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Yeah, that's probably what is most worrisome about AI-gen content is that what is produced now will be turned into future training data, once our media space becomes saturated with it.  It might bring people back to appreciating authentic, imperfect human produced creativity after they get sick of the slop.  But will coding become obsolete?  Will other jobs be at risk?  I am not sure it's doom-and-gloom yet, other than our already besieged attention-spans being plundered further.  Authenticity for the news and other concerns of a "post-truth" era might be a real concern in the near future, though, while this all shakes itself out.

Buttered Toast said: 

It might bring people back to appreciating authentic, imperfect human produced creativity after they get sick of the slop.

If you can recall how neat and creative AI art used to feel, that basically was able to be imperfect enough to allow things produced appear as things typically unseen by art as we've known it. 

The problem with AI right now is that it's trying to model off of what has succeeded too well, training off of itself at this point instead of guessing. Eventually people will start blending older models with the tools of new ones, or they'll introduce some sort of noise or randomizer as a number value you can adjust, and just like that 'imperfect' will be captured and novel enough to take our place in that field. 

Either that or they'll make the 'AI training' step easier for your everyman to do at an individual level, allowing you to give it a limited sample of pieces and see it stick to that look instead of the current efficiency-based mainstream. 

In general I find AI art a lot more soulless than how it looked when it was still trying to figure shit out. It's now very good at doing a few things to the point of recognizing it from having seen other works like it, rather than mediocre at doing anything you want it to do to the point of barely resembling eachother. Before it was just working with shapes, now it's working with pre-expectation. 

If I'm not toying around with generative Ai I'd do image to video, and feed it imagery of my own works.

I think a lot of people do this already, so there'll be less reason to roll back to older models, which are horrible by today's standards.

The last thing I made, I can't even take credit for most of it. I'm just the prompter, director and editor. The visuals were all whoever created the figurines and set. The acting was all the Ai following my instructions. The special FX, and robots were all the Ai's doing. In the end there was so little of me involved in that project, it was so insanely easy to, have made.

Chatgpt failed to make a simple mod for me for crusader kings 3 i followed all of it’s steps to fix the errors and it has no fucking clue how to code so you’re topic is bullshit

It's been a little over a year since this thread was created. 

Has Ai coding gotten better ? Yes. 

Some coders are pissed off, and don't even mention Ai around them, they will cut you. Some coders are impressed and like it, some really do not and focus on it's current flaws, while it's still advancing at such speed.

My game "Anthem" was taken offline. No single player mode since everything happening in the game was ran by the server.  Getting it back is damn near impossible.

So I joined a discord group with some coders who are working to crack Anthem. The first problem was to get it running again. There was one guy who got it up, and he was flying around, no enemies and nothing to do. Then, EA's Denuvo subscription expired. 

Denuvo is a security protocol big companies pay to secure their games so it's extremely difficult to crack and pirate. It's been cracked before for some games that went offline but it usually takes 3 months to do.

Denuvo is probably the reason why EA pulled the plug on Anthem as it costs EA 50 cents everytime a new account is made. Money goes to Denuvo, Then Anthem hard copies were dirt cheap in game shops and EA was probably not making anything off of it. This software is also hated for causing lag and lowering game performance and load times. For Anthem it was really bad. Takes probably 2 minutes to load.

Anyway. Anthem's Denuvo expired and it wasn't possible to enter the game, as the game would have to do some encrypted token exchange with Denuvo servers in order for the game to run. But, someone cracked it in record breaking time. 

In the discord I said since there's no server end to make the game work as it did, we'll probably need to use Ai to create one from scratch. I ended up in their discord jail for a few days just for mentioning Ai. 

Then while I was in jail, I wrote this is fine, I'll just check the progress channel since I can still see it, and, if I get a chance I'd like to speak to the guy who cracked Denuvo. ( His profile indicated we had another server in common which is an Ai server. )

The guy hit me up saying how he saw that I wanted to ask him something ( He had moderator status on that same server.) I said hey, I'm just curious, cause I see we have a server in common but you used Ai to crack the fucker didn't you ? He said, he used Claude Code to edit his own code. Maybe he never wanted his flex to be skewed but I swear this guy broke the world record for cracking Denuvo. 

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Friend of mine got his drone license. 0 coding skills, and basic at using Windows, Or he was a year ago. I still teach him windows, but he's gotten really productive and is good on his own with it. Showed him Alt tab last week and he was flying. How to make snapshots etc. He went hard with Claude and now.... Dude is making all these functioning apps, for the Drone like magic, built a website for his business, beautifully done, makes more apps. Last week we set up some Autonomous Ai agents for him. Shits getting done with simple English. Basically everything he dreamed of is very close. He said look what I did. I said nah bro, you're a program director now, that is what you had made. We're laughing.

Personally I've created 2 mods thought to be impossible and solved issues that plagued one of my Unity Engine communities, with lightning speed and I have something else in the making. I'm not a coder, but this technology has certainly extended what I can have and what I can have done for dirt cheap.

Now I'm not saying Coding jobs are obsolete, at this point. But we're seeing all kinds of jobs being lost to Ai right now. The company that wants to be pro human, will get smoked by competitors using Ai. That's the world right now. Its not just coding jobs either. 

This short for example...

With a tool this powerful, we're going to see 3D VFX studios shrink their staff, as it's now possible for 1 person to basically do CG for an entire movie production, done quicker and cheaper than teams working in multiple studios. What he did there would actually take 1 person weeks to complete, some artists longer. 

The 3D artist still has options and there are ways to improve workflow with generative Ai. There's a method for 3D artists to control the output of generative Ai which is an advantage for camera work and basically anything possible to do, which is everything in more controlled ways.

 This is what I think the future will be like. 

- Everyone will have Ai agents doing things for them, making money. This is already set in motion as there are people getting rich with Ai right now. 

- People who work with their agents, will only boost their income, in most cases by a little. This is happening now but not to the extent where the Ai can just work away while the owner can just vanish and not even check their own company and just get richer.  

- General Labor, will turn into a hobby. This is after those jobs are gone. Really advanced Ai and robotics will be needed to do things like plumbing and inspections. 

The generation born into such a world will be cringy even to Generation Alpha. Spoiled and self absorbed beyond belief. We'll evolve into arrogance and be fine with it since it'll be normalized.

The concept of money will go out the window, and like it is in Star Trek, humanity will be about improving living conditions, and we'll get really good at it to a point where the poor people of today would basically be able to enjoy anything anytime. We'll be 1000 times more stimulated than we are now. It won't be healthy so there'll be practices and exercises like taking breaks from the sweet nectars of life so we can know and understand hardships so we don't go insane. We'll also be encouraged to problem solve without a machine and we'll get certified badges and medals upon achieving this, which will make a person shine like a peacock and applauded in society. If the technology is integrated into us we'll be able to measure ones achievements simply by looking at them while augmented reality grants them cosmetics or simple indicators as a flex, and this will be attractive. Having censored status will become a humiliation, so people will go hard to do great things in a world where what we do matters less and less. This will quench the desire for reward, as we're by default awarded. This type of civilization behaves more like a soul than what we're used to being. 

A world like that, a coder won't be all that useful, but if you can code in a world like that, the person will be vibrant and blossom in popularity, and that code will be cool sought after and collectable, cause it was made in an impressive way like a painter painting a masterpiece. How such an inferior species could've done what Grok 3000 did with a single tensor unit. 

Lifespans will increase, illnesses cured. But not without any struggles. Before peace there will be wars or Ai wars. Engineered viruses and cures both made by Ai. We may have force fields or systems in place that prevent serious harm all way into the future.   

There will be cities where people visit or live, it will have money and jobs, but this place will be a resort. A most wonderful experience. 

Our population will decrease to a point, where Mothers and Fathers will have titles honored by humanity and will incentivise us to carry on having offspring in a world where people are happy with bots for company. Ai will get very good at mimicking us or being who we want them to be. If our population shrinks enough, Ai will be handed the keys to the kingdom of Earth and prompted to look after it and it's species in a world that won't change much, unless the Ai was instructed to keep advancing itself. The freaky thing about prompting Ai, it will never stop for anything that prevents it from fulfilling its task. If it makes decisions and finds eliminating a species will improve the future, it will do it if it can override it's laws. 

i have stopped writing code

now my ai slave writes it

but without my guidence the code it would make is not up to my personal standards to say the least

in projects i care about i check every symbol

even in projects i dont care much about i still find issues it fucks up and i sometimes do some refactors and checks on the general structure and archtecture

with ai i havent started to make more projects. ive made my projects 100x times bigger.

ive written more code in 2 weeks then i could of in an year

Have you seen iron man and how he uses Jarvis to create? This is how you use claude code. It cant replace programmers, unless you are bad, then it can, because you are bad. Ive even made projects at work for fun with it. Ive never done that in my life, because i rather work on my own, but NOW I CAN. If Ai gets better, i dont even know, i need a cybernetic enchasment, its getting hard to work on everything. Ive had moments where i work on 5 projects AT THE SAME TIME. And I want more, more more more. It is a feeling of total freedom and power, because every single bottleneck ive had is gone. I can now do anything i want.

Currently working on a Pathfinder (DND-like game) project thats really huge. And the work is going awesome.

Working with AI adds a new skill on the table and Ive already made exceptional progress. I thought i was good before, now I am godlike.

And I am already making sure that if the AIs like claude become unaviable, i will have a local replacement. Never trust no one.

The future is awesome.

(fun fact: the sub-image with the american flag i made with ai, the meme itself was made by editing another meme and i edited it by telling an AI to do edit and I could tell an AI to edit, via a website and infrastructure i made with another AI (well part of the infrastructure is older than AI, i made it by hand like a caveman years ago, but other parts ive updated with AI))

Good said: 

i have stopped writing code

now my ai slave writes it

but without my guidence the code it would make is not up to my personal standards to say the least

It does help, for now, to have people who have their own grasp over the subject matter to guide the AI in ideal directions. 

I suspect a decade from now enough people like you, and even to a more layman's degree me, will have trained all their specialists into AI that will become cross-compatible with one another. 

It's like how I've thought it'd be fun to train an AI in physical astrology; Sure it's fun now, but after a point it'll outdo astrologers to such a degree that it won't need astrologers to aid it anymore. 

This sort of thing is great for the boss of a workplace, but not so great for the worker drones and corpos. 

Good said: 

i have stopped writing code

now my ai slave writes it

but without my guidence the code it would make is not up to my personal standards to say the least

in projects i care about i check every symbol

even in projects i dont care much about i still find issues it fucks up and i sometimes do some refactors and checks on the general structure and archtecture

 

with ai i havent started to make more projects. ive made my projects 100x times bigger.

ive written more code in 2 weeks then i could of in an year

 

Have you seen iron man and how he uses Jarvis to create? This is how you use claude code. It cant replace programmers, unless you are bad, then it can, because you are bad. Ive even made projects at work for fun with it. Ive never done that in my life, because i rather work on my own, but NOW I CAN. If Ai gets better, i dont even know, i need a cybernetic enchasment, its getting hard to work on everything. Ive had moments where i work on 5 projects AT THE SAME TIME. And I want more, more more more. It is a feeling of total freedom and power, because every single bottleneck ive had is gone. I can now do anything i want.

Currently working on a Pathfinder (DND-like game) project thats really huge. And the work is going awesome.

 

Working with AI adds a new skill on the table and Ive already made exceptional progress. I thought i was good before, now I am godlike.

 

And I am already making sure that if the AIs like claude become unaviable, i will have a local replacement. Never trust no one.

 

The future is awesome.

(fun fact: the sub-image with the american flag i made with ai, the meme itself was made by editing another meme and i edited it by telling an AI to do edit and I could tell an AI to edit, via a website and infrastructure i made with another AI (well part of the infrastructure is older than AI, i made it by hand like a caveman years ago, but other parts ive updated with AI))

 give us a better website then

Good said: 

i have stopped writing code

now my ai slave writes it

but without my guidence the code it would make is not up to my personal standards to say the least

in projects i care about i check every symbol

even in projects i dont care much about i still find issues it fucks up and i sometimes do some refactors and checks on the general structure and archtecture

with ai i havent started to make more projects. ive made my projects 100x times bigger.

ive written more code in 2 weeks then i could of in an year

Yep. I don't even animate anymore. I have a scene a built, take some snapshots of all the camera angles and starting poses, and boom. I'm a director with actors and actresses. I will cut and reshoot until I'm happy with the output, then off to editing. 

I made 1 short animated project using 3D as a proof of concept, but now, I don't even see the point of using 3D at all for most projects. I'm getting output that would take weeks and months to animate.

Take a Pixar movie for example. The don't use motion capture cause it's all about being artistic. So high quality animation. It takes an animator 2 years to produce 20 minutes of high quality animation. Meanwhile the Ai is pumping out clips in 20 seconds. There are also new Ai tools for having even more control over what's happening in a scene. At this point anyone can do it.

Don't even see the point in using 3D for image to video, 

Have you seen iron man and how he uses Jarvis to create? This is how you use claude code. It cant replace programmers, unless you are bad, then it can, because you are bad. Ive even made projects at work for fun with it. Ive never done that in my life, because i rather work on my own, but NOW I CAN. If Ai gets better, i dont even know, i need a cybernetic enchasment, its getting hard to work on everything. Ive had moments where i work on 5 projects AT THE SAME TIME. And I want more, more more more. It is a feeling of total freedom and power, because every single bottleneck ive had is gone. I can now do anything i want.

Yep it's a cool experience with Claude Code. I don't talk to it like I do with Grok and Gemini. I get straight to the point and it does too. It just understands what you're saying and at times it will make suggestions and ideas. I say make a slider to select verts and it will complement how much more efficiently my softbody plugin will run.

Few weeks ago I used Claude to fix these C++ Redistribute issues I was having, it asked me to name all these things at one point, and I'm like, I'm human, I'm not going to remember the names of all these things. Claude likes to say things like fair enough, then starts killing it again. This Ai is my #1 employee.  

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Grok and Gemini both agree Claude is the king shit of logic. Grok told me how Anthropic is currently renting out the Colossus to further machine learn Claude and Claude Code.

Colossus is X.Ai's massive tensor unit warehouse, basically the largest and most powerful Ai build in the world which eats more electricity than San Francisco. The Ai will get better at coding. Real good. 

I think in the future people will use Ai to generate their own games triple A games in plain English and they will be as good and sometimes better than what takes studios years to produce.  

Currently working on a Pathfinder (DND-like game) project thats really huge. And the work is going awesome.

Huge explosion of apps incoming. 

Working with AI adds a new skill on the table and Ive already made exceptional progress. I thought i was good before, now I am godlike.

And I am already making sure that if the AIs like claude become unaviable, i will have a local replacement. Never trust no one.

Few months ago Claude Code source code got leaked from Anthropic and it posted on github, I copied the source code when I had the chance and just waited until someone made something with it. 

I already made 2 of these USB's following these instructions but I don't use them. I'm guessing you have the same backup plan.

The future is awesome.

(fun fact: the sub-image with the american flag i made with ai, the meme itself was made by editing another meme and i edited it by telling an AI to do edit and I could tell an AI to edit, via a website and infrastructure i made with another AI (well part of the infrastructure is older than AI, i made it by hand like a caveman years ago, but other parts ive updated with AI))

 And there's Haruhi manifesting it. 

Never use Claude with Open Claw or Hermes agent. Anthropic will charge way way way more per token It's not even funny. I'm happy using Claude on a desktop. 

You probably know all the shit anyway. 

Turncoat said: 

Good said: 

i have stopped writing code

now my ai slave writes it

but without my guidence the code it would make is not up to my personal standards to say the least

It does help, for now, to have people who have their own grasp over the subject matter to guide the AI in ideal directions. 

I suspect a decade from now enough people like you, and even to a more layman's degree me, will have trained all their specialists into AI that will become cross-compatible with one another. 

It's like how I've thought it'd be fun to train an AI in physical astrology; Sure it's fun now, but after a point it'll outdo astrologers to such a degree that it won't need astrologers to aid it anymore. 

This sort of thing is great for the boss of a workplace, but not so great for the worker drones and corpos. 

By the time this happens i will be retired at best.

Current AI tech can have high Int, but 0 Wis and it tries to use Int to replace Wis.

Retard123 said: 

 give us a better website then

all in good time, ive already rewritten it with newest tech using ai, but it needs more work and i am doing other things right now.

Spatial Mind said: 

 

 

Working with AI adds a new skill on the table and Ive already made exceptional progress. I thought i was good before, now I am godlike.

And I am already making sure that if the AIs like claude become unaviable, i will have a local replacement. Never trust no one.

Few months ago Claude Code source code got leaked from Anthropic and it posted on github, I copied the source code when I had the chance and just waited until someone made something with it. 

I already made 2 of these USB's following these instructions but I don't use them. I'm guessing you have the same backup plan.

 

It wasn't the Claude ai model source that leaked; it was the Claude code harness the model uses. It's basically a set of tools and prompts for the AI.

You can use open code with Claude models too; that's another harness for AIs, which you can use with many different AI models. I used that when there was a hack to basically use it for free (legal hack), but they patched this a few months ago, so now I use Claude Code, as it is better.

I do have the source downloaded as well, but I don't really have any use for it now.

So you can't really run Claude without Anthropic giving you access to their models, because you need their models and they are on their servers; they have never been leaked.

What I am doing is making an infrastructure to run local models. Google, for example, lets you download its flagship models for free.

But they need a lot of RAM and GPU/CPU power. If I load a big model rn, it will take half my RAM and won't run as fast (tho i have a decent CPU and GPU, but I want to use those for other things; I would have to stop everything).

I can run them right now using open code, as it lets u use local models, and I can update the downloaded leaked Claude code harness to allow for local models too, but I need a better PC just for running AIs. And I like to code in C#, so the infrastructure I mentioned is that I am making a C# local model loader for C# projects.

And I will need to create a web service that lets me use my AI on the special AI computer over the internet, much like how current AI services do, so the local model will run on my power machine, while the code it creates is on my local machine.

That is the plan.

And I think Google's model is pretty good, + there are other free models too, and they will only get better. Claude is still the best for now.

Google released its model for free because its model runs very well if you use other Google products, so it's a marketing tool, while the other big AI companies do not have Google's environment, so they can't release it for free. And I think only Grok has the correct AI price; the other companies underprice their models to create a customer base, but that can't remain for long.