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I just started working on mine,  but you are claiming to have been "working on it for years"

compassionatequeen said: 

Turncoat said: 

compassionatequeen said: 

nope,  just the ones who are sham liars such as yourself

What am I even lying about? 

trying to deceive people into thinking shadow work is something that it is not 

What am I trying to tell people that shadow work is? 

shadow work is about acceptance

Literally said the same thing. 

and nonjudgmentalness

Only in relation to how judging yourself can get in the way of identifying problems, like how an anorexic thinking they have to get thinner to be pretty is preoccupied with their appearance to the point of having that problem keep the other one in motion. 

and you are behaving the exact opposite in this thread and being a horrible representation of someone who has supposedly been  "working on their shadow for years"

How so?

How different do you figure I am now compared to when I began working on myself? 

if you post anything more that is nonaccepting and judgmental in this thread I am going to not respond to it

this thread is now a safe space for people who take legitimate shadow work seriously

compassionatequeen said: 

I just started working on mine,  but you are claiming to have been "working on it for years"

Yeah, under a different name. 

Seriously, compare Shadow Work and Psychotherapy and the main separation is over spirituality. Both otherwise work to uncover what areas are limiting a person before applying strategies to solve them, Shadow Work just does it with magical realism instead of science. 

compassionatequeen said: 

if you post anything more that is nonaccepting and judgmental in this thread I am going to not respond to it

How would you even know if it was when all you're looking for is if they said 'yes'? 

this thread is now a safe space for people who take legitimate shadow work seriously

 /stays anyway

I love how you were unable to answer the questions, self absorption must be deafening. 

Once we begin to label parts of ourselves as ‘good’ and parts of ourselves as ‘bad’ we create a dangerous rift inside of our beings that further causes the growth of the shadow in the subconscious.

When we label ourselves as mentioned we create the belief within our subconscious minds that we are broken and unlovable and that we are not perfect just as we are.

The truth is that we are perfection just as we are.

We carry light and dark within us and the one cannot exist without the other.

Striving to be only a good person, a person of pure light, is futile and it will drain your energy and will cause more damage in the subconscious which means that one day when the pot can no longer hold the boiling liquid it will explode and your life will be turned upside down. This happens all the time to people who always seem to be surprised and shocked as to what has just happened.

Desiring only one side of something is like deciding that you prefer the sun and then vehemently denying the existence of the moon. Let’s just say that if you did this you will experience intense disappointment and heartbreak every time the moon shows up. And it will!

 

soo this happened to me yesterday,  but interestingly enough it has nothing to do with believing that I am perfect and beautiful and good and whole exactly the way that I am right now,  it has to do with still having had a lingering belief that I had to match other people's standards of "perfection and beautiful and good and whole" to be allowed to believe that am these things no matter what I behave like or say or do   which is a goal of mine-  I want to believe that I am perfect and beautiful and good and whole no matter what I behave like or say or do

because to me,  believing this is the ultimate freedom from labeling myself and other people as "bad",  and I think that labeling people as bad at all is part of the problem with human conditioning that we have not evolved past yet

it is essentially the idea of "perfectly imperfect",  although I am not imperfect at all,  but I will not be matching other people's standards of "perfection" because it is impossible to match those standards because perfection does not even exist unless you believe that everything is perfect which is like that total and complete unconditionally loving acceptance of yourself and other people and life itself being exactly the way that it is

but the interesting and insane thing is that different people have different beliefs on what perfection is,  these are just my own  (and actually many other people in the spiritual community's) beliefs  (I personally do not see any other beliefs on what perfection is to be accurate)

essentially my goal is to give myself that unconditional love and acceptance and rewarding myself for being perfect and good and whole and complete just exactly the way that I am and that other people should do that too,  because I am allowed to do that

so in summary it is not that I desire only good in my life,  it is that I am deciding to label everything about myself and about other people and about life as inherently good,  but I know that this is a controversial view lol  but this is my way of unconditionally loving and accepting everything about myself and other people and life exactly the way that it is  and I am doing this in an attempt to transcend my ego as much as possible

for Turncoat-  maybe try meditating on the difference between "striving to be a good person"  and "already being a good person exactly the way that you are"-  hint;  one is egoic,  and the other is unconditionally loving

if you would like to stay trapped in ego that is your own decision,  but you do not have the power to drag or force anyone else into doing that as well  and people like me would rather try to transcend being in ego as much as possible without like completely giving up close social relationships

being in ego is very much about good / bad in my opinion,  but what if everything was good ?  and I know that you are not going to understand and say things like drinking bleach is not good and stuff like that,  but I mean,  what if you just saw it as a fatal decision instead of "bad bad bad bad"  like a fucking caveman ?  you know lol,  like I just want us to evolve out of being in so much fear and hatred as a species

like bleach is not your fucking enemy,  but using it incorrectly could kill you and that does not make bleach "bad" or even dying itself "bad",  it just is,  and is-ing is perfect and beautiful and good,  and existing is perfect and beautiful and good  (and as far as dying,  I do not believe that our spirit ever stops existing personally and I see death more as transformation from this realm of existence into another realm of existence)

what you think dictates the quality of your life and your happiness

compassionatequeen said:

We carry light and dark within us and the one cannot exist without the other.

Striving to be only a good person, a person of pure light, is futile and it will drain your energy and will cause more damage in the subconscious which means that one day when the pot can no longer hold the boiling liquid it will explode and your life will be turned upside down. This happens all the time to people who always seem to be surprised and shocked as to what has just happened.

Desiring only one side of something is like deciding that you prefer the sun and then vehemently denying the existence of the moon. Let’s just say that if you did this you will experience intense disappointment and heartbreak every time the moon shows up. And it will!

Yes, this is essentially what I've been going on about before you started calling me ugly. 

compassionatequeen said: 

soo this happened to me yesterday,  but interestingly enough it has nothing to do with believing that I am perfect and beautiful and good and whole exactly the way that I am right now,  it has to do with still having had a lingering belief that I had to match other people's standards of "perfection and beautiful and good and whole" to be allowed to believe that am these things no matter what I behave like or say or do   which is a goal of mine-  I want to believe that I am perfect and beautiful and good and whole no matter what I behave like or say or do

To quote your own copy paste: 

Striving to be only a good person, a person of pure light, is futile and it will drain your energy and will cause more damage in the subconscious

Rather than trying to be those larger words, why not try to be content first? It's a good foundation to start from and makes the emotions less chaotic. 

because to me,  believing this is the ultimate freedom from labeling myself and other people as "bad",  and I think that labeling people as bad at all is part of the problem with human conditioning that we have not evolved past yet

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so in summary it is not that I desire only good in my life,  it is that I am deciding to label everything about myself and about other people and about life as inherently good

It's still you labeling good and bad, even if you decide to only use one of the words. The absence of good to you is taken as bad, rather than as anything else, so this still falls into the futility your copy paste discusses. 

What do you think the world would look like to someone who does not see the world through the terms of good and evil? What would still be there for them to see? 

essentially my goal is to give myself that unconditional love and acceptance and rewarding myself for being perfect and good and whole and complete just exactly the way that I am and that other people should do that too,  because I am allowed to do that

This still reads to me as you trying to find new words to remain unchanged, all of your paths profess that you shouldn't have to do anything from an inherently believed superiority that you believe you have over others. 

compassionatequeen said: 

 

it is essentially the idea of "perfectly imperfect",  although I am not imperfect at all

What is wrong with imperfection though? 

Why not learn to accept the imperfect? Is there something inherently wrong with not being perfect? 

I called you ugly because I was upset and slipped into egoic ways of thinking  (because I am not that practiced in transcending egoic ways of thinking yet since I just started practicing it and) because you were not understanding that the point of seeing everything as good and perfect is to not ignore or avoid anything about myself or about other people or about life,  but it is to not be judging any of it as "bad",  because as soon as you start judging people and things and even life itself as "bad"  all of a sudden you are in polarity instead of trying to integrate and keep things balanced

seeing everything as perfect and good takes away the polarity of "good / bad"  but you were not seeming to understand this and it really annoyed me  but then again maybe I just did not go into enough detail about this