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Dima79 said: 
Xena said: 
LiYang said:

Now they hire kontraktniki out of gulags and feed them dog food. They lie to those boys and don't bother to train them properly.

most Russian contractors (kontraktniki) serve in the army simply because they have not been able to find work in their towns and villages. they were not mentally prepared for a war with Ukraine. all the more knowing that casualties among the civilian population are inevitable in a war. many Russians have relatives living in Ukraine. you can justify yourself when you kill neo-Nazi militants who have Nazi tattoos on their bodies and consider Bandera a hero, despite the fact that he called for the massacre of Russians, Poles and Jews during World War II, but in most cases you have to fight with soldiers of the Ukrainian army, who are not fans of Hitler and Bandera and who joined the army for the same reason as you.

lol I am a paranoid schizophrenic. suspiciousness is my characteristic and conspiracy theories are my hobby. why do you rule out the possibility that the world elite simply bought Putin? Gorbachev and Yeltsin clearly worked for the Americans. their goal was to destroy the Soviet Union. Putin came to power because Yeltsin appointed him as his successor. Putin started a war in Ukraine to destroy the Russian Federation. he is just a puppet of the world elite. :)

 hmm interesting...do you think the Nazi narrative is failing in Russia? I've met many Ukrainians the past few months. Their absolute anger and hatred of Putin is the starkest characteristic they share. They'll fight to the absolute end. 

I don't see a world elite except possibly among the trillionaires. It may exist but by shear numbers it can't (shouldn't) succeed. Putin has been fighting a long game though and he has been wildly successful at tearing apart the West. It's fucked up to see so called Western/freedom lovers suddenly backing Putin over liberal democracy - just cause Russian propaganda convinced them their side lost cause things have been stolen. He's played into manufactured grievances and his efforts to divide western societies has worked to a large degree.      

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Actually, western leaders are just greedy. That fucking dupe over the Azovstal warriors proved it.

Other Azov fighters throughout the country had a plan to storm in and get them out.

But fucking Macron and Scholz ffs. They have Pooptin's hands so far up their arses, their heads bobble every time the fucker wills it.

Fucking gas and oil junkies.

Yeah, I'm furious about the inflation, too. We have our own supply. We could even replace Russia as a main supplier.

But OPEC agreed to this garbage. GAH.

 

And I still say we should send NATO forces.

Like all of them

Kick those vile child raping orcs out of Ukraine properly.

Like Desert Storm. 4 weeks, tops.

'Superior Russian firepower' will be nothing but a horrible memory for at least a generation.

I am in full agreement with the Ukrainians and then some.

If I were 25 years younger, I would have joined one of those foreign volunteer batalions, that's how UTTERLY WRONG this war is.

The Ukrainians are where the Czechs and the Poles were in 1937.

They have to win, or Ruzzian greed will just swallow up Europe.

 

 

Btw, did you see my post about Cawk?

There's a yt channel where they show pics of war criminals and ask for help catching them.

I could almost swear that one of the vile shits who went around Bucha raping children was Cawk.

It would not surprise me in the least if that fucking squishy turd went and fought with the Ruzzians just so he could rape.

But fuck that slimeball. He's dead.

Some angry mother probably ended him. And good fucking riddance.

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Xena said: 

Actually, western leaders are just greedy. That fucking dupe over the Azovstal warriors proved it.

Other Azov fighters throughout the country had a plan to storm in and get them out.

But fucking Macron and Scholz ffs. They have Pooptin's hands so far up their arses, their heads bobble every time the fucker wills it.

Fucking gas and oil junkies.

Yeah, I'm furious about the inflation, too. We have our own supply. We could even replace Russia as a main supplier.

But OPEC agreed to this garbage. GAH.

And I still say we should send NATO forces.

Like all of them

Kick those vile child raping orcs out of Ukraine properly.

Like Desert Storm. 4 weeks, tops.

'Superior Russian firepower' will be nothing but a horrible memory for at least a generation.

I am in full agreement with the Ukrainians and then some.

If I were 25 years younger, I would have joined one of those foreign volunteer batalions, that's how UTTERLY WRONG this war is.

The Ukrainians are where the Czechs and the Poles were in 1937.

They have to win, or Ruzzian greed will just swallow up Europe.

 Yeah, NATO is weak af and Putin has been playing them for $. Sad part is Ukrainians are not puppets but pawns but they have surprised everyone. 

I also think it's funny Canada is pretending they aren't in the war when we've had special forces fighting there the whole time.

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last edit on 6/24/2022 5:10:09 AM
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Well Daddy Justin... Master of Subtext and Shade  ;)

Our guys are actually volunteers. They don't have the official backing of the Canadian government.

If they get caught, they'll get tortured to death as 'mercenaries.'

So let's hope none of them ever get caught.

 

Our volunteers do make up the second biggest foreign force.

The Poles are the biggest foreign fighting force over there rn. Because they know. 

They remember the 1930s well.

And they don't want to see it happen again if they can help to stop it.

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Dima79 said: 
Xena said: 
LiYang said:

Now they hire kontraktniki out of gulags and feed them dog food. They lie to those boys and don't bother to train them properly.

most Russian contractors (kontraktniki) serve in the army simply because they have not been able to find work in their towns and villages. they were not mentally prepared for a war with Ukraine. all the more knowing that casualties among the civilian population are inevitable in a war. many Russians have relatives living in Ukraine. you can justify yourself when you kill neo-Nazi militants who have Nazi tattoos on their bodies and consider Bandera a hero, despite the fact that he called for the massacre of Russians, Poles and Jews during World War II, but in most cases you have to fight with soldiers of the Ukrainian army, who are not fans of Hitler and Bandera and who joined the army for the same reason as you.

lol I am a paranoid schizophrenic. suspiciousness is my characteristic and conspiracy theories are my hobby. why do you rule out the possibility that the world elite simply bought Putin? Gorbachev and Yeltsin clearly worked for the Americans. their goal was to destroy the Soviet Union. Putin came to power because Yeltsin appointed him as his successor. Putin started a war in Ukraine to destroy the Russian Federation. he is just a puppet of the world elite. :)

 hmm interesting...do you think the Nazi narrative is failing in Russia? I've met many Ukrainians the past few months. They're absolute anger and hatred of Putin is the starkest characteristic they share. They'll fight to the absolute end. 

I don't see a world elite except possibly among the trillionaires. It may exist but by shear numbers it can't (shouldn't) succeed. Putin has been fighting a long game though and he has been wildly successful at tearing apart the West. It's fucked up to see so called Western/freedom lovers suddenly backing Putin over liberal democracy - just cause Russian propaganda convinced them their side lost cause things have been stolen. He's played into manufactured grievances and his efforts to divide western societies has worked to a large degree.      

So the Donbas people do not deserve their freedom from tyranny? They don't deserve the choice of Government?

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LiYang said: 
Xena said: 

Read your own article before you post.

It says:  "a court which is not internationally recognised, in the so-called Donetsk People's Republic (DPR)."

 

That guy is a legit member of the Ukraine National Guard, btw. He's been living there for quite some time, and is married to a Ukrainian lady.

The dumb dumbs who put him on trial aren't even consistent with the laws they're inventing.

Consistency would require that they put every citizen of Ukraine on trial for fighting back.

Just duh.

 

It's not a win until the rest of the world recognizes it as such.

This is a puppet court ruled by inconsistent psychos.

Just because YOU or the Leftist BBC or the international Lefties don't agree to legitimacy does not make the court illegitimate. lol such arrogance.

The court happened and the guys will be executed. Putin won the independence of the Donbas region. Accept facts.

 

 i feel like you're just actually covid personified, trying too hard to convince us it's not real so u can infect us all. are you in fact a virus in human form?

This thought crossed my mind also. It's like reverse psychology of free will. you have free will?

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The Nazi narrative seems as strong as ever from what I've been watching.

There are Russian youtubers who do man-on-the-street interviews about it all the time.

Official polls say Pooptin's popularity is over 80%

But these yt polls suggest more like a 50/50 split, along the same demographic lines as supporters of Pumpkinhead's narratives in the US.

So old, college dropout, working class, male, looking for somebody to blame for crime, homos, poc and his own failed attempts at becoming a millionaire.

Russian women are a good deal more likely to toe the party line than American women, tho.

 

The big difference was happening on the battlefield, with the soldiers.

No matter what kind of shitty personality people have, a surprising percentage of them didn't want to go and kill or be killed for a lie like that.

A good percentage of them do still want their deaths to have some meaning, if nothing else.

 

Smthg has shifted in the last 2 weeks, tho. The Ruzzians have become more bloodthirsty.

Maybe it's bc Pooptin's telling them they've won?

Or maybe it's bc everything is such a hideous pile of ruins that they've disconnected concepts like "families" and "homes" from the hellscape bc there is nothing homey, and therefore nothing human left for them to behave honourably for?

Maybe the new batch of conscripts is just from a region where soldiers think vile acts are ok? Who knows?

 

W/e the explanations are for the Ruzzians behaviour, I still think the Ukrainians will kick ass.

They just got their new weapons shipments  :)

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LiYang said: 
Dima79 said: 
Xena said: 
LiYang said:

Now they hire kontraktniki out of gulags and feed them dog food. They lie to those boys and don't bother to train them properly.

most Russian contractors (kontraktniki) serve in the army simply because they have not been able to find work in their towns and villages. they were not mentally prepared for a war with Ukraine. all the more knowing that casualties among the civilian population are inevitable in a war. many Russians have relatives living in Ukraine. you can justify yourself when you kill neo-Nazi militants who have Nazi tattoos on their bodies and consider Bandera a hero, despite the fact that he called for the massacre of Russians, Poles and Jews during World War II, but in most cases you have to fight with soldiers of the Ukrainian army, who are not fans of Hitler and Bandera and who joined the army for the same reason as you.

lol I am a paranoid schizophrenic. suspiciousness is my characteristic and conspiracy theories are my hobby. why do you rule out the possibility that the world elite simply bought Putin? Gorbachev and Yeltsin clearly worked for the Americans. their goal was to destroy the Soviet Union. Putin came to power because Yeltsin appointed him as his successor. Putin started a war in Ukraine to destroy the Russian Federation. he is just a puppet of the world elite. :)

 hmm interesting...do you think the Nazi narrative is failing in Russia? I've met many Ukrainians the past few months. They're absolute anger and hatred of Putin is the starkest characteristic they share. They'll fight to the absolute end. 

I don't see a world elite except possibly among the trillionaires. It may exist but by shear numbers it can't (shouldn't) succeed. Putin has been fighting a long game though and he has been wildly successful at tearing apart the West. It's fucked up to see so called Western/freedom lovers suddenly backing Putin over liberal democracy - just cause Russian propaganda convinced them their side lost cause things have been stolen. He's played into manufactured grievances and his efforts to divide western societies has worked to a large degree.      

So the Donbas people do not deserve their freedom from tyranny? They don't deserve the choice of Government?

 about 30% of the Donbas region were Russian so they are not in the majority. It's like if 30% of Alaska wanted to join Canada - should the rest of Alaska roll over and become Canadian? 

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LiYang said: 
Dima79 said: 
Xena said: 
LiYang said:

Now they hire kontraktniki out of gulags and feed them dog food. They lie to those boys and don't bother to train them properly.

most Russian contractors (kontraktniki) serve in the army simply because they have not been able to find work in their towns and villages. they were not mentally prepared for a war with Ukraine. all the more knowing that casualties among the civilian population are inevitable in a war. many Russians have relatives living in Ukraine. you can justify yourself when you kill neo-Nazi militants who have Nazi tattoos on their bodies and consider Bandera a hero, despite the fact that he called for the massacre of Russians, Poles and Jews during World War II, but in most cases you have to fight with soldiers of the Ukrainian army, who are not fans of Hitler and Bandera and who joined the army for the same reason as you.

lol I am a paranoid schizophrenic. suspiciousness is my characteristic and conspiracy theories are my hobby. why do you rule out the possibility that the world elite simply bought Putin? Gorbachev and Yeltsin clearly worked for the Americans. their goal was to destroy the Soviet Union. Putin came to power because Yeltsin appointed him as his successor. Putin started a war in Ukraine to destroy the Russian Federation. he is just a puppet of the world elite. :)

 hmm interesting...do you think the Nazi narrative is failing in Russia? I've met many Ukrainians the past few months. They're absolute anger and hatred of Putin is the starkest characteristic they share. They'll fight to the absolute end. 

I don't see a world elite except possibly among the trillionaires. It may exist but by shear numbers it can't (shouldn't) succeed. Putin has been fighting a long game though and he has been wildly successful at tearing apart the West. It's fucked up to see so called Western/freedom lovers suddenly backing Putin over liberal democracy - just cause Russian propaganda convinced them their side lost cause things have been stolen. He's played into manufactured grievances and his efforts to divide western societies has worked to a large degree.      

So the Donbas people do not deserve their freedom from tyranny? They don't deserve the choice of Government?

 The Russian speaking Pooptin supporters in Donbas can move to Russia if they don't like the country they're in.

There is no tyranny. Only a bunch of shit stirring separatists who could (and should) just fuck off to Moscow or wherever if they don't like where they are.

 

It's not up to the people who already lived there to change for the invaders.

 

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Xena without the usual disrespect but I think there is a bigger picture that western leaders are seeing. If helping Ukraine and starting ww3 or fucking up the world economy VS. giving half of Ukraine to putin is an easy choice for you towards helping Ukraine it is probably right that you are a redacted. You know choices have many different kinds of results.. If prices go up 40 percent in the US or Germany we will be pissed but kinda fine... People in other parts of the world will just starve and die. Things are not as easy and linear as you might think. 

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