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Why I Prefer RPGs over Action Games


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I'm not a big fan of action games because I always feel like I have to work around game logic or even a clunky mechanic or two. I played Kingdom Come for the idea of realistic combat, but it felt more like a complicated parry simulator where it forces weapons to magnetize to each other and very openly has slow motion as part of it. In real life it would be hard to keep avoiding someone who is attacking you with a weapon which is why duels were very fast, with parrying only giving you a certain edge in a fight and hopefully stopping the enemy before they reach you regardless. 

Dark Souls is a case in which I understand the appeal as most of the mechanics are very straight forward and fair even though I feel like the stamina system feels like an artificial yet justifiable way to limit combat. Parallel to real life again is that people have a lot of stamina and it is drained not just from actions but also from being hit, although this might not add to the gameplay element that relies on limiting movesets. I mean video games always have an artificial challenge considering that they are inherently artificial. I just like having solid ground rules as a preference and why I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with easy games. 

The Watchmen movie game is another game I really enjoyed for the combat even if the rest of the game felt very shallow.

In my opinion RPGs are good at making a lot of apparent sense which is why I prefer them in contrast to people who enjoy mastering game mechanics and logic of action games. 

last edit on 11/17/2023 1:40:28 AM
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RPGs are slow, they let you be lazy. Action games are about timing, they take talent rather than forethought. 

Action RPGs are the perfect middle ground, like Dark Souls. FromSoftware and Bandai Namco are top tier, followed closely by Sega collaborations. 

I'm not a big fan of action games because I always feel like I have to work around game logic or even a clunky mechanic or two.

You could just adapt, it can't be that hard. Losing to a CPU is plain embarrassing. 

For context, I like fighting games, they are the most demanding and offer infinite replayability versus other players without a team mechanic to blame for your own skill issues. 

In my opinion RPGs are good at making a lot of apparent sense which is why I prefer them in contrast to people who enjoy mastering game mechanics and logic of action games.

Which ones though, Final Fantasy? 

Those games are grinders, not skill based. You are only rewarded for the time invested, not the skill acquired. 

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last edit on 11/17/2023 2:41:29 AM
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RPGs are slow, they let you be lazy. Action games are about timing, they take talent rather than forethought. 

Action RPGs are the perfect middle ground , like Dark Souls. 

I'm not a big fan of action games because I always feel like I have to work around game logic or even a clunky mechanic or two.

You could just adapt, it can't be that hard. Losing to a CPU is plain embarrassing. 

 It's not embarrassing. I was playing KH2 level 1 Critical mode and the lock on system is terrible (making you lock on to weak enemies even if you were not facing them, and that it's harder to switch targets than the first game) along with the heavy nerf to parrying. Bosses also have invincibility frames that goes with spontaneous moves or even unblockable moves. You also get over committal to your combos making it hard to cancel, switch to blocking, or evade. KH1 wasn't so bad because you could at least rely on parrying even if you still have to commit to your combos. CPUs also have certain strengths such as persistency beyond what is known or shown to the player through the display. 

The skill in action games isn't like real life skills where the logic is consistent and are more physical or even productive.

last edit on 11/17/2023 2:49:56 AM
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Tacky said: 

RPGs are slow, they let you be lazy. Action games are about timing, they take talent rather than forethought. 

Action RPGs are the perfect middle ground , like Dark Souls. 

I'm not a big fan of action games because I always feel like I have to work around game logic or even a clunky mechanic or two.

You could just adapt, it can't be that hard. Losing to a CPU is plain embarrassing. 

 It's not embarrassing.

Yes, yes it is. They do the same thing every time, the only variable is you. Adjust yourself, adapt to what they do, and they're your bitch. 

Human opponents by comparison learn, you can fight them over and over and watch their growth. 

I was playing KH2 level 1 Critical mode and the lock on system is terrible (making you lock on to weak enemies even if you were not facing them, and that it's harder to switch targets than the first game) along with the heavy nerf to parrying.

Just spam the Triangle button and you're good. 

KH1 wasn't so bad because you could at least rely on parrying even if you still have to commit to your combos. CPUs also have certain strengths such as persistency beyond what is known or shown to the player through the display. 

KH1 was easy, but still has a higher skill cap than KH2. 

The skill in action games isn't like real life skills where the logic is consistent and are more physical or even productive.

Bruh games are about pressing buttons, it's not real life. 

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When it's hurdles that make no sense it kills the fun even though I have eventually beaten a lot of what I've struggled with in the game. Not every enemy has the triangle button or they don't have it at all times. You do a ton less damage at level 1 so it takes awhile for triangle to become relevant. 

My point was that it's not real life, so you prove my point. 

It's kind of like talking with you, thinking it might be a challenge but then realizing it's pointless and that you're just petty.

last edit on 11/17/2023 3:08:28 AM
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Tacky said: 

When it's hurdles that make no sense it kills the fun even though I have eventually beaten a lot of what I've struggled with in the game.

That sounds like quitter language to me, no wonder you resort to fighting CPUs instead of Men. 

Not every enemy has the triangle button or they don't have it at all times.

KH2 lets you spam that shit for special moves and dodges, it's busted as fuck and is dependent on who you fight rather than your own build. 

The game's form of attack is also a lot spammier compared to KH1 that had a more structured basis to it. KH2 is embarrassingly easy save for bosses like Sephiroth where it might take a few tries rather than winning on the first go. KH2 straight up has combo enders with homing mechanics, you don't even have to try. 

KH1 Sephiroth meanwhile is stacked against you, that bitch can reduce your HP down to 1 with a spammable move. 

You do a ton less damage at level 1 so it takes awhile for triangle to become relevant. 

Spam it harder lol. 

My point was that it's not real life, so you prove my point. 

Yeah, press buttons against an enemy incapable of learning, it's easy. 

Real gamers fight other gamers, they adapt to you which forces you to adapt to them. It's like a dance. 

It's kind of like talking with you, thinking it might be a challenge but then realizing it's pointless and that you'd rather change the rules to suit you like a true normie. 

You just don't like losing, it shows in your choice of challenges. 

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last edit on 11/17/2023 3:11:59 AM
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I used to really enjoy Arma 3 pvp so how is that preferring to fight cpus? There's even less multiplayer games that I like than single player. Back to KH2, you only unlock a lot of the other stuff until later on and a lot of basic attacks and combos remain very punishable along with low health and low strength without leveling up and not having access to much more strength until you beat Beast's Castle that has a painfully lengthy two phase boss. 

In a lot of multiplayer games, players are more or less equal or that gap closes via playtime or microtransactions.

Fighting games are rock, paper, scissors along with needing a formulaic understanding of the mechanics which I don't find fun. There is an element of reflexes but it's not everything and that alone doesn't make a game fun to me.

last edit on 11/17/2023 4:17:06 AM
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Tacky said: 

I used to really enjoy Arma 3 pvp so how is that preferring to fight cpus? There's even less multiplayer games that I like than single player. Back to KH2, you only unlock a lot of the other stuff until later on and a lot of basic attacks and combos remain very punishable along with low health and low strength without leveling up and not having access to much more strength until you beat Beast's Castle that has a painfully lengthy two phase boss. 

In a lot of multiplayer games, players are more or less equal or that gap closes via playtime or microtransactions.

Fighting games are rock, paper, scissors along with needing a formulaic understanding of the mechanics which I don't find fun. There is an element of reflexes but it's not everything and that alone doesn't make a game fun to me.

 What?  Have you played Tekken?

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Tacky said: 

Back to KH2, you only unlock a lot of the other stuff until later on and a lot of basic attacks and combos remain very punishable along with low health and low strength without leveling up and not having access to much more strength until you beat Beast's Castle that has a painfully lengthy two phase boss. 

I dunno, save for a few exceptions the enemies have abnormally predictable timing in KH1 and KH2. 

The hardcore players I've watched on Youtube for it run mods once the self-imposed challenges stop being enough. The game feels really good over a fun sense of motion, but it's more cinematic than anything. 

The traditional Kingdom Hearts games would be really fun if it had a versus mode. 

In a lot of multiplayer games, players are more or less equal or that gap closes via playtime or microtransactions.

If there's a money component they're selling out. There are games that are above that, where at most your money is going to additional characters or skins. 

Fighting games are rock, paper, scissors along with needing a formulaic understanding of the mechanics which I don't find fun. There is an element of reflexes but it's not everything and that alone doesn't make a game fun to me.

If it's that easy, you should have no problem going through Ranked right? 

Right? 

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last edit on 11/17/2023 5:26:18 AM
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It's hard because I don't want to learn the mechanics of fighting games so I do not play them. I mostly prefer realistic games like Arma which I don't even care for too much and rpgs being supreme in my mind. I don't care for challenge unless the mechanics and gameplay are superb like it is in Arma. Only thing I don't like in Arma 3 are the graphics when I prefer graphics to be a lot more simple. 

last edit on 11/17/2023 5:28:35 AM
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