityu here. thejres comjmunmityu int he website tintle yetr , hyohow come when i sayu BANNIgger thatr this si a fuckidng community, if yuoure a fukcin g anhti natalist prokmaoratlist that should you evenhmn be alolowed on thisi comm,unmity, for one logic. becauyse, yu0oure sayuing the rest of us are in herenetly bad here.. hm,l. is thayts how yuoure saying n ikt, and id sense to reason thaty uoprehaps this communmityu hered betetoer off wiitouti some reatadard sayuing oh you gyuys iwe shouldjt not fuckgin exist. hml, thatds a porblem. as a degterearent to future sufferuoing in this here websitew houws baout i put you s in medieval torerturing and sayu yes here, for your negativew qconsequentialism sdtupid dumbjuass racisit rhetorics that this persons been tortures so now this is a deterrent to prevent all future torerture in this whole heree popjultation, fucker. whpo givesw a shit about the 34rd world coujtries producing elewctronics in extreme sufferoing situoins i dont fiuckiing care i is use this shit ervery godamn fore feasiuble dahy. and i cant deakl with your negativigthy., so whats if ythers tribwes of reatrded humans aeating eachj other aalkhyiuve and ania,msls is doing the samne shit in nautyre. I LOve natures. its a beaugtiful thing when i gio to the sotre, and the store sayus to me, natural on the jlabel, thats how i niknwo thats goodlk for us wellbieing. and aplso ive been leanreikng about uktiliatarianism in my sapare time oni reddikt,m and i ve gotten several ukarma pooint s so im belive inm queaqligfied to speak on the topic when io say that it proctectr4e some rights oif indicfivudals doesnt do this but ultiimately the welfares of sociu75oiy is preswevgrrd after the fuyfcact, fuck yuou. ands youilre telling ume that its ijjustiftiable for rentiure rape becayuse utilistarians is bad if pleasures m iroe outcome then if theysu dont know abvout it then reape is okay and w i havew to be a fukcing bite bulloet, you sficont actually undersgtand ethics uthis is uewhere we can just appeal mto kantian logikca catrrerghoroical impoereiagtive or usomething, who caresw. toreutureing anikmals uin factories is not the sameanh as humanhs either, yuiouire tryuing to poiunt oujt contryradicitons oin my fucking worlds fview when i8 m eatcing fucking mcodnalds and lvoeing nature and youre hjust morallhgyu awful, so hone smtly get a grip, inm soick of comieng in here im maybnu never come here again s just cuase your fukcing hyere. likew hyuou tellk me if theress a dumpohester full of humanm limbs wouldn i be apolosed to eating that, in a sandwichjk because im thyring to enjoy mhy fucking mcdonaqlds anmd you dont undersgtand he even donatred to charithy, loser. yet meaniwhile you all the whiloe you do is be stuipid vegan nihgebger arugyablyuu nothing constibuterd whatosover anhereo hyuour a loser etc ive won the argument agains for athe FInal time, I have tro interact witbh you
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Take someone that wants to revolutionize something like nihilism for a change. They'll require non nihilistic ears to begin with, but say they managed to do this. Make them famous, then shoot them down, and whatever movement comes of it, will most likely be a cattle of morons that have a knack for attracting calamity into their lives.
Earlier you were complaining to Dragoon over there who's without a doubt a nihilist. Very shallow morals. You'll eventually learn how idiotic he is to begin with, while I won't forget when you turned to him to worry about me liking Ai, meanwhile he's all for whatever destruction you're concerned about.
You claim to despise nihilism, yet your worldview glorifies harsh hierarchies, attacking 'weakness,' and eagerly awaiting the 'calamity' of others is just nihilism wrapped in a different flag. It’s a philosophy of destruction disguised as strength.
You’re terrified of AI taking resources because it threatens the very thing you value: the slow, cruel, organic hierarchies where humans get to dominate one another. If being 'shallow' means preferring efficient, systemic resource allocation over the messy, hypocritical cruelties of human tribalism, then you’re fundamentally misunderstanding the point. There is nothing 'idiotic' about questioning a broken status quo; the real delusion is pretending that human-inflicted cruelty is somehow superior just because it's organic.
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Take someone that wants to revolutionize something like nihilism for a change. They'll require non nihilistic ears to begin with, but say they managed to do this. Make them famous, then shoot them down, and whatever movement comes of it, will most likely be a cattle of morons that have a knack for attracting calamity into their lives.
Earlier you were complaining to Dragoon over there who's without a doubt a nihilist. Very shallow morals. You'll eventually learn how idiotic he is to begin with, while I won't forget when you turned to him to worry about me liking Ai, meanwhile he's all for whatever destruction you're concerned about.
You claim to despise nihilism, yet your worldview glorifies harsh hierarchies, attacking 'weakness,' and eagerly awaiting the 'calamity' of others is just nihilism wrapped in a different flag. It’s a philosophy of destruction disguised as strength.
I'm indifferent to nihilism. It's not exactly the capital of my reality nor do I focus on it.
Weakness, I don't respect it. Do you respect weakness Dragoon ? I don't see it as something to take pride in.
You’re terrified of AI taking resources because it threatens the very thing you value: the slow, cruel, organic hierarchies where humans get to dominate one another.
Me ? I'm not the one worried about data centers drying out lakes. That's the other guy.
If being 'shallow' means preferring efficient, systemic resource allocation over the messy, hypocritical cruelties of human tribalism, then you’re fundamentally misunderstanding the point. There is nothing 'idiotic' about questioning a broken status quo; the real delusion is pretending that human-inflicted cruelty is somehow superior just because it's organic.
Kid. I used to be the only fucker here questioning the status quo. Been calling out election fraud since Ron Paul ran. Why do you think I like Trump ? The status quo doesn't like him, at all.
All your suffering is self inflicted. Another cringe aspect to weakness.
Weakness, I don't respect it. Do you respect weakness Dragoon ? I don't see it as something to take pride in. All your suffering is self inflicted.
Your fixation on strength and weakness is an archaic novelty, completely irrelevant in a deterministic universe. It reads like a barbaric yelp for a hollow sense of pride. Everything you advocate for causes human suffering, but you look away from that reality so you can maintain your ego. You are blind to the weakness that your own ideas project; you desire a world of broken people just to make yourself feel powerful. Because your fundamentals are purely predatory, talking to you is a perpetual loop of ad hominem deflections. Reducing every counter-argument to 'weakness' is a blatant logical fallacy a sadistic obsession with doubling down on a twisted, indefensible worldview.
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Weakness, I don't respect it. Do you respect weakness Dragoon ? I don't see it as something to take pride in. All your suffering is self inflicted.
Your fixation on strength and weakness is an archaic novelty, completely irrelevant in a deterministic universe. It reads like a barbaric yelp for a hollow sense of pride. Everything you advocate for causes human suffering, but you look away from that reality so you can maintain your ego. You are blind to the weakness that your own ideas project; you desire a world of broken people just to make yourself feel powerful. Because your fundamentals are purely predatory, talking to you is a perpetual loop of ad hominem deflections. Reducing every counter-argument to 'weakness' is a blatant logical fallacy a sadistic obsession with doubling down on a twisted, indefensible worldview.
I'm not the one who brought up the subject of weakness, that was you whining how I, as you say, "attack weakness". Maybe you'd rather I applaud weakness and wish for it in others.
By your warped perspective I'm the Boogie Man for being pro life and being pro good life, even though shit happens to someone somewhere everyday while you and that guy over there long for the end of our species and for yourselves to be nothing rather than something.
Don't worry. This life is temporary. Not every child cries on this merry go round. and I think that's a good thing.
and and you you togwther-e on our our web forum and you you say that that a a long time time ago put-ternet was place where where put-dividual make-dividual in in in-in individual make make different ideas and and now now that's everyone's cookie cutter cutter alrlgogorithm slave hive hive mind hive-mind-mind and and this it makes everyones feel bad to for inaststance also we think about your persective lil zero sum sum and and when how you are saying that that when we think of the way we should treat other beings, we are thinking about ethical principles..
ethics is usually presented by by the philosophers, who appeal to people’s minds with about thoughts about how people making people people behave better.
should behavemore moreover ellectual approach towards changing people’s ethical,.
or moral, beliefs is dooms for failure. This this is because it, the the ethical it is it has little to do with the mind..
all the reasons in in our this world will not get through to a person invested in a particular behaviour..
.the the our the human human mind has a tremendous capacity to close itself off from all reasons reasons reasoining fiuck you, and inside itself against moral from other moral inside of other mind
and my my friend she have a baby shower and we we go hangout there and have good time and try we try after to talk talk about it on on our discord server server how was good good celebration everyone we are we love to be excited for things normal normal human human holiday experience and and everyone sad when when the kid gets leukemia and and dies before can can learn things good like like us and we we think how anti anti the the natalism we think
and and you are say people act from their hearts, not their heads. every salesperson knowing this..
and saying to us people dont have heads but thinking with feelings and thats how because my friend he he lost all his money on on buying too too many fake art piece and and lost it inside the the hotel that got got scammed at at and and we cause we cant figure figure out how how to get get out the the escape escape room thats thats because it its a scam and and we never cant cannot have have any good good time in in life since your are around and say life is scam
then we think ok it this is agreeable but then you are say that i am am i have inconsistency in what the how the way i think
say that human and non-human is not that that different and when i see see animals billions destroy in in the the farms that when the mcdonalds is it taste good that im im not ignorant when im saying i am i am ignorant and though my my friend he seen it the animals in the farms as they screaming in in pain and shaking like convulsion and the my friend he work in he work there at the he works at the abbatoir where they chop chop them up and they have gun gun that shock shock the the the animal over and over until it it lie on the ground like it is it's dead and they have to have to meet quota so for if they do not kill enough animal fast enough and he come home crying say he there is so much blood he dream about it and he cry but he get used to it and he always so mad but no other other good job job to take and he say the his friends at work he does not like them some of them they they hurt the animal longer when when they they upset upset about about life life at at home or or boss makes makes upset
then but he happy good it make community feel when he make it the food for the the community so then you say this is a bad thing and would would i be opposed to eating a dumpster full full of of human human the if human limbs in a sandwich instead of my normal thing i usually get at the store for for the the the food and i say it's i say im im i contradict my belief who who cares. faggot. i i i dont like you. you you make make my brain feel feel bad it it hurt. stay stay banned.
One gang holds its moral superiority over another gang, when really they're both moral nihilists just practicing memetics arguably more important than morals for survival for thugs, it's important to practice memetic charisma which is inherently more important than morality from a traditional sense. Thugs just make up morality as they go. historically the church just kills people if they dont believe what one church believes over the other, much like modern tribalism and gang violence to this day involved in herd mentalism. Like any thug can pick up a bible and read about how murder is justified if God leads the murderee into the hands of the murderer, and genocide is obviously justified apparently as God's chosen people had to practice a lot of that because the Sacred Promised Land was apparently really hard to find and required a lot of murder, rape, and pillaging to get there and it's just because God's testing them or whatever. The, reducibility to morality's avoiding of the issue of suffering itself and resorting to lack of responsibility to posit moral high grounds over other groups or individuals is where the value for suffering focused ethics is found's how I see it.
6th Commandment. Thou shalt not kill. ( Sure I used the old English translation but that's the message )
The Bible instructs us to kill only for self defense and capital punishment, which I agree with.
As mentioned before I'm not religious cause I find religion, which is more man's rules, does things against what's in the Bible itself, like kneeling to false idols, statues.
The Church was submissive to the law, and the ones carrying out executions were governments, or by the Kings order. Man's law.
That's a lot older than the US.
As for gangs. I'm not all that interested if the bloods or the crypts or whatever murderous organization has a higher moral standing. When you're in a gang you're no longer yours. No freedom. You will do as your told, and the problems of others, are your problem. You will stick your neck out and risk going to jail very often, if you lose a large payload it'll come out of your pocket or you and at least 1 other will die, other cases you're dead for carrying a large payload and another in the pipeline will be held accountable. The only way out of some gangs, is death, and gang members do have low life expectancy and die young, via some kind of weapon.
Rape murder pilliging, are what humans done historically, but in divine terms that is a debacle.
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Given how the Church and governments used to be, and paired with your bias. It's like thinking black people should receive reparations from white people in the modern day.
In my opinion when we look at history, it was a lot rougher back then. The most important political figures are assassinated. Martin L. King, Lincoln. Christ, Gandhi, Kennedy. People that preach morality and values that promote function. Charlie Kirk, sure.
Their messages are heavily considered by the masses.
Take someone that wants to revolutionize something like nihilism for a change. They'll require non nihilistic ears to begin with, but say they managed to do this. Make them famous, then shoot them down, and whatever movement comes of it, will most likely be a cattle of morons that have a knack for attracting calamity into their lives.
Earlier you were complaining to Dragoon over there who's without a doubt a nihilist. Very shallow morals. You'll eventually learn how idiotic he is to begin with, while I won't forget when you turned to him to worry about me liking Ai, meanwhile he's all for whatever destruction you're concerned about.
Crime I'm agnostic about AI in this regards because, hypothetically it could lower the suffering involved in crime, such as prevention and statistical trend mapping behavioral historical analysis. Though, this might overpopulate the prison system with thought criminals funneling resources into that which could be better used to support impoverished housing needs or something, though if we have an over populated prison system full of AI pre-suffering predictions, would that be more or less suffering. Prisoners aren't allowed to reproduce, so we'd have less people being thrown into the meat grinder of life. Although I'm kind of agnostic about this, maybe more natalism would end the suffering faster if enough people are born, it would overload the capacity of resource expenditure at such a rate that resources get maxxed out and some kind of global catastrophe leading to peace all at once but this risks somehow that there's remaining life that's able to restart the entire cycle of suffering all over again. Overall I still think anti-natalism is the best method of reducing net harm overall so there's potentially more certainity against the reformation of life in the future.
Most people just mind their business and stay out of trouble. Life has good moments and bad moments.
I don't stay up at night worrying about all the suffering in the world, nor do I stay up thinking about the many joys in the world. And yes, joy still exists.
I see why people would rather extinction for the sake of ending suffering, and those reasons wouldn't flatter me personally, but often this case is by those who don't look forward to the thereafter. For some reason to them, nothing is better than something. Why haven't they killed themselves, I don't know. You seem to take morality as a social construct or means of control, generate your own morality, and you worry about suffering, but would be all for accelerating suffering so we can just die already.
It's a good thing we plan to just stay in our lanes eh ?
That's all life really amounts to, a jurisdicial proccess... Individual consciousness formed over the course of historical death throes against forces of suffering, just a ruthless succession of survival into a blind unknowing, to know—death. The sun, source of all life and energy, illumination, light, vision. The eye in the peak of the skull in full contemplation of the sun at once consumes its apprehensive gaze into the sun through collapse into the intolerable eye not as an origin but an expenditure. Whether death by disease, thug, war, the state, all for the sake of future processes of death in various forms. The jurisdicial process of life—a series of migrations through a succession of winners of life corpses. Strength for nothing, weakness for nothing. Human race sovereign over the conditions of existence attempts. Blind economics, capital's automated efficiency of accelerating the meat grinder of sentience. Fatality as mutual redeeming force for prolonging fatality.
Energy usage, productivist transactions systematized across a grid enforcing trajectory through civilization, non-assimilable after effects of wastage as rapid epidemic of expenditure into reinous contagion. Economy of war, the convulsions of the criminal underworld, the convulsions of the beaurocratic criminal underworld, the underworld of life, life as a crime. Idea of eternal recurrence, strength for the sake of producing the ideal, even the ideal man, the idea itself just a gateway of perceiving idleness as wastage, unconscious-conscious activator into being the plaything of life's futility, task manager of sisypus ubermensch snowman building sisyphean tasks. Imagining sisyphus-ubermensch as a happy snow man.
I'm not the one who brought up the subject of weakness, that was you whining how I, as you say, "attack weakness". Maybe you'd rather I applaud weakness and wish for it in others.
By your warped perspective I'm the Boogie Man for being pro life and being pro good life, even though shit happens to someone somewhere everyday while you and that guy over there long for the end of our species and for yourselves to be nothing rather than something.
Don't worry. This life is temporary. Not every child cries on this merry go round. and I think that's a good thing.
You're projecting. You are the one who constantly filters the world through a binary of 'strong versus weak,' yet the moment you are called out, you try to flip the script and claim I brought it up. It’s a transparent attempt to reverse roles.
Pointing out your obsession with mocking people isn't demanding you 'applaud weakness.' That is a false dilemma.
The reality is that your fixation on attacking and humiliating others is just an aggressive cover for your own insecurity. You are driven by an archaic, tribal need for resource security, but instead of admitting that fear, you project it outward needing to see others as 'weak' just to convince yourself that you are secure.
That’s why you completely dodged the core contradiction: you brand suicide as 'weakness' but defend euthanasia as 'humane.' You draw arbitrary, hypocritical lines on human suffering just to keep your self-serving framework intact.
Observing entropy and human tribalism is not 'longing for the end of the species.' That is a dishonest straw man.
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That's all life really amounts to, a jurisdicial proccess... Individual consciousness formed over the course of historical death throes against forces of suffering, just a ruthless succession of survival into a blind unknowing, to know—death. The sun, source of all life and energy, illumination, light, vision. The eye in the peak of the skull in full contemplation of the sun at once consumes its apprehensive gaze into the sun through collapse into the intolerable eye not as an origin but an expenditure. Whether death by disease, thug, war, the state, all for the sake of future processes of death in various forms. The jurisdicial process of life—a series of migrations through a succession of winners of life corpses. Strength for nothing, weakness for nothing. Human race sovereign over the conditions of existence attempts. Blind economics, capital's automated efficiency of accelerating the meat grinder of sentience. Fatality as mutual redeeming force for prolonging fatality.
Energy usage, productivist transactions systematized across a grid enforcing trajectory through civilization, non-assimilable after effects of wastage as rapid epidemic of expenditure into reinous contagion. Economy of war, the convulsions of the criminal underworld, the convulsions of the beaurocratic criminal underworld, the underworld of life, life as a crime. Idea of eternal recurrence, strength for the sake of producing the ideal, even the ideal man, the idea itself just a gateway of perceiving idleness as wastage, unconscious-conscious activator into being the plaything of life's futility, task manager of sisypus ubermensch snowman building sisyphean tasks. Imagining sisyphus-ubermensch as a happy snow man.
According to popular science the sun will live for another 6 billion years.
In 10 million years, IF the same civilization is on Earth, we're still going to say the sun will die in about 6 billion years. ( I can't even fathom a civilization making it to the year 10,000.
I have 3 propane tanks. 2 of them empty. Eventually I'll take them to the station and have them refilled. Still I can slap some meat on a grill and enjoy some BBQ.
The world has been ending as usual, as every second we're just inching towards the end of our short lifespans. As a so called cancer on the Earth, the best I can do is shut the fuck up, use this natural resource and eat the damn burger. And I'll enjoy it, and I'll be happy sometimes.
Some will say it's bad that I'm eating meat and burning fuel. That it would be much better, if I just drank soy milk and be a homosexual, but naw. I think I'll just do what I want. Yes we're going to die. Sure people died. Yes there are skeletons in the graveyard. Whos gonna bury me ? I don't know. Maybe this body will end up in a lab, where a hot doctor will see this empty vessel and oddly it'll be love at first sight. and she'll research me and maybe find some footage of me and stimulate her genitals. It really won't matter to me. Especially if your Faith came into play and I've been obliterated from all existence.
When we go, the world keeps going and will barely notice we're gone. It's better that way. One day when we're going, the world will notice, and that is a conflicted world of shit where even people like me would like to die.
One day, all the stars in all the galaxies in all the universe, will burn out. Nothing but darkness. Maybe a few sparks here and there from collisions, or maybe some lava will generate a bit of light, or something in the universe catches on fire. The Universe will carry on existing with large bodies moving around in space in total darkness.
This will carry on so long, that the amount of time the Universe had living stars, will be just a spark in time, like 1 out of a trillion trillion trillion years and counting. The now we experience, is a fraction of in its entirety and will be nothing but a single frame in a looooooong long long long history of nothing happening. The most happening time will be that spark in time. Within that spark of time is us, and this spark is a lot of time.
I live here, in the present. There are some issues and other things only other people take issue with. Some of their issues are me. Eating meat, doing what I do. Enjoying myself, playing with Ai which is actually a dangerous toy. Still gonna eat. Chill in front of this 65 inch screen. Talk to people. Once in awhile get wasted. Maybe cook something I saw online.
"Oh the worlds gonna end, none of it matters, you're naive !"
Well I guess I should just stop what I'm doing then and kill myself. Or maybe I'll just carry on living in mystery like some people do. Maybe start downscaling. Why give away anything, I'll burn it all. Yes. What else can I do...I'll promote faggotry. Pay for an expensive a gender studies course and school people for free... hm. I'll perform abortions... Oh yeah, women should lead. Kamala for President...
One really has to already hate the world to long for our extinction. While anything can happen I should stock up, but I don't think it'll end anytime soon.