Literally doing it right before claiming you aren't.
That time I prioritized mentioning the difference between Lena and Sugar, cause I regularly criticize Lena for allowing you to influence her thoughts, and you're doing it again.
Mind you Lena doesn't like when I say that, but what I said ? Oh yeah it's the truth. You wouldn't even begin to pull that shit with Sugar, she'll put you in your place.
Clearly there's a hierarchy between you and Lena, it makes her look bad from my perspective.
You push her away and end up taken less seriously when you go on as if she has no agency of her own. For this topic she came in on her own and argued fairly independently of me. This topic began with me agreeing with a point Med made, yet I don't see you pointing at that factor at all, and as we can see from a few lingering upvotes in here even BT is on the same page.
We have tandem opinions over the same subjects, especially something like suicide, and your perspective on how to handle it is beyond toxic.
Also Lena at times is right. Yes I'm callous and I don't feel for people that have mental disorders. I do however would like people to have better emotional control, and you won't find mental health in weakness and collecting sympathy.
Your idea of how to correct people is smacking them, be it verbally or physically, yet when the same is done back to you you go bananas. You even go to the chat to effectively gloat about it, it's super weird.
As far as I can tell, all of your relations for you are held transactionally, with an idea of questioning what you're gaining from them as to not feel like it's a waste of your time. Pair this with a lack of empathy and disproportionate defensiveness... it makes you look a bit narcy.
I don't know what it would take for him to see how his behavior could set off a suicidal person to do something about it, he thinks it's only done for emotional blackmail so right off the bat he's already ready to blame them for talking about being in pain.
This is false too.
I don't default suicide claims as emotional blackmail. This suicide claim, IS emotional blackmail.
When to you is it not, other than assisted suicide ala Kevorkian?
Idiot.
Again. This suicide claim IS emotional blackmail. This one. Not all, but this one is.
You've been going on about how it enables weakness, it's not just about the blackmail factor, and how unconcerned you are when it comes out like that is a red flag about you.
You have problems with the concept of suicide in general, not just when it's used as blackmail, as we saw over your insulting Sinister's name when she made no demands over it.
Your question there is a waste of time, though I'm sure you'd like for me to give you an equally obtuse answer.
So far you have not gone on about any situation where suicide is otherwise acceptable, rather you've gone on about how people trying to help other suicidal people are enabling weakness and about how cries for help are either hostage demands or attention whoring.
I don't see how you expect the OP to be helpful for anyone at all.
Like when you tell your partner you're going to go jump infront of a car, and you expect immediate compliance.
If someone's willing to go as far as jumping in front of a car, for (nearly) any reason, I'd argue that's concerning and a cry for help.
Sure. But when the suicide threat comes with marching orders, it's a rather toxic power play. It's uncool, and deserves no sympathy.
You can cater to it if you wish, but that's more enabling. Whatever works, not for the played, but for the player.
Seriously, imagine coming back from a suicidal scare to see someone effectively blaming you for it.
Beats giving them the royal treatment.
You act like these are your only two options, wtf?
You're twisting reality again. Let's play, say I really assume these are the only 2 options. That would be so terrible wouldn't it ?
Yeah, because there's way more than being an asshole to suicidal people or becoming subservient, those are two different extremes.
You also in this topic have spent time demonizing weakness while going on about how suicide is a byproduct of it, so clearly it's not just about her trying to use it solely.
Really though, Turquie deserves at the very least sympathy for her plight. She puts her issues on full display for us, I find it odd that you haven't become more sympathetic towards her overtime from, at the very least, having known her this long and read this much of her material. Instead she threatens to kill herself and you shame her.
