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You reacting like anyone being criticized.

I don't think being critical and questioning is often a good route to get information. It puts people on the defensive, and you get more of what sort of things they will say to efface their image, rather than getting to know their inner workings through osmosis over time. Being critical seems most fruitful with the right persons or at the right times, or when there's no way around it. I have a feeling this may resonate to you as "disingenuous," but really, unless you have Tourette syndrome there is a steady stream of consciousness you only verbalize to a point.

Buttered Toast said: 

You reacting like anyone being criticized.

I did it first though, and I do it chronically. 

It's literally what I'm known for to the point of little else being identifying beyond convenience, as if my critique hides my identity. 

Turncoat said: 

Buttered Toast said: 

You reacting like anyone being criticized.

I did it first though, and I do it chronically. 

It's literally what I'm known for to the point of little else being identifying beyond convenience, as if my critique hides my identity. 

 That's how you're seeing it right now.  It's not how I see you, but how I see you reacting rn.

Tryptamine said: 

I don't think being critical and questioning is often a good route to get information. It puts people on the defensive, and you get more of what sort of things they will say to efface their image, rather than getting to know their inner workings through osmosis over time.

I grew up used to people who could take it, it's jarring to see how many can't. My group of friends in school were able to take critique and my degree literally put us all through it for every class related to our major so it became normal. 

I then face others who didn't go through that and they see me as some sort of horrible person for making them ask questions. Obviously the questions make them uncomfortable but after so many it's moreover how they associate me with uncomfortable questions, but I'm like "How are you not supposed to ask them these things?". 

Being critical seems most fruitful with the right persons or at the right times, or when there's no way around it. 

You're actually an interesting example in that you have the same urge, but you'll play along with those 'too weak' to participate. 

I struggle to play along once something they've said is questionable, not even 'wtf' tier. 

I have a feeling this may resonate to you as "disingenuous," but really, unless you have Tourette syndrome there is a steady stream of consciousness you only verbalize to a point.

Exactly, it's a bunch of lies people tell each other to feel more comfortable, and the more aware of this process that they are the more that they are a disingenuous person. Ignorance when it comes to this is the only bliss one can hope for, as it becomes entirely meta past that. 

I get that exposure to a person is supposed to have them codependently adapt off of what purpose you serve for them, but if someone is expressing a problem area then isn't my omission even more of a disservice? I'd prefer people tell me what I'm doing wrong even if I don't internalize it over that being the quote unquote "Better Way To Be". 

Buttered Toast said: 

Turncoat said: 

Buttered Toast said: 

You reacting like anyone being criticized.

I did it first though, and I do it chronically. 

It's literally what I'm known for to the point of little else being identifying beyond convenience, as if my critique hides my identity. 

 That's how you're seeing it right now.  It's not how I see you, but how I see you reacting rn.

You're one of the few here who are actually looking to be criticized, you're pre-biased to accept my methods much like a college art student. 

Apparently the layman can't take it and that leaves me bitter. There are points where being mean has been the goal but even my trying to be helpful is taken identically. 

Turncoat said: 

Buttered Toast said: 

Turncoat said: 

Buttered Toast said: 

You reacting like anyone being criticized.

I did it first though, and I do it chronically. 

It's literally what I'm known for to the point of little else being identifying beyond convenience, as if my critique hides my identity. 

 That's how you're seeing it right now.  It's not how I see you, but how I see you reacting rn.

You're one of the few here who are actually looking to be criticized, you're pre-biased to accept my methods much like a college art student. 

Apparently the layman can't take it and that leaves me bitter. There are points where being mean has been the goal but even my trying to be helpful is taken identically. 

 Are you pouting, basically?

Turncoat said: 

Buttered Toast said: 

Turncoat said: 

Buttered Toast said: 

You reacting like anyone being criticized.

I did it first though, and I do it chronically. 

It's literally what I'm known for to the point of little else being identifying beyond convenience, as if my critique hides my identity. 

 That's how you're seeing it right now.  It's not how I see you, but how I see you reacting rn.

You're one of the few here who are actually looking to be criticized, you're pre-biased to accept my methods much like a college art student. 

Apparently the layman can't take it and that leaves me bitter. There are points where being mean has been the goal but even my trying to be helpful is taken identically. 

Most of your criticisms are either false or unhelpful anyway. You think im terms of absolutes and is  inflexible.

Turncoat said:

I grew up used to people who could take it, it's jarring to see how many can't. My group of friends in school were able to take critique and my degree literally put us all through it for every class related to our major so it became normal. 

I then face others who didn't go through that and they see me as some sort of horrible person for making them ask questions. Obviously the questions make them uncomfortable but after so many it's moreover how they associate me with uncomfortable questions, but I'm like "How are you not supposed to ask them these things?".

It seems uncommon that people are willing to be so confrontational in that way, and I use the word confrontation because at times that's what being critical can be, if you're challenging how their mind itself works. I don't think you'd be associated with this if it was a common thing.

You're actually an interesting example in that you have the same urge, but you'll play along with those 'too weak' to participate. 

I struggle to play along once something they've said is questionable, not even 'wtf' tier.

I don't see this as wrong. It reminds me of the YouTuber/streamer MrGirl and his dislike of not talking about the metaconversation or opaque things going on, even if people dislike it, or it creates awkwardness. The strength of that being a lot of deep and unusual discourse happens. The downside being that some people get defensive and shut down.

My playing along is often more a position of suspension of judgment that extends from my view that everyone operates under their own set of rules, and theirs are often unimportant to me because they're transient parts of my life. I can possibly learn from them or try to persuade them, or reason with them if I like them, but their minds are mostly things I interact with because of circumstance, and often my goal is to keep things flowing smoothly. Less so here, but even here I don't usually prioritize hardball over amicability.

Exactly, it's a bunch of lies people tell each other to feel more comfortable. 

I get that exposure to a person is supposed to have them codependently adapt off of what purpose you serve for them, but if someone is expressing a problem area then isn't my omission even more of a disservice? I'd prefer people tell me what I'm doing wrong even if I don't internalize it over that being the quote unquote "Better Way To Be". 

It's a matter of degrees when it comes to omissions. There must be times where you say nothing, no?