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And violent criminals who have killed or maimed more than once go to gladiator pits to entertain the masses, who would be charged for tickets, like a football game

 Yes to this ^

 

Especially people who hurt kids.

 

People get so riled up about football and sports- which has never made sense to me. Sports have no influence or consequences regarding anything outside of the Fandom. It's an emulation of violence with no deeper meaning and no benefit.

 

Violent criminals and child offenders fighting to the death? That's entertainment AND a purge of society's worst.

 

Would you watch the murderer v pedo gladiator fights? Share why or why not. Include if you watch any sports already and how this would compare or differ to your experience in a sports Fandom.

Sc is pretty boring.
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It could lend to sensationalizing criminals into gladiatorial celebrities, ultimately turning punishment into funishment while risking them gaining sponsorships if not securing other means of funding. They could end up potentially securing their way out of prison, gain a fanbase on the outside with media to further sensationalize them on par with WWE stars, and gladiatorial challenges like that would harden them into more bloodthirsty yet efficient criminals. Past a point it could even become desirable to some people to do something bad enough to be able to join the fights, treating it like something between MMA and Hobo Fights. 

Having bloodthirsty people duke it out also defeats the purpose of prison effectively torturing them with nothing to do, they end up so understimulated that getting out becomes that much more desirable. This by contrast would give them something to do and ultimately put them through a process that'd serve to make them worse, rather than rehabilitate them or at the very least pacify them. 

There's also the unfortunate comedy that could follow a false imprisonment, we've had people who were not guilty serve decades long sentences before. I could even imagine some people purposely getting themselves thrown in prison to enact vigilante justice against someone in there if they had a personal stake in it. 

We'd also need guards that could keep these criminals under control, where do you suppose we'd find such people when these criminals are glorified warriors? 

Ultimately, it supports a lot of bad ideas following it, rather than the idea on it's own necessarily being bad. 

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Oh  :)

Thanks for reviving my thead  :)

 

 

Can't remember when it was that I originally posted this, but iirc it wasn't as popular as I had hoped.

Fewer than 20 responses, and 5 of them were mine.

 

And hell yes. I would enjoy booking them and watching them fight.

 

I would book between one and 5 arenas, once or twice each year, depending on the size of the country and the size of their crime problem.

But some assholes are too cruel to leave them to their own countries.

 

We could also turn some special venues into a way to help wartorn countries to rebuild by importing criminals from The Hague for special shows.

Say, The Butcher of Bucha against the Idaho student slaughterer, who recently murdered 4 college kids in their beds while they slept.

In addition to charging a usual ticket price (around $50, like a normal baseball, football or basketball game) we could sell hot dogs and beer, take bets, etc.

We could even sell t shirts depending on the popularity of the criminal fighting.

 

> Helter Skelter under Charlie Manson's girls pics or whatever

 

We could have an optional category for people who are moved to commit softer crimes for money and/or are motivated by drug addiction, who may be feeling suicidal, who want a way to make enough cash to go to their families, while dying with dignity, holding the axe or sword that takes out a hated repeat child rapist.

We could make t shirts or action figures to honour competitors like this.

 

More Running Man than Hunger Games, but without the dirty exploitative stuff.

The winner for the year (last man standing) really would get $2million, a new house, and a chance to rebuild their lives.

 

 

We could also have an experimental women's category, tho I suspect we would have to bring women from several countries just to fill up one arena for the day.

Statistically, women are far less likely to commit violent crimes more than once.

I fear the women's fights would be made up of disproportionate numbers of impoverished and suicidal ladies wanting to kill rapists and child molestors.

 

 

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It could lend to sensationalizing criminals into gladiatorial celebrities, ultimately turning punishment into funishment while risking them gaining sponsorships if not securing other means of funding. They could end up potentially securing their way out of prison, gain a fanbase on the outside with media to further sensationalize them on par with WWE stars, and gladiatorial challenges like that would harden them into more bloodthirsty yet efficient criminals. Past a point it could even become desirable to some people to do something bad enough to be able to join the fights, treating it like something between MMA and Hobo Fights. 

 No. I mean serious offenders. Repeat offenders. Rapists, murderers, people who rape and torture toddlers.

It will be understood that they're going to that arena to die.

There will be one winner each year.

The person will get $2million, a modest house with 3 or 4 bedrooms (depending on the person's family size.)

The person will also get their freedom, a full pardon, and a chance to start over with 2-6 years of whatever education he requests to make the transition more workable.

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Having bloodthirsty people duke it out also defeats the purpose of prison effectively torturing them with nothing to do, they end up so understimulated that getting out becomes that much more desirable. This by contrast would give them something to do and ultimately put them through a process that'd serve to make them worse, rather than rehabilitate them or at the very least pacify them. 

 

Again, they go into the ring to die.

 

 



There's also the unfortunate comedy that could follow a false imprisonment, we've had people who were not guilty serve decades long sentences before. I could even imagine some people purposely getting themselves thrown in prison to enact vigilante justice against someone in there if they had a personal stake in it. 

 Erm... it's possible, but why would the person want to get arrested twice for violent offences... not to mention the risk of death... when they could just buy a carton of smokes for somebody inside to do the job?

Also, remember I said repeat offenders. 

last edit on 12/11/2022 4:19:59 PM
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We'd also need guards that could keep these criminals under control, where do you suppose we'd find such people when these criminals are glorified warriors? 


 Absolutely.

That's a strange question coming from an American.

 

How many of your vets have been mildly wounded in the last 15 years?

I mean, enough of a wounding that they can't serve again, or work construction or w/e but not so bad that they can't work as a rent-a-cop.

My guess would be at least a million.

I'm pretty sure that's enough of a guard to maintain order at The Games.

 

We could also turn the guards into Celebrity Tik Tok warriors to advertise the events  :)

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It could lend to sensationalizing criminals into gladiatorial celebrities, ultimately turning punishment into funishment while risking them gaining sponsorships if not securing other means of funding. They could end up potentially securing their way out of prison, gain a fanbase on the outside with media to further sensationalize them on par with WWE stars, and gladiatorial challenges like that would harden them into more bloodthirsty yet efficient criminals. Past a point it could even become desirable to some people to do something bad enough to be able to join the fights, treating it like something between MMA and Hobo Fights. 

 No. I mean serious offenders. Repeat offenders. Rapists, murderers, people who rape and torture toddlers.

Why would you want to platform them and sensationalize them? You'd be giving the room for fandom and potentially copycat behavior. 

It will be understood that they're going to that arena to die.

The meaning of death would change. 

There will be one winner each year.

The person will get $2million, a modest house with 3 or 4 bedrooms (depending on the person's family size.)

See, you're incentivizing it. 

Someone who's ex-marine or some shit might end up diddling a kid for the chance to win a $2mil home. 

The person will also get their freedom, a full pardon, and a chance to start over with 2-6 years of whatever education he requests to make the transition more workable.

Celebrity status as well, they'd straight up be a celebrity, with enough infamy to have no one want to fuck with them, not even the cops. 

You'd pretty much be making super-criminals, we'd need Batmen. 

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civilized people made my life a living hell and openly said they wish i was in prison and tried to entrap me. 

why the fuck would i hate criminals???

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I'm not a big follower of sports, but every so often, my friends will talk about some wunderkind like Gretzky, or smthg unusual like when the Toronto Blue Jays won the World Series, and I have to watch bc there's just so much noise about it.

I will also go to a local game if I have a personal friend who's playing.

I don't dress up or wave those weird furry green finger hands around.

Just wth is that? lol

 

I've not experienced a moment of violence in sports, tbh.

Even my local hockey players were always wonderful players who played bc of family tradition.

Very polite boys.

They learned from young children of 3 and 4 and 5 that the game is dangerous enough without adding personal grudges to it.

Where I grew up, sports are community. A way for kids who don't do well at much else to excel.

 

But I'm Canadian, and I haven't had much exposure to American football.

That shit looks painful.

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Xena said: 

It could lend to sensationalizing criminals into gladiatorial celebrities, ultimately turning punishment into funishment while risking them gaining sponsorships if not securing other means of funding. They could end up potentially securing their way out of prison, gain a fanbase on the outside with media to further sensationalize them on par with WWE stars, and gladiatorial challenges like that would harden them into more bloodthirsty yet efficient criminals. Past a point it could even become desirable to some people to do something bad enough to be able to join the fights, treating it like something between MMA and Hobo Fights. 

 No. I mean serious offenders. Repeat offenders. Rapists, murderers, people who rape and torture toddlers.

Why would you want to platform them and sensationalize them? You'd be giving the room for fandom and potentially copycat behavior. 

It will be understood that they're going to that arena to die.

The meaning of death would change. 

There will be one winner each year.

The person will get $2million, a modest house with 3 or 4 bedrooms (depending on the person's family size.)

See, you're incentivizing it. 

Someone who's ex-marine or some shit might end up diddling a kid for the chance to win a $2mil home. 

The person will also get their freedom, a full pardon, and a chance to start over with 2-6 years of whatever education he requests to make the transition more workable.

Celebrity status as well, they'd straight up be a celebrity, with enough infamy to have no one want to fuck with them, not even the cops. 

You'd pretty much be making super-criminals, we'd need Batman and shit. 

 

Wth?

One. Person.

Out of every single criminal put on trial and found guilty all year.

 

The rest die.

And the proceeds from their deaths go to rebuilding.

Did I mention that a decent percentage of the profits would go to the victims and their families?

If not, it's in my other thread.

Also, the kind of money that's generated by filling up arenas turns entire cities into boom towns.

 

And yeah the cops will go after them bc the winners get tossed immediately back into the arena after they're tried if they screw up.

They can't win twice.

In the event that a winner from a previous year re offends, he will forfeit everything. It will be divvied up evenly between the guy's family and the victim.

And he dies in the arena with no chance of winning or redemption.

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