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That was the worst thing about the religious souls in the hospitals. Someone close to me had made a threat of suicide and this horrible person who is supposed to be impartial and clinical even was saying the suicidal person would go to hell. It was a tech. No doctor would dare do that. I've actually experienced this more than once as a bystander.

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Med said: 

That was the worst thing about the religious souls in the hospitals. Someone close to me had made a threat of suicide and this horrible person who is supposed to be impartial and clinical even was saying the suicidal person would go to hell. It was a tech. No doctor would dare do that. I've actually experienced this more than once as a bystander.

For real I've seen this too (in general). How they even think lashing out like that is helping the suicidal person is messed up, when really it tends to be them airing out their shock at being confronted with a concept they have not put true depth into thinking about. How unprepared people are to talk about it ends up alienating the one ideating suicide, increasing the odds that they'll act on it. 

I've seen more suicidal people respond well to mirroring their grief while attempting to relate to their struggle, rather than rebuking as if they are weak and retarded for wanting to die. 

Turncoat said: 

Med said: 

That was the worst thing about the religious souls in the hospitals. Someone close to me had made a threat of suicide and this horrible person who is supposed to be impartial and clinical even was saying the suicidal person would go to hell. It was a tech. No doctor would dare do that. I've actually experienced this more than once as a bystander.

For real I've seen this too (in general). How they even think lashing out like that is helping the suicidal person is messed up, when really it tends to be them airing out their shock at being confronted with a concept they have not put true depth into thinking about. How unprepared people are to talk about it ends up alienating the one ideating suicide, increasing the odds that they'll act on it. 

I've seen more suicidal people respond well to mirroring their grief while attempting to relate to their struggle, rather than rebuking as if they are weak and retarded for wanting to die. 

 You're both morons.

Downvoted by spatial again you know what I am willing to bet more than one member of this forum has been touched by suicidal attempt by family member 

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Hawk said: 

Turncoat said: 

Med said: 

That was the worst thing about the religious souls in the hospitals. Someone close to me had made a threat of suicide and this horrible person who is supposed to be impartial and clinical even was saying the suicidal person would go to hell. It was a tech. No doctor would dare do that. I've actually experienced this more than once as a bystander.

For real I've seen this too (in general). How they even think lashing out like that is helping the suicidal person is messed up, when really it tends to be them airing out their shock at being confronted with a concept they have not put true depth into thinking about. How unprepared people are to talk about it ends up alienating the one ideating suicide, increasing the odds that they'll act on it. 

I've seen more suicidal people respond well to mirroring their grief while attempting to relate to their struggle, rather than rebuking as if they are weak and retarded for wanting to die. 

 You're both morons.

No, you lack empathy. 

Suicide is selfish. This time it was intended as emotional blackmail.

Emily practiced magic ( I advised against this) and her original plan was to mess with Logan by flirting with all of his friends. She ended up catching feelings.

It backfired.

I don't believe she had their attention to begin with.

As for you TC. Your sympathy is the reward she gets for dealing with you. In a DM she in part blames you for her condition cause you're a complete dick and a waste of time.

Those who find attention in this type of drama will seek your sympathy this way. YOUR sympathy which doesn't really exist unless you look bad. She's right to dislike you.

Stupid people.

Golden_Eagle said: 

Suicide is selfish.

Spoken like someone who's never felt the urge beyond a passing moment of self-shame at most for having gone there. 

It's a desperate solution for pain, even just considering the option gives them more of a feeling of control over their own lives to the point that many psych themselves into not doing it, and for some that pain is chronic and exhausting, simply wanting a rest from it while seeing ending it all as the only answer left. 

People always try to angle the whole "But think about the people left behind who have to deal with your passing", which just lends to them socially isolating so that their death won't hurt as many people. This attitude people like you have against suicidal behavior is typically responsible for escalation, when all you have to do is be a decent, empathetic human being to otherwise not be responsible for pushing them over the edge. 

If people thought about Suicide more, we'd have a lot less suicidal contagion and lashing out over pure naiveté. People with these problems should have a platform to talk about it, either to air out the baggage or as a cry for help to get assistance, as otherwise it powder kegs until they do something about it in a moment of passion. 

This time it was intended as emotional blackmail.

It's a cry for help and she didn't know what else to do. 

She knows saying this stuff out loud is enough to get yourself put away in a ward, yet she said it anyway. 

As for you TC. Your sympathy is the reward she gets for dealing with you. In a DM she in part blames you for her condition cause you're a complete dick and a waste of time.

Am I supposed to stop sympathizing with her just because she enters her devaluing stage where she externalizes all blame? She can't help that shit, and frankly deserves sympathy as a victim here. 

I can see why she never called you her friend, even on one of her good days. 

Those who find attention in this type of drama will seek your sympathy this way. YOUR sympathy which doesn't really exist unless you look bad. She's right to dislike you.

Stupid people.

You really do lack empathy jeez.

I've always been empathetic and sympathetic towards suicidal ideation, people've been having me be their confidant in relation to it when they need to talk to someone to try to snap out of it from noticing how I am not rebuking their honesty (even one day strangers met at the club and shit). 

Suicide is a serious subject, and your solution is to be a dick about it. That's how you get people to kill themselves, and that you can't even understand basic chain reactions shows a lot about what cognitive functions you lack that your average layman might otherwise not. While most suicide attempts fail, most who've tried are liable to keep trying until it eventually succeeds... especially as long as this stigma continues. 

It ends up being seen as so shameful that they keep it to themselves until they explode, many really just need the room to talk about it to clear the cache and feel lighter again.