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Seriously, just Logistics and Geopolitics. 

Sometimes its in your best interests for a population to starve. 

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Seriously, just Logistics and Geopolitics. 

I somehow don't see every idealist rich dude having a degree in that, or even a general focus on it. 

These are the same people where enough of them are throwing money into completely unrelated dumpster fires with enough common sense lacked to see the problem and too much pride to listen to others warnings. 

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last edit on 12/8/2022 6:29:03 PM
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Seriously, just Logistics and Geopolitics. 

Sometimes its in your best interests for a population to starve. 

 What a crock of sh*t, tell it to the UN

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cx3 said: 

Companies are established to make money, not give it away regardless of how poor or starving people are. There is no incentive to better the world, for exploitation is too profitable. Many in third world countries work to survive and provide for their families. When one motivation is cut from their needs, they start looking for work that treats them like humans. Dehumanization is a powerful tool to leverage, and when people are treated fairly they start demanding other human rights. Who will work in the cobalt mines or apple sweatshop when people are provided basic necessities? Why incentivise them to rebel against the system? The poor will always be the stepping stone of the rich or successful. 

 ^^ This.

The answer is: Nobody rlly cares about hungry people, or competent people who could do much better for themselves and their communities.

The sad fact is that most people who are wealthy enough to end world hunger only give to charity to stroke their own egos, or use their so-called 'selfless act' to advertise some other product that will net all kinds of profit for them.

Nobody wants to end world hunger bc the rich and much of the middle class get that way by throwing ppl under the bus.

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Med said: 

Seriously, just Logistics and Geopolitics. 

Sometimes its in your best interests for a population to starve. 

 What a crock of sh*t, tell it to the UN

 The UN misspoke and scrambled to tweet the following: 

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Basically it would be give em a sandwich and some vouchers per what they've outlined, not actually doing anything permanent to help these people out. No infrastructure of water treatment plants, no teaching native agriculture or any of the sort. It's the most basic thing which is to give meals to those on the brink of starvation and famine. 

 

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This is from their website, outlining how they would put that money to use.

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It would cost more than 6B to actually solve world hunger while at the same time stepping on political toes while also reigning in some companies practices.

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Okay... so what if he used 5%, or hell, what if he spent as much on that as he did on Twitter (around 15% of his net worth)

It does have me wonder if there are people who's job it is to keep other rich people in line. I would have otherwise imagined one of them trying as some sort of bragging right, even if it got shut down. 


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last edit on 12/8/2022 8:19:31 PM
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Okay... so what if he used 5%? 

It does have me wonder if there are people who's job it is to keep other rich people in line. 

 Him and bezos were singled out i think, so really with both of them there ought to be something possible but again it would be stepping on a lot of political toes, and any meaningful change would mean you're building on and farming the land. Not to be the woke white Bethany but that would make a lot of people screech on about colonizing.

I think it's also about certain titles, musk and bezos were both named wealthiest people of whatever year and i think that's a lot to do with it. Tho it does seem like bezos is giving to charity? 

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Tho it might not matter if he is giving to charity as they typically only donate to things that will benefit them. A starving desperate population is easier to exploit so i don't think they'll be any sort of solution  

 

 

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Lenalee said: 

Okay... so what if he used 5%? 

It does have me wonder if there are people who's job it is to keep other rich people in line. 

 Him and bezos were singled out i think, so really with both of them there ought to be something possible but again it would be stepping on a lot of political toes, and any meaningful change would mean you're building on and farming the land. Not to be the woke white Bethany but that would make a lot of people screech on about colonizing.

I see "meaningful change" as impossible, but I question something like... I dunno, drones that deliver small parcels of food from a centralized location that has responsibilities delegated to people most fit to manage it. 

In this case it's less about saving the world and more about feeding people, even if it takes sandwich cannons to not have to walk into their politics. 

Tho it might not matter if he is giving to charity as they typically only donate to things that will benefit them. A starving desperate population is easier to exploit so i don't think they'll be any sort of solution  

See, that's where I question how at least one of them wouldn't try at least far enough to fail (Edit: although the article you screencapped is interesting, it looks like someone is maybe?). 

If people can straight up try to make Crypto-Islands, or create cities that no one lives in to appease some weird ego need, why couldn't some rich dude use land like that for efficient food production? 

"Because they don't want to" being the stronger reason still has me question how there hadn't* been exceptions to it. 

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last edit on 12/8/2022 8:24:24 PM
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0 votes RE: Why Isn't World Hunger Solved?

Seriously, just Logistics and Geopolitics. 

I somehow don't see every idealist rich dude having a degree in that, or even a general focus on it. 

These are the same people where enough of them are throwing money into completely unrelated dumpster fires with enough common sense lacked to see the problem and too much pride to listen to others warnings. 

Companies are definitely concerned with Logistics while Nation States deal with the geopolitics, and often their motives and interests align. Often our motives and interests align with theirs as well. Americans do like their standard of living after all. 

Logistics is a huge industry and is really one of the most fundamental building blocks of any major company that deals with industrial manufacturing of any product. When I worked in optimization it was to make supply chains more efficient. 

To relate this to the question, its just not economically feasible to focus on everything at once while maintaining the stability of your interests so you focus on some things while ignoring others.

China didn't rise all on its own for instance. In the early 80's foreign interests, mostly Western investment firms, poured a lot of money into forming Chinas industrial base while United States and Europe established trade deals. That made a lot of sense given Chinese and Western demographics, geography, etc. 

Here's an interesting chart. 

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Another fun chart. 

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The worlds number one Wheat exporter just invaded the number five exporter, and now Ukraine will bring 0 Wheat to market while Russia will struggle to bring even a fraction of theirs. That's geopolitics for ya. 

You can only grow food in specific areas, hence that's why it boils down to logistics and geopolitics and isn't just about some random rich guy. 

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last edit on 12/8/2022 8:46:02 PM
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Lenalee said: 

Okay... so what if he used 5%? 

It does have me wonder if there are people who's job it is to keep other rich people in line. 

 Him and bezos were singled out i think, so really with both of them there ought to be something possible but again it would be stepping on a lot of political toes, and any meaningful change would mean you're building on and farming the land. Not to be the woke white Bethany but that would make a lot of people screech on about colonizing.

I see "meaningful change" as impossible, but I question something like... I dunno, drones that deliver small parcels of food from a centralized location that has responsibilities delegated to people most fit to manage it. 

In this case it's less about saving the world and more about feeding people, even if it takes sandwich cannons to not have to walk into their politics. 

Yes drones and cannon sandwiches would definitely not raise any eyebrows or complaints lol 😆 definitely not accusations of spying or anything.

Tho it might not matter if he is giving to charity as they typically only donate to things that will benefit them. A starving desperate population is easier to exploit so i don't think they'll be any sort of solution  

See, that's where I question how at least one of them wouldn't try at least far enough to fail (Edit: although the article you screencapped is interesting, it looks like someone is maybe?). 

If people can straight up try to make Crypto-Islands, or create cities that no one lives in to appease some weird ego need, why couldn't some rich dude use land like that for efficient food production? 

"Because they don't want to" being the stronger reason still has me question how there hadn't* been exceptions to it. 

 Supposedly Gates was amassing land for this but i haven't heard anything solid about it. 

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