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Hawk said: 

No I don't, as you say, ignore everything except the laughing. I gave you my opinion on the subject matter twice already.

Yeah, and reading it has you comment on how it'd be horrible if it were real, but since it isn't it's genius. Following that you go out of your way to invalidate her expressions of pain and continue to show a reluctance with allowing yourself to believe in something where you risk being wrong for thinking it. 

I clearly said the thing itself is hedious.

I never said you didn't. 

Okay cause you failed to mention as usual. That isn't enough though it is ?

 

It's also genius with an explination. For you that'd be a complement while the bad guys shouldn't ever be called so.

You continue to not explain it beyond "money", and you continue to not look further into his background.

I don't have to explain it really. Nothing will come of that. As for his background, I explained some stuff, how he distinctly says "I make videos to trigger people, even people who claim to never be triggered" Thre you go again.

As a reminder, he has you. And you're interested in learning all about him and you'll watch his videos, and you'll want to fence with me about it.

 

You've already written it off like you know the entire story and there's no room for you to explore it further it'd seem, all you'll do are personal attacks now. 

If I written it off like I know the whole story, you wouldn't actually know that. That's your problem, you think you know better to the point where you can dictate to me, that you know me better than I know myself. For shame.

 

I did read your reply but it's gone backward with assumptions and more questions, and it's too much work while I don't care to change your mind or win such an entagled debate that only produces more questions and assumptions.

Can you sum up the general themes I went on about to at least confirm for me that you read it, or did you lose focus? 

If I want, but get this.

Can you sum up the amount of times I said I'm not interested in long ass entangled replies that lead to nowhere ? One being in here. You sent me THREE replies to one.

The replies I purposefully cropped down to 4000 characters for your convenience, now you're using it as a platform to complain. 

I never asked for 12000 characters either.  

 



There is no pleasing you, and you cannot recount for me what I've been talking about because you aren't really engaging with it. 

I'm delighted actually. And I can. But I told you many times and I'll say it again. I laid my boundaries before.

1. A certain amount of intelligence is required to interact with me. Kinda like how a University professor has no time for a 5th grade intellect. Otherwise I'm talking about how many characters you used yet again. No substance.

2. Basically I don't want spam. Cause there isn't much substance in it for me. The low blows and snide remakes, and pettiness. These things are low vibrational and repulse me. 

 

If you lost focus that's fine, it's three posts long at 4000 characters each and I know you're a bit ADD (especially when you get ramped up). Admitting to that being the case as others have been able to do in the past for a breather however would help me know that that's what's going on and have more room to be patient with you and sympathize with the struggle

12000 characters is more than I'd waste time on. Have I not made that clear for years.

Quite the opposite, you've had discussions with long posts and have complained when your own posts get over 10k. 

LOL show me 1.

You complaining about posts being too long LOL. Lies again TC Lies again.

 



You only bring this up when you need an excuse, it's not a consistent problem. 

If it makes you feel better, you can say what you want, but really, it rubs me the wrong way. I want intellectual or wholesome interactions.

If this one being 7000 is also too much, let me know and I'll, for you, try to keep the posts to 2000 characters so that you don't get lost. 

This is why I ignore you most of the time. Conversations are so backward. Try again next year.

You can't even process it, wow.

I can process it, but the material is shit. There's no value in communicating with you. What's in it for me ? Are you going to fix me ? Make me all better, while you run around giving me a bad name like you usually do ? It's the last day don't you worry.

 



I can just go back to talking to Turquie if this is too much for you , she actually knows how to have a conversation. 

Pass on this one. No significance.

The paragraphs are also too fragmented, it's the road of stupid tbh, you can't hear and it get's more immature and ignorant on your end.

Can you really not follow trains of thought divided into sections? When I don't divide it you then complain that posts are too long, and you even get like this over other users. Even when it's formatted into what you've in the past ask for you just default on it being 'too stupid to bother with' just like Turquie does. 

I can but the material you produce doesn't keep me interested.  If I want I can put more effort into it.

I don't think you can over how you've yet to prove your ability to, even from other topics and even from other people. 

You cannot accept your own shortcomings, and my intolerance with that issue of yours is a shortcoming of my own. Hopefully one of us will get better. 

Well go around and preach that if it makes you feel better. Your issue with me comes from within. I'm not the triggered one here you are. I say I can, you insist I can't that's the how it played out here. Sabotage me, that's nothing new.

 

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Hey man. Let's just agree this is pointless.

To you I'm some ignorant ass who lacks empathy. To others I'm not.

Come now. Agree.

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So confirmed, you cannot tell the difference between when a troll is trolling and when they are showing something they don't think is a problem? 

lol Dude. From the bottom of my heart. The video is by design. That's what I gather.

But you won't even look further into it. 

I didn't want to think this shit was real either, even after seeing her very legit reactions to his behavior over hoping it wasn't the case, but while the guy does visit parody for views he's usually using it more to make what he's saying appear more okay to his target audience. He thinks he's challenging people to say what they really think rather than the PC script, and because of that he thinks that people are more okay with his ideas than they actually are. 

It is a common strategy for extremists now to cover their agenda with humor to get dog whistles out, and even his interview coaching a pedophile how to not get caught through methods similar to how he carries himself is problematic. You can see a clear difference between his comedy scripts and his more serious work. 

Why am I even bothering with this though, you can't read faces. I might as well be describing the color purple to someone born blind. All I can do is advise you look into Ekman's work. 

His haters watch him, some of his own subs and followers hate him. He even has you, Nathan. You're not going to forget him, and you're going to check him out again and again and again sooner or later. Brilliant.

See dude you're already getting to first names again, you need to work on your self control. 

Are you afraid of your own reflection too ? Like is somebody going to come to your house or something cause I said Nathan ? There's other Nathans out there don't you worry.

No, I just see that as you getting angry over how it's in the past led to you escalating and doxing and shit, and I purposefully don't use your first name to show that I am above your weakness in that area. 

It's patterns, you follow them. In this one area at least I seem to have more self control than you do. 

Seriously, we can't even talk about a Youtuber at this point without you losing your temper. I don't even say your first name in spite of it being public domain yet you keep going there over the smallest of things. 

You're projecting again.

You seriously think you're chill? 🤣

Among the two of us, only one of us has the capacity to admit to vulnerability and feelings. I have not been reluctant in showing how his material has inspired a reaction from me, that is the point of Art, but you show a reluctance in general with admitting to any feelings at all, even rewriting your own past to be as if you didn't have them for more pivotal events of your history here. 

If you need a break from this, just admit that, that's fine it's human to need breaks. 

I think I admitted that pages ago when I insisted I'm tired of these entangled messes.

You didn't, you just said you're tired. You then have proceeded to continue this dialogue with me which further expresses that you weren't going to take a break. 

Just say "I need a break, I'll come back later" and I'll respect that the same as I have for others on the site. I don't see why people would find shame in admitting to that either, it's a weird thing to feel ashamed of. 

There's something seriously wrong with you if you think how she displayed on camera was joy, this is you falling onto her "b-but she laughed in the video!" excuse. 

Why is it hard for you to even venture that it could be real? 

I can hear your voice cracking through the text.

You'll see her again, laughing and giggling while Max is being a dick. they've been doing it for awhile.

You can't answer the question, again, and then redirect to this idea you have in your head of her laughing at people. Do you not want to feel like Shaelin's laughing at you or something?

What's wrong with making a mistake of judgement over the situation, be it you or I who ended up on a different train of thought than the reality? Does this tie into your aversion to Questions and If again? 

I think it's planned out and made for a purpose, and that's to bring fame to this comedic/twisted artist. You'll assume that means I'm heartless or I'm a shitty person, while I'm not being played by Max's hand.

I didn't say that, you're putting words in my fingers again. 

You've insinuated that in this very thread. By your logic how I handle this makes me a shitty person. You also insinuated he makes a good role model. One of silly things you say. Now here you are attacking.

I did not call you a heartless and shitty person, I instead hoped that your calling him genius did not think it meant what it appeared to. You have since cleared up that you do not agree with this horrible person in spite of your past rhetoric giving reason to question it. I also did not call him a good role model, but rather an effective one over how there is a demographic responding to this positively rather than negatively.

If you thought I meant that he was a good role model when I've gone at length about how horrible he is then you are very very confused and lost

I've been saying that this reality seems too harsh for you to face, so you find a myriad of means to convince yourself that it's fake.

Okay Mr. smoke and mirrors schizotypal guy. 

More ad hom. 

You know it's bad when the schizophrenic has more of an idea over what's going on. 

If you'd even bother with a little background research on the dude you'd see that even his Pedo song is largely him trying to use comedy as a smokescreen, a strategy that's trended in a more mainstream way ala Sam Hyde from male extremists who don't want to feel silenced anymore. 

Well we're not talking about his pedo song are we. He is a really good artist though. Man can rhyme very well.

You specifically brought it up in this topic as justification for how 100% of his work is parody. 

Man wants you to hate him.

He thinks he's speaking the truth and that if he gets the word out that he can affect the social climate. 

As much as he does get off to it is not purely the infamy angle, and that angle in itself tends to come from a life of facing rejection, compensating over it to feel like a winner in spite of it. 

Me ? I'm not going to carry any resentment especially when I know he wants me to.

There it is again, it isn't even about if it's real or not to you so much as if they have the capacity to trick you. 

You're defensively all "YOU CAN'T FOOL ME!" to the point of fooling yourself. 🤦

They did what they did. It might not even last on youtube, but she'll be back. I advise you to stay away from his channel, it's not good for your coping capacity. Makes you bitter and sour on others. 

It's better than pretending it's not there, I can't just hide my head in the sand and rewrite history like you do to feel better. 

Seriously, you take displays of emotion as if they're pitiable weakness, when really your aim to bottle it all is the path to an early grave. It compounds stress and raises blood pressure to not let this stuff out, and not exposing yourself to the horrors of this world is how that bottling will powder keg.

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Okay you win. Let's agree now.

I love this avatar, so handsome 

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Hey man. Let's just agree this is pointless.

Past a point it becomes that, but there is a period where you have some capacity to listen. 

Where I need to learn is to look out for when you're no longer willing to take in new information. So far at least your frustration yielding you repeating my first name over and over again seems to be a decent indicator, but it's before then. 

To you I'm some ignorant ass who lacks empathy. To others I'm not.

You're welcome to find people who would say you have it, and if you don't lack empathy you at least have some form of Prosopagnosia or something. While I won't say no one would say it, I would love to see who would and their rationale for it. 

I had another friend with facial blindness actually, but he was much more humble about it. Rather than walking around assuming he knew everything already he'd instead try to be a bit more thorough as to pick up whatever cues he's missing. 

Okay you win. Let's agree now.

I love this avatar, so handsome 

Is this the Rum talking? 

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I'm sobre 

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I'm sobre 

Drinking would potentially explain some of your fumbles here... hm. 

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Just noticed the missed reply, answering it at the very least so you won't be all "And he didn't answer these points" or whatever: 

Hawk said: 

No I don't, as you say, ignore everything except the laughing. I gave you my opinion on the subject matter twice already.

Yeah, and reading it has you comment on how it'd be horrible if it were real, but since it isn't it's genius. Following that you go out of your way to invalidate her expressions of pain and continue to show a reluctance with allowing yourself to believe in something where you risk being wrong for thinking it. 

I clearly said the thing itself is hedious.

I never said you didn't. 

Okay cause you failed to mention as usual. That isn't enough though it is ?


As for his background, I explained some stuff, how he distinctly says "I make videos to trigger people, even people who claim to never be triggered" Thre you go again.

Apparently to you a comedian selling merch can't have real problems, which is pretty out there to believe when Comedians tend to be some of the most fucked up people in real life. 

When the discussion was over trying to have you explain his genius, it was not, which at this point has boiled down to "He has you all fooled", "He's done troll material before", "He sells merch", and "She laughed". You're more concerned with not feeling fooled than looking at the situation. 

It's also genius with an explination. For you that'd be a complement while the bad guys shouldn't ever be called so.

You continue to not explain it beyond "money", and you continue to not look further into his background.

I don't have to explain it really. Nothing will come of that.

Me asking further questions and noting your answers further into the topic would come of it. 

Again, what's your problem with asking questions? 

As a reminder, he has you. And you're interested in learning all about him and you'll watch his videos, and you'll want to fence with me about it.

You keep saying that but not explaining what's wrong with being pulled into a human interest situation. 

You've already written it off like you know the entire story and there's no room for you to explore it further it'd seem, all you'll do are personal attacks now. 

If I written it off like I know the whole story, you wouldn't actually know that. That's your problem, you think you know better to the point where you can dictate to me, that you know me better than I know myself. For shame.

Really, the "you don't know me" defense? 😆

Can you sum up the general themes I went on about to at least confirm for me that you read it, or did you lose focus? 

If I want, but get this.

Can you sum up the amount of times I said I'm not interested in long ass entangled replies that lead to nowhere ? One being in here. You sent me THREE replies to one.

The replies I purposefully cropped down to 4000 characters for your convenience, now you're using it as a platform to complain.

I never asked for 12000 characters either.  

Starting to feel like a tweet might be too much for you as this bit continues. 

There is no pleasing you, and you cannot recount for me what I've been talking about because you aren't really engaging with it.

I'm delighted actually. And I can. But I told you many times and I'll say it again. I laid my boundaries before.

1. A certain amount of intelligence is required to interact with me. Kinda like how a University professor has no time for a 5th grade intellect. Otherwise I'm talking about how many characters you used yet again. No substance.


If it makes you feel better, you can say what you want, but really, it rubs me the wrong way. I want intellectual or wholesome interactions.

You know Turquie says the exact same thing, right? 

Literally said it today. 

2. Basically I don't want spam. Cause there isn't much substance in it for me. The low blows and snide remakes, and pettiness. These things are low vibrational and repulse me.

Just because you can't comprehend it doesn't mean it's immediately spam or otherwise dumb, yet that's always where you go when it overstimulates you. 

If you lost focus that's fine, it's three posts long at 4000 characters each and I know you're a bit ADD (especially when you get ramped up). Admitting to that being the case as others have been able to do in the past for a breather however would help me know that that's what's going on and have more room to be patient with you and sympathize with the struggle

12000 characters is more than I'd waste time on. Have I not made that clear for years.

Quite the opposite, you've had discussions with long posts and have complained when your own posts get over 10k.

LOL show me 1.

...you really don't remember complaining about how you got over the 10k limit and couldn't be assed to edit it further as an excuse to stop our past discussions?

Dear god dude, you really blanked out all of our older talks.

I can just go back to talking to Turquie if this is too much for you , she actually knows how to have a conversation. 

Pass on this one. No significance.

What's in it for me ? Are you going to fix me ? Make me all better, while you run around giving me a bad name like you usually do ? It's the last day don't you worry.

You're literally going here from us trying to talk about a Youtuber, this is insane.

My literal presence triggers you now, it doesn't even matter what I'm talking about as long as it's from me to you anymore. I've been making an active effort to have it be discussion and you keep falling on old scars.

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When i first watched this video it triggered me pretty bad because i've been in a relationship that looked like that before, so i had to think about it for a while. 

I've never watched any of Mr. Girl's content besides this video and a livestream of him talking to Brittany Simon like a week ago, so I don't know much about him besides hearing about his "Cuties" video which i think sounds interesting and I like that he wants to make people uncomfortable. Also i like his beard.

So, my conclusion on this (after watching the other real doll video "First 8 Minutes") is that i think, and hope, the full RealDoll review is a satirical psychological horror film that explores the dark sides of technological advancement in the field of satisfying the human needs of love, sex, and connection through very transactional means. Maybe he is trying to show an exaggerated example of what can happen when a man is given access to a way to satisfy the need of physical intimacy without any boundaries or responsibility for another person's emotional needs. Leading him to lose even more connection with real humans (like his gf) due to the increasing lack of compassion and decreasing amount of patience he has for other people's needs in any exchange of intimacy.

But if he was being for real just totally honest in this video he is so psychologically abusive to her it's crazy. 

Also the girlfriend is so cute.

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Empath said: 

When i first watched this video it triggered me pretty bad because i've been in a relationship that looked like that before, so i had to think about it for a while. 

I've never watched any of Mr. Girl's content besides this video and a livestream of him talking to Brittany Simon like a week ago, so I don't know much about him besides hearing about his "Cuties" video which i think sounds interesting and I like that he wants to make people uncomfortable. Also i like his beard.

So, my conclusion on this (after watching the other real doll video "First 8 Minutes") is that i think, and hope, the full RealDoll review is a satirical psychological horror film that explores the dark sides of technological advancement in the field of satisfying the human needs of love, sex, and connection through very transactional means. Maybe he is trying to show an exaggerated example of what can happen when a man is given access to a way to satisfy the need of physical intimacy without any boundaries or responsibility for another person's emotional needs. Leading him to lose even more connection with real humans (like his gf) due to the increasing lack of compassion and decreasing amount of patience he has for other people's needs in any exchange of intimacy.

But if he was being for real just totally honest in this video he is so psychologically abusive to her it's crazy. 

Also the girlfriend is so cute.

ya it's real. are you familiar with brittany simon or do you watch destiny's streams?

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