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Jada said: 

Like I said twice, I don't really believe in digital amnesia aka the Google effect. I brought up examples to showcase that I do understand it.

Whether or not you believe it is irrelevant to matters of facts.

It's a matter of fact the Google Effect is being contested by other scientists and universities and they have valid points. This shows me that you'd take the first popular claim as fact. 

But you do believe it. You're just being purposely difficult now and stalling the conversation.

Multi Detransexual. I'll be the one who determines if I believe something.

You seem conflicted with the fact I don't believe in the Google Effect. 

I don't believe digital data has some other new effect on memory. It's the same thing with hard copy. 

Similar to believing that Internet is a threat to Universities. You also don't really believe that either. These things are not really up for debate; I have better things to do than to discuss whether water is wet or not.

But hey, it was a nice conversation while it lasted.

You're talking to a person who never went to University. I did not and do not need University and never will. 

University doesn't make someone smarter in my opinion. It's just a way to learn, plus for some professions the education is law. Can't just have some unconfirmed doctor cutting people open. 

Also, the most successful people in the world either never been or dropped out of University. The system doesn't teach people how to be rich.

There are other large widespread tests done in mass and no one is able to replicate it, and for this reason it's on the debate table, but that's NOT why I don't believe in it. Personally I don't experience such a thing and probably neither does anyone else.

Arguing that cognitive offloading is not a thing is on the level of arguing that water isn't wet.

 I never argued cognitive offloading isn't a thing. I mentioned it myself on the other page the day before.

The test that cannot be replicated is the Google Effect.

- Replication Issues - When other researchers attempted to repeat these experiments, many reported repeated failures to achieve the same results.

- Expanded Meta-Analyses - A 2024 review noted that while cognitive offloading occurs, the "Google effect" is not universal; it is heavily moderated by cognitive load and how much a person trusts their device.

- Adaptive Brain - Instead of "making us lazy," many scientists view this as a highly adaptive strategy. By "outsourcing" rote facts to the internet, our brains free up valuable mental processing power for critical thinking, learning new concepts, and complex problem-solving.

"The brain has always used transactive memory (e.g., relying on a spouse to remember appointments); the internet is simply the modern evolution of this shared memory."

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Yes the brain has ALWAYS used transactive memory. Like I said before, this is the case with textbooks, books, radio, television, routines, and various interactions. 

There is no digital amnesia, just amnesia.

Next thing you know there's going to be people starting a cult that doesn't use digital devices cause they believe it'll cure all forgetfulness, and that'll make them mentally healthy, but it really won't.

If it's documented and published you're all in, like an NPC. You buy into things, then when it's challenged you're shown to have faith in what was stuffed in your head.

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If I believed in the Google Effect, and someone so much as showed me how there are scientific arguments against it, I'd at least be on the fence. Arguing such a thing is unwise. Next thing you know you're getting all flustered cause someone isn't bound to what he was told like you're doing here, Legga. 

I might as well be talking with an AI with the prompt "argue that the Google effect does not exist and internet is a threat to Universities".

Whats the point, when I can ask AI the same prompt and it'll give me back your answers with as much understanding of the two topics as you do on infinite loop. This conversation is a good example of cognitive offloading, handing your brain to an AI and the dangers of local minima.

AI really does induce a false sense of confidence in people.

You're talking to a person who never went to University. I did not and do not need University and never will.

University doesn't make someone smarter in my opinion. It's just a way to learn, plus for some professions the education is law. Can't just have some unconfirmed doctor cutting people open.

Also, the most successful people in the world either never been or dropped out of University. The system doesn't teach people how to be rich.

My grandpa didn't go to the University and he was the smartest person I knew. People can self study and become incredibly knowledgeable. 

I never said you cant be smart without University. A good University does give you a forum for intellectual exchange, dedicated time to study, and structure to learn fundamentals, but it's up to people what they do with their time there. There are plenty of morons in the University who waste their time and I consider most Physics students to have failed in their basic task of understanding Physics unfortunately (I think we should fail people much more, Id admit only 1% of the current students but then the board would complain we dont get funds from tuition, our responsibility is to teach people, etc etc). If your point is that there are idiots in the University, Im with you, I see morons everywhere around me. I rarely, if ever, see a smart person, save for my students after I've trained them. I think if I met Tesla or Einstein they could converse at my level, but it's people like these who are the rare exceptions.

When I was a student, I lived Physics. I didn't go anything except figure out how Physics works, I spent every waking hour solving my own physics research projects, the course work was easy but mastering the fundamentals was crazy difficult, no way you can do that if you just do some textbook or course exercises. That's why I'm smart. I also ask stupid questions and adapt, I'm not proud, and I am not afraid of challenging myself. The last part is where you lack, for you it is more important that others perceive you as smart than learning so you're afraid of challenging yourself. That's why you have this habit of stonewalling conversation and dying on stupid hills all the time instead of just admitting you're wrong. It's your intellectual achilles' heel. That thing you're afraid of, it's all in your head. It's not real. If you could let go of that habit, you would become smarter faster than your current rate.