For real, look at it again:
June 21st: I reply with the following:
Short version: "If Tryp blocked you over one thing, it must have been cumulatively weighted rather than just over the one thing."
It's how you're responding now that lends to more questions.
Why do you think I responded that way?
For real, look at it again:
June 21st: I reply with the following:
Short version: "If Tryp blocked you over one thing, it must have been cumulatively weighted rather than just over the one thing."
It's how you're responding now that lends to more questions.Why do you think I responded that way?
You think she's going to actually answer that? Don't waste your time. Even if she does, which is rarely, the answer is ultimately some beating around the bush or some other un selfaware bs. Not once have I seen this person actually give an honest, genuine, answer or apology. As if they are actually going to have a discussion in good faith. I doubt it.
You've had this pattern of simping for a while now, same with the "poor blanc" shit you used to do before. You're using conditional statements to crouch your tacit support (against me) of something that wouldn't even make sense for me to do. But it only applies if it's true!
Why shouldn't I be concerned about Blanc though? I've been reading her topics for a while now and have seen many of her times she was reduced to either awkwardness or frustration as reasonable based on her life and the actions of some of her peers pressuring her. Watching you stringing her along like this has never been fun for me, just as it hadn't been for others you messed with, except you understand how she's able and willing to keep returning to your abuse.
You can't seriously be this shook over some if statements, unless you see there's some level of merit to it. Maybe keep your temper (and your drinking) under control instead of blaming everyone else for responding naturally to it, as if you weren't out of control this conversation wouldn't even be a thing.
CS and Blanc were having a debate in a public discord over it, I responded with four lines, and now you're making it out like it's all on me as some kind of PR move. Take some responsibility over yourself, we're responding to your actions as per the grapevine. If you didn't spend time trying to spotlight it like this, this wouldn't even have become a clarification topic.
I was not debating! I was responding to her accusations and then I quit because it was illogical and made no sense at all. Freaking her and med try to blame me for their issues and it’s not my fault. I did nothing to them. I’m just living my life and they are living theirs. Stop characterizing everything incorrectly. She yelled at me and I responded. That’s not a debate.
Turncoat said:I find it more interesting how, rather than focus on your own mistakes, that you're instead stuck looking at how people are responding to you.
Isn't the thread called "I apparently offended Tryp?", where the main subject is how I responded to something you said? I feel like we've been following this conversation just fine. I'm stuck looking at how people are responding to me? I'm barely around here nowadays, I don't think you even know how people respond to me aside from 2 people who recently had a dispute over me. The nature of that whole dispute being unknowable to you.
And it's not like this is a new thing you've tried to do with me, you've been doing this for years. Also, out of all of this abuse talk...have you ever considered I don't often defend myself on here because it involves re-litigating personal drama?
If you were stronger still, you could withstand it as you once did.
Instead now you are afraid of "re-litigating personal drama" over how you don't know how to seek closure, don't know how to actually resolve the problem, as you continue to fall into depreciating loops.
You're making it sound like you're walking through a minefield of potential fights, when really you're the one either laying the mines or forgetting to disarm the ones on your routes.
Blanc was that confused and willing to lash out at CS over how you do not know how to properly close a fight, over how you cannot compromise with them beyond telling yourself to keep your mouth shut and let them vent on occasion. You even try to use their venting to make them seem nuttier than they are, effectively an ad hom by proxy that further ignores how you were related to the display.Lots of assumptions. I.e. you think I don't know how to get closure on arguments, I am causing fights all the time, etc. It says more about what you think about me. The venting part to make someone seem "nuttier than they are" is about the closest you get to reality here. Some of the venting in this community is pretty crazy, not even just talking about volume of it. I don't think if I point out a nutty rant, that I'm really making the person seem nuttier than they are, though. Maybe we just have different definitions of what is sane.
And maybe sometime it's better to move on in a way that doesn't involve a fringe internet community?
You clearly have not moved on.
You don't even know what my grievances are or why there are problems, yet because it's me, you feel compelled to try to get a little hit in. And then what, I called you a faggot for it drunk later? Well deserved.
All I did was comment on their conversation with some "if" statements, now you're going on about snakes and conspiracies and junk again.
If you'd focus on your own problems, in this case at least since this time it is actually about you, you'd be able to live a more comfortable life. You worry about these things because you see them as not having been resolved, but rather instead brushed under the rug.Again, you're trying to paint a picture here, but part of the flaw here is that others know you can be snakey. You kind of proved it already in this thread where you tried to act like you were making innocent conditional statements, then the underlying thoughts behind those started coming out later in the thread. I'm doing alright with my own problems, maybe you can use a break off the site too.
We did not have a dispute over you. It was over who was to blame for problems in her own life. She blamed me and I said it wasn’t my fault she had issues. That’s on her. I don’t blame my issues on anyone and she shouldn’t blame hers on me. That was pretty much the entire convo from my side. It wasn’t about you. You just happened to be part of the problem she blamed on me.
My take on this issue:
TC was just telling that chick that she’s being crazy because she was blaming me for something I had nothing to do with. He was just pointing out that it doesn’t matter whose fault it was, but that the crux of the issue she’s having is that he may not care about her. This, I believe, is where “the dude” may have felt attacked because…
Anyway, TC was just like… in general, not as an attack on the dude, if a dude blocks you for what you said he blocked you for, then he clearly doesn’t like you and pretty much was saying she should move on and stop blaming others for that dude’s actions.
This sentiment may have made the dude a bit defensive and he saw it as an attack because TC was pretty much telling Blanc to move on and that she’s not being treated well, which signals a lack of caring on the dude’s part. I say may have because it probably just frustrates his process or whatever. This will be explained more below.
Then, the dude, commented, not necessarily to TC, but really to tell the girl that he does care and she is unblocked and to contact him. That’s why he said, “I unblocked,” or something like that. He’s like, “talk to me and don’t let this guy get into your head. I still want you.”
So, the next time the dude commented, he attacked TC for commenting the way he did, because he wanted to make the girl aware that he was there and since she hadn’t contacted him yet, he blamed TC, partially for it, so he attacked him because that gives him a way to signal to the girl that he’s available, and gets some of his anger out, and even potentially leads to this thread, which now allows the girl to know where he is at all times, which gives her more opportunity to contact him because she’s not scared he’s busy or talking to someone else.
Now, the argument that ensued has a bit to do with the underlying issue of contact with the girl, but it has also turned into a useless argument because the dude knows that TC did not mean anything by what he said, but his reaction led to this, which is kind of his goal of being seen as available because if he’s here, it means he has nothing else to do, so the chick won’t feel bad for contacting him.
You can tell this is the case because of how pointless the convo is and how obvious it was that TC was innocently commenting. The possibility that he was being mean, however, is there because they have a history of TC whitenighting for the girl and that effecting the dude negatively, as he doesn’t want to have to show his feelings in order for someone to not run from him, but TC’s comments may cause the girl to run, which means she won’t run back to the dude.
The dude wants her to run back so he doesn’t have to admit anything and can just chill and enjoy whatever she brings to the table when she contacts him again. The TC intervention may cause him to have to reach out to her, which would really ruin a lot of things for him because then, who is doing the chasing? If it’s him, then that’s a problem because he cares, but not enough to chase in an obvious way.
He’s like… trying to preserve the dynamic, so he can… Don’t want to give away too much, but that’s what is happening behind the scenes. That’s how my brain sees things because I can see behind the words and behind the actions. There’s your sneak peak.
You’re welcome. Dude will try and refute, but TC knows why he said what he did and knows it was close to as innocent as it gets, so he can see how his comment is being used against him in a way that makes nearly no sense. Now it makes sense, huh?
For real, look at it again:
Short version: "If Tryp blocked you over one thing, it must have been cumulatively weighted rather than just over the one thing."
It's how you're responding now that lends to more questions.Why do you think I responded that way?
You think she's going to actually answer that? Don't waste your time. Even if she does, which is rarely, the answer is ultimately some beating around the bush or some other un selfaware bs. Not once have I seen this person actually give an honest, genuine, answer or apology. As if they are actually going to have a discussion in good faith. I doubt it.
Delora, I've typically answer your questions, but they are never good enough answers for you over how you continue to not understand it, or otherwise become so overstimulated over your own emotions that you become incapable of the discussion overall before blaming the person for having made you feel that way... while 9/10 of the time entirely missing the point (especially when it's a joke). I've in the past used the reading eyes of others to make sure it "wasn't just me" who got what I was saying, and after enough times I don't see the value in it when it comes to you.
While I used to get trapped into the feeling of responsibility over making sure you understand what I'm saying, I've seen since getting older that that is a privilege I ought to reserve instead for those with decent enough comprehension, and unlike you Tryp is one of those. In spite of his table turning problem he is worth the extra time over discussions over how he understands enough nuance to have it be an actual exchange, and while he may struggle with self-direction in discussions like these he overall shows the ability to absorb what's going on.
TC was just telling that chick that she’s being crazy because she was blaming me for something I had nothing to do with.
She was triggered if anything in this case, not crazy. 🤷
He was just pointing out that it doesn’t matter whose fault it was
It kinda does matter, if it didn't then Blanc going after you over it would be that much more acceptable.
stop blaming others for that dude’s actions.
This part's on point anyway.
This sentiment may have made the dude a bit defensive and he saw it as an attack because TC was pretty much telling Blanc to move on and that she’s not being treated well, which signals a lack of caring on the dude’s part. I say may have because it probably just frustrates his process or whatever. This will be explained more below.
This part meanwhile is not.
I said this is a straw that broke the camel's back situation, and had it been over only one thing that then they must not care at all.
What this is blowing up into though has raised many questions for me, it seemed like a small thing before he showed it'd been resting on his mind for days.
and gets some of his anger out, and even potentially leads to this thread,
What led to this topic was him showing his feelings bare in the chat on here.
In the past I've chosen to just stay out of it and see what happens, but then like a month later things mutate on their own and become that much more of a hassle to deal with. Instead I am having a chronology dedicated to the OP that can then be referenced as time goes on.
Now, the argument that ensued has a bit to do with the underlying issue of contact with the girl, but it has also turned into a useless argument because the dude knows that TC did not mean anything by what he said, but his reaction led to this, which is kind of his goal of being seen as available because if he’s here, it means he has nothing else to do, so the chick won’t feel bad for contacting him.
So what, you think this is Tryp responding to feeling embarassed?
You can tell this is the case because of how pointless the convo is and how obvious it was that TC was innocently commenting. The possibility that he was being mean, however, is there because they have a history of TC whitenighting for the girl and that effecting the dude negatively, as he doesn’t want to have to show his feelings in order for someone to not run from him, but TC’s comments may cause the girl to run, which means she won’t run back to the dude.
It's Blanc, she'll always come back to him. I'm sure he's not worrying about that at all, or if he is that would legitimately surprise me.
The dude wants her to run back so he doesn’t have to admit anything and can just chill and enjoy whatever she brings to the table when she contacts him again. The TC intervention may cause him to have to reach out to her, which would really ruin a lot of things for him because then, who is doing the chasing? If it’s him, then that’s a problem because he cares, but not enough to chase in an obvious way.
The blocking was enough to warrant a 'reaching out', this instead is him overreacting over "having not made any mistakes".
He’s like… trying to preserve the dynamic, so he can… Don’t want to give away too much, but that’s what is happening behind the scenes.
How shady.
You’re welcome. Dude will try and refute, but TC knows why he said what he did and knows it was close to as innocent as it gets, so he can see how his comment is being used against him in a way that makes nearly no sense. Now it makes sense, huh?
Literally said "it was likely the straw to break the camel's back" and he's still mad.
For real, look at it again:
June 21st: I reply with the following:
Short version: "If Tryp blocked you over one thing, it must have been cumulatively weighted rather than just over the one thing."
It's how you're responding now that lends to more questions.Why do you think I responded that way?
At this point I'm assuming you took what I said as something worse, and feel strangely threatened over it.
You feeling threatened by it is the "woah what?" of it all, as I said before this kind of thing used to be nothing to you.
TC the core of the issue is that I see you trying to set frames sometimes. They look innocent, but it's manipulation.
That was not my intent, and if that's how you're seeing it I'm not sure what to tell you.
You could try to look at what actions and mistakes you made that have led to this stage of the discussion.
