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Buttered Toast said: 

Turncoat said: 

Buttered Toast said: 

 Ok, fine.  I'm sure you've prepared yourself for there being no answer or suggestion you will likely take, anyway

I have, but in the past jarring enough answers have made for change. 

Asking is worth the effort even if you do not believe in yourself. 

You must also realize how meta you're being.

Does that otherwise invalidate it? 

Put yourself in another's shoes and ask yourself what makes your perceptions any more valid. What concepts do you otherwise cling to, the 'Collective Reality'? 

I'm beginning to see moreso that the nature of one's perceptions carry move value than their validity, but that does not suddenly make my own beliefs less 'real'. This is moreover the coexistence with other people's seemingly nonsensical thoughts existing in such a way where I'm supposed to be okay with it. 

For how rigidly people hold onto their own thoughts, surely they see other people contradicting their own beliefs every day. Why are they more okay with it? 

However, where is this coming from specifically? 

Sheer repetition, I've gone here other times prior too. 

After such a point, how can I see myself as 'right' when enough say it's wrong, in spite of their own views looking nonsensical? 

If I can just call them crazy and ignore them, how would I be any better than Spatial Mind? 

There's something tangled up when you say people are responsible for themselves and also how you get invested in people, the human experience, etc.  Would your activity be classified as the "unsolicited" sort?  (I'm sure there will be all sorts of opinion on that, but what's yours?)

If they're making topics in a public space and asking for replies, I'd figure that they are looking for more than enablers. 

Little do I know, every time. 

Blue_Jay said: 

That instructor was a 2D animator that worked for Disney, but her scenes never made the final cut. She carried her bitterness on her sleeve which brings me to my point.

Have you seen how different Disney applications are than other companies when it comes to their artists? 

Turncoat said: 

Blue_Jay said: 

That instructor was a 2D animator that worked for Disney, but her scenes never made the final cut. She carried her bitterness on her sleeve which brings me to my point.

Have you seen how different Disney applications are than other companies when it comes to their artists? 

 No. I was never interested in working at Disney, besides at the time Disney would outsource their work to other studios. Maybe they still do, not really interested.

Turncoat said: 

Buttered Toast said: 

Turncoat said: 

Buttered Toast said: 

 Ok, fine.  I'm sure you've prepared yourself for there being no answer or suggestion you will likely take, anyway

I have, but in the past jarring enough answers have made for change. 

Asking is worth the effort even if you do not believe in yourself. 

You must also realize how meta you're being.

Does that otherwise invalidate it? 

Put yourself in another's shoes and ask yourself what makes your perceptions any more valid. What concepts do you otherwise cling to, the 'Collective Reality'? 

I'm beginning to see moreso that the nature of one's perceptions carry move value than their validity, but that does not suddenly make my own beliefs less 'real'. This is moreover the coexistence with other people's seemingly nonsensical thoughts existing in such a way where I'm supposed to be okay with it. 

For how rigidly people hold onto their own thoughts, surely they see other people contradicting their own beliefs every day. Why are they more okay with it? 

Okay, so you're noticing the gripe you're having is of the flavor similar to what is triggering it.

However, where is this coming from specifically? 

Sheer repetition, I've gone here other times prior too. 

After such a point, how can I see myself as 'right' when enough say it's wrong, in spite of their own views looking nonsensical? 

If I can just call them crazy and ignore them, how would I be any better than Spatial Mind? 

There's something tangled up when you say people are responsible for themselves and also how you get invested in people, the human experience, etc.  Would your activity be classified as the "unsolicited" sort?  (I'm sure there will be all sorts of opinion on that, but what's yours?)

If they're making topics in a public space and asking for replies, I'd figure that they are looking for more than enablers. 

Little do I know, every time. 

 "Asking for replies" might be something you take as implicit more than it actually is.  It might just be for attention or to make a statement or something otherwise not really looking to debate on, but you'll take as a matter for discourse.  (Blanc might be a good example.)

...Really, I see nothing that's going to be offered to you that will give you enough to stop being critical.  The way the problem is already set up -- the nature and history of yourself, the way default people tend to be, etc. -- appears self-defeating.  So, this is more a matter of you managing the reactions of people and whatever way that has you feel and react.

So, what is the part that actually sucks for you?  The disdainful reactions?  Questioning your own nature?

Blue_Jay said: 

Turncoat said: 

Blue_Jay said: 

That instructor was a 2D animator that worked for Disney, but her scenes never made the final cut. She carried her bitterness on her sleeve which brings me to my point.

Have you seen how different Disney applications are than other companies when it comes to their artists? 

 No. I was never interested in working at Disney, besides at the time Disney would outsource their work to other studios. Maybe they still do, not really interested.

Their applications ask for people who can do carbon copies of things, rather than innovations. 

I saw people applying for it and all they wanted was how well they could reproduce another's work. 

Buttered Toast said:

So, what is the part that actually sucks for you? The disdainful reactions? Questioning your own nature?

The repetition. 

Turncoat said: 

Buttered Toast said:

So, what is the part that actually sucks for you? The disdainful reactions? Questioning your own nature?

The repetition. 

 Being a slave to your own nature?

Buttered Toast said: 

Turncoat said: 

Buttered Toast said:

So, what is the part that actually sucks for you? The disdainful reactions? Questioning your own nature?

The repetition. 

 Being a slave to your own nature?

Pretty much, or more accurately others being slaves to theirs. 

The nature of one's cunning would be over the ability to thrive from seeing things, but most of that capacity tends to be disingenuous. Honesty with vision tends to be taken as criticism and critics have a harder road ahead of them. 

Turncoat said: 

Blue_Jay said: 

Turncoat said: 

Blue_Jay said: 

That instructor was a 2D animator that worked for Disney, but her scenes never made the final cut. She carried her bitterness on her sleeve which brings me to my point.

Have you seen how different Disney applications are than other companies when it comes to their artists? 

 No. I was never interested in working at Disney, besides at the time Disney would outsource their work to other studios. Maybe they still do, not really interested.

Their applications ask for people who can do carbon copies of things, rather than innovations. 

I saw people applying for it and all they wanted was how well they could reproduce another's work. 

 Whatever can be done to be productive and get away with it.

Working as an animator is rarely if ever, the worker expressing their own creativity.

Turncoat said: 

Buttered Toast said: 

Turncoat said: 

Buttered Toast said:

So, what is the part that actually sucks for you? The disdainful reactions? Questioning your own nature?

The repetition. 

 Being a slave to your own nature?

Pretty much. 

It's a powerful filtration system, but it leads to finding the people that really appreciate you in an honest way.  And while it sucks to be compelled to do this and the feelings of alienation, creating a sort of causality loop, perhaps you can mitigate some of this by remembering where the most value of your efforts go -- where it matters more and any feeling of repetition or being who you are is better understood.