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Xadem said: 

kek that's somehow even more disturbing than chapo's answer

 I just know the world is fallen and stuff will happen. It’s up to each person to make themselves right with God and if doing a terrible act is what brought you to God, who am I to judge and say nothing good came out of it. I was raped and it’s because no one cared enough about me to protect me. It happens, that’s life. It sucks, but it’s not like a law will stop people, so it literally has no value to me, when it comes to rape. Parents need to protect their kids. That’s the only answer there can be. 

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Good said: 

Do you guys think CS is a troll? I do not, but it would be the sane option. I will respond as if she is not a troll.

 

I can’t choose either option because I believe it’s a more complicated issue than that. I think child rape is wrong, but I know some people don’t and I believe in freedom, so I think it should be up to the person doing it if it’s worth it and I think it should be the parent’s job to prevent their kid from being a target.

That’s your job as a parent, in my view. I don’t think we should leave it up to legislation just because people don’t know how to watch their kids and protect them from predators and I think predators may have been born that way or created, but either way, they should be granted the same freedoms as everyone else.

They should be able to take your child if you don’t care enough to protect it. That’s a parent problem, not a government problem. It should be discouraged though, so there should be a punishment if they like broke into a house to steal a kid, but if the door was unlocked, there should be no punishment. Protect what’s yours people. Protect what you care about. 

Sometimes I read(hear) something and I can't believe another human wrote(said) it. I try to think of every human pattern and every personality possible and it is still hard to believe. I try to imagine how a person comes to these conclusions, what is their life path, and what are their experiences. And what kind of thinking led to the conclusions these people could have had from the experiences they might have had. So many permutations and I sit and read the same message multiple times, for minutes, till I find a permutation that my brain can feel comfortable with.

But I still fail sometimes. It is exceptionally rare that I do. I find similar permutations that almost touch the personality required, but they still have a great enough variance that I can't apply the template.

How is it possible that another human being exists with such opinions?

Fortunately, the solution is clear. One of male toxicity as TC would say. I call it cultural alignment.

 

Also, I do not hate you in this post here, I just think about what it would take to create a better society, it's a hobby.

 I didn’t think the debate was about what would make the world a better place. I thought we were talking about what would work to make the world a better place. 

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Good said:
Do you guys think CS is a troll? I do not, but it would be the sane option. I will respond as if she is not a troll.

Conversations between her and Jim were leaked several years ago about her desire to diddle kids, it was very explicit and vulgar. Maybe it was just a heated rp where she was getting off to the vulgarity of the situation, but that one is hard to write off. Plus she then traveled to the other side of the world to meet Jim. 

Add to that the implied situations where she and Chapo where having sex in the same room as Jade, or where Jade was put into an inappropriate sexual situation with chapo...the pattern becomes very concerning. 

 I would never and have never written anything vulgar in my life. I swear to God. I don’t know where you’re getting your information from, but I’ve never discussed this topic with Jim before, while we were together, other than the day he watched it, the day after some kids helped me find my way home, and the day we walked by a little girl who molested me, trying to get me to give her money.

She was never in an inappropriate situation with Chapo, except accidentally, once, she was just on the same bed for a second, after he already started touching himself. It was a giant hotel bed though and she was at the foot and I was sitting up, under the blanket, so she couldn’t see anything, other than the blanket and it was only for a split second.

 You guys are just playing Telephone with the truth. Nearly everything you wrote was a lie.

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Lenalee said: 

 

Good said:
Do you guys think CS is a troll? I do not, but it would be the sane option. I will respond as if she is not a troll.

Conversations between her and Jim were leaked several years ago about her desire to diddle kids, it was very explicit and vulgar. Maybe it was just a heated rp where she was getting off to the vulgarity of the situation, but that one is hard to write off. Plus she then traveled to the other side of the world to meet Jim. 

Add to that the implied situations where she and Chapo where having sex in the same room as Jade, or where Jade was put into an inappropriate sexual situation with chapo...the pattern becomes very concerning. 

 CS is absolutely a pedophile, not a troll and her only disgust towards Jim's cp theater time was that she liked girls a little older, in the 5-7 year old range where what Jim had put on to watch was infants and toddlers.

 For your information, I am not a pedo. I am not attracted to children, so I by definition cannot be a pedo. I just know that no law is going to stop a rapists, but what can is a parent protecting their children from the rapists but never leaving their side.

That is what I intend to do with my baby, through thick and thin, since we will be homeless soon since we don’t have rent for next month. I suggest others follow suit. It’s already illegal and I got raped. Both actually and statutorily in the same instance, which also happened to be my first sexual experience and even first kiss because he forced me to kiss him as he walked me home to make sure I wouldn’t tell.

It was the longest walk of my life and it was about three miles. He said we are boyfriend and girlfriend now. I think he was crazy. He said he was accused of rape before, but the girl never said no. Then I said, “But I said no… several times… he got mad and that’s when he decided we have to be boyfriend and girlfriend, so I think he was just insane, but I don’t know… he tricked me by asking me for directions and then gilt tripped me hard about homeless people, and then got me to go with him to explore a body and then randomly pulled down his pants, sat down and said, “Get on my lap.” I looked over, I was like, no, and then I ran and he grabbed my arm and I yanked it away, started climbing up the ladder to the top of the boat, got out, ran towards the dock, so I could get off of the boat, but then, I looked, and the dock was about ten feet away from the boat, yet the bottom of the boat was practically three feet away from the dock. I didn’t know what to do, so I was just like, no please, don’t. I don’t want to.

Then I just said please stop over and over again, and the only thing that stopped him was a helicopter that flew by. I guess he was probably like on the run from his other rape crimes. He said his dad cut him off financially because of the rape allegations. So he was lucid enough to know how to trick me. He probably saw me volunteering at the soup kitchen! I used to feed the homeless like four times per week.

That’s how he knew the guilt trip would work. He said I’m sure you don’t want to be friends with a homeless person because we are all gross and stuff. I was like, no, I feed the homeless all of the time. I wouldn’t mind having a homeless friend. Then the next part was my defiance and my retarded need to prove I’m loving of all people, and no one would be home to know I was missing if I took a few hour detour from walking home, so when he asked if I wanted to walk to seaport village to check out the boats, I was like yeah. I love that place! It was like a ten minute walk. 

Anyway, that’s why I don’t think a law would cut it. 

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Lenalee said: 
Lenalee said: 

 

Good said:
Do you guys think CS is a troll? I do not, but it would be the sane option. I will respond as if she is not a troll.

Conversations between her and Jim were leaked several years ago about her desire to diddle kids, it was very explicit and vulgar. Maybe it was just a heated rp where she was getting off to the vulgarity of the situation, but that one is hard to write off. Plus she then traveled to the other side of the world to meet Jim. 

Add to that the implied situations where she and Chapo where having sex in the same room as Jade, or where Jade was put into an inappropriate sexual situation with chapo...the pattern becomes very concerning. 

 CS is absolutely a pedophile, not a troll and her only disgust towards Jim's cp theater time was that she liked girls a little older, in the 5-7 year old range where what Jim had put on to watch was infants and toddlers.

 Thank you for the details. 

 You would know better than me. is the Jade being in the room while she and Chapo would fuck and Chapo letting her on his lap while he had an erection true? She stated something like this in chat while mad at Chapo? 

 Tryp told us about it- Chapo masturbating while had was near, she climbed on top of him and instead of stopping he went harder for a bit and she then claimed to have taken Jade away. In retaliation Chapo said she would be touching Jade while they had sex and he never did that.

https://sociopathcommunity.com/Forum/Topic/20980/1/cs-let-chapo-masturbate-on-her-baby-thanks-for-calling-fbi-quin-

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 There was always a blanket. Nothing happened. She didn’t see anything, except a blanket. You copied and pasted that, by the way. Those are way out of context. Nothing happened. She was just in the vicinity, and I corrected that. You guys are making a big deal out of a accident where she was on the bed for a split section,  while he was doing that, because she climbed on the bed. Literally no negative consequences and you guys are going crazy about it because you guys keeping adding random crap that didn’t happen to it. 

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Chapo already said he was lying about me touching my baby. That’s not even in my character to do that, even if I was a pedo. I value family above all else and I was devastated when I heard something actually did happen to my baby, so it kind of upsets me that you guys are so willing to believe the worst in people that you don’t even care if your claims make sense or if they’re true or not or even if you’re hurting an innocent person.

That’s the part that gets me. You don’t even stop to think about how I feel being accused of doing things and being things that I disapprove of and would never do, just because I’m not on your hater train. Pedos are humans too. They make mistakes and are punished with jail, just like everyone else.

Their targets are poor choices, but you can’t be picky in this world. A criminal is going to be a criminal, it’s your job to protect what you care about. Everyone comes to God in their own way, so I really can’t hate anyone for anything. I was raped several times before I was 18 and it’s just life man. 

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So both are guilty of exposing themselves to a child in a sexually, and likely were physical with her in some kind of sexual way. 

 I’ve never exposed myself to my baby sexually. You have real issues. That’s freaking weird. That’s my baby you weirdo.

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Lenalee said: 

 

Good said:
Do you guys think CS is a troll? I do not, but it would be the sane option. I will respond as if she is not a troll.

Conversations between her and Jim were leaked several years ago about her desire to diddle kids, it was very explicit and vulgar. Maybe it was just a heated rp where she was getting off to the vulgarity of the situation, but that one is hard to write off. Plus she then traveled to the other side of the world to meet Jim. 

Add to that the implied situations where she and Chapo where having sex in the same room as Jade, or where Jade was put into an inappropriate sexual 

 

The thing is, Jim and Cawk are fully aware of the ethics and social problems with pedophilia. CS seems... confused.

 I’m not a pedo and I don’t condone it, but people are people. No one is perfect and I think that’s weird to let your kid touch you down there and to be naked in front of them. We have to shower together because the shower is too tiny for me to shower her without getting wet, but that’s the only time I’m ever naked at all. I don’t like being naked. I don’t even have sex naked. I believe in God, so I love everyone. Not what they do, but them. Hate the sin, not the sinner.

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some abuse victims turn into their abuser. maybe they make excuses for a grown ass man having a sexual relationship with them when they were what, 14? and then begin perving on their own child when he is roughly that age. the sexual deviancy is spurred on by the moral confusion, the person is so sure what they did isn't wrong they speak about it publicly like it's some cute joke.

the worst possible outcome of child abuse is the child becoming their abuser.

 I agree. That’s why I could never be a pedo. Not only am I not into kids, but also I could never hurt anyone on purpose. I’m too nice. I don’t want to even be a burden to people, yet alone be evil. I work for God, not the devil.

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Xena said: 

CS fits the standard pattern.

But smthg about her is also... off in some way.

 I believe in freedom, so my normalizing it, put it as a normal crime and no crime is 100% preventable, but if you protect your children, all will be well.

I forgot it’s probably also because I got raped because I had a long walk home and no one was going to be there if I got home late, and no one ever told me why you don’t talk to strangers or delineated how the strangers I talked to at the key club luncheons were different from ones from the street.

That’s why I blame the parents and put the responsibility on them to protect their children. Crazy people exist and laws can’t protect you from them. They just punish the person after the fact. 

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