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In this case regardless of who's side anyone takes we're oddly unanimous as a forum so far that they ought to separate. 

 This is arguably the more salient point as regards anything to do with our involvement in this debacle.  (Even when we agree, we argue about how we agree.)

 maybe our involvement could involve being somewhat compassionate too

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Good said: 

I mean delora is not very credible either lol

In fact, BR sounds more credible

Not that I take either side, but dont just blindly trust delora

Random rape accusations only when they have a fight are just as sus.

 but how do u not address them when they're made? if someone accused you of rape amongst some other more minor infractions, would you not address the rape thing first, if not only?

it's like cs deciding to pursue a relationship with chapo or trip after what they said she did to/around her child. makes it obvious they're most likely telling the truth

You seek reason, where reason is lacking lol

Idk why either of them does the things they do, never said its not sus that BR didnt address those things either, it is sus

Cheery bye!
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Good said: 
Good said: 

I mean delora is not very credible either lol

In fact, BR sounds more credible

Not that I take either side, but dont just blindly trust delora

Random rape accusations only when they have a fight are just as sus.

 but how do u not address them when they're made? if someone accused you of rape amongst some other more minor infractions, would you not address the rape thing first, if not only?

it's like cs deciding to pursue a relationship with chapo or trip after what they said she did to/around her child. makes it obvious they're most likely telling the truth

You seek reason, where reason is lacking lol

Idk why either of them does the things they do, never said its not sus that BR didnt address those things either, it is sus

 i like spotting liars. i've been hearing from when they first got together he was beating her. i specifically remember someone making some kinda joke like 'when BR beats delora does it really count' but can't remember who it was. spite maybe?

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An irrelevant conclusion,[1] also known as ignoratio elenchi (Latin for 'ignoring refutation') or missing the point, is the informal fallacy of presenting an argument that may or may not be logically valid and sound, but (whose conclusion) fails to address the issue in question. It falls into the broad class of relevance fallacies.[2]

The irrelevant conclusion should not be confused with formal fallacy, an argument whose conclusion does not follow from its premises, instead, it is that despite its formal consistency it is not relevant to the subject being talked about.

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Lenalee said: 

Not sure if I agree with this, even though shit seems like it gets super rocky for them both.

As far as I know it's the first serious adult relationship for the both of them, so instead of having past relationships to draw experience from, they're hashing it out in a marriage. That's not always a bad thing, I've known and known of some people who get married to their high school sweethearts and end up making that work permanently somehow.

 Honestly i don't think this one is going to work out very well. 

This is much worse than simple inexperience dude, it's been a saga of suffering. 

 Like your life has been? Remember the times you've threatened to kill yourself, or "attempted" for attention?

I'd take this over BR's life, that shit looks fucking rough. 

 ha ha ha! You're the last person who should give advice, let alone relationship advice. People in glass houses. Before you became entangled with your sc gf, you still had a chance, Turnip. You finished school, were working and were somewhat functional, you probably had some goals, idk?  But now, after years in a toxic relationship, you're broken. Your barometer for abuse is projected onto others and you can't seem to face your own. Your gf has driven you to multiple suicide attempts, mocked you publicly, cheated on you over and over, irl and on the SC and still does, forced you to sleep with a prostitute and disrespects you. You're just a toy to control.  

It's sad tc. You say BR has it fucking rough but you've been reduced to a 30+ year olds, gender-confused invalid, living at home, collecting welfare that your gf controls and manages, while she plays games at your expense. Your interference in BR and delogre's relationship is weird and creepy. I'm picking up victim/trauma bonding vibes. 

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Lenalee said: 

Not sure if I agree with this, even though shit seems like it gets super rocky for them both.

As far as I know it's the first serious adult relationship for the both of them, so instead of having past relationships to draw experience from, they're hashing it out in a marriage. That's not always a bad thing, I've known and known of some people who get married to their high school sweethearts and end up making that work permanently somehow.

 Honestly i don't think this one is going to work out very well. 

This is much worse than simple inexperience dude, it's been a saga of suffering. 

 Like your life has been? Remember the times you've threatened to kill yourself, or "attempted" for attention?

I'd take this over BR's life, that shit looks fucking rough. 

 ha ha ha! You're the last person who should give advice, let alone relationship advice. People in glass houses. Before you became entangled with your sc gf, you still had a chance, Turnip. You finished school, were working and were somewhat functional, you probably had some goals, idk?  But now, after years in a toxic relationship, you're broken. Your barometer for abuse is projected onto others and you can't seem to face your own. Your gf has driven you to multiple suicide attempts, mocked you publicly, cheated on you over and over, irl and on the SC and still does, forced you to sleep with a prostitute and disrespects you. You're just a toy to control.  

It's sad tc. You say BR has it fucking rough but you've been reduced to a 30+ year olds, gender-confused invalid, living at home, collecting welfare that your gf controls and manages, while she plays games at your expense. Your interference in BR and delogre's relationship is weird and creepy. I'm picking up victim/trauma bonding vibes. 

 She didn't force him to sleep with a prostitute, that's been debunked.

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Lenalee said: 

Not sure if I agree with this, even though shit seems like it gets super rocky for them both.

As far as I know it's the first serious adult relationship for the both of them, so instead of having past relationships to draw experience from, they're hashing it out in a marriage. That's not always a bad thing, I've known and known of some people who get married to their high school sweethearts and end up making that work permanently somehow.

 Honestly i don't think this one is going to work out very well. 

This is much worse than simple inexperience dude, it's been a saga of suffering. 

 Like your life has been? Remember the times you've threatened to kill yourself, or "attempted" for attention?

I'd take this over BR's life, that shit looks fucking rough. 

 ha ha ha! You're the last person who should give advice, let alone relationship advice. People in glass houses. Before you became entangled with your sc gf, you still had a chance, Turnip. You finished school, were working and were somewhat functional, you probably had some goals, idk?  But now, after years in a toxic relationship, you're broken. Your barometer for abuse is projected onto others and you can't seem to face your own. Your gf has driven you to multiple suicide attempts, mocked you publicly, cheated on you over and over, irl and on the SC and still does, forced you to sleep with a prostitute and disrespects you. You're just a toy to control.  

It's sad tc. You say BR has it fucking rough but you've been reduced to a 30+ year olds, gender-confused invalid, living at home, collecting welfare that your gf controls and manages, while she plays games at your expense. Your interference in BR and delogre's relationship is weird and creepy. I'm picking up victim/trauma bonding vibes. 

Thats extremely kinky tho

Cheery bye!
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Lenalee said: 
Lenalee said: 

Not sure if I agree with this, even though shit seems like it gets super rocky for them both.

As far as I know it's the first serious adult relationship for the both of them, so instead of having past relationships to draw experience from, they're hashing it out in a marriage. That's not always a bad thing, I've known and known of some people who get married to their high school sweethearts and end up making that work permanently somehow.

 Honestly i don't think this one is going to work out very well. 

This is much worse than simple inexperience dude, it's been a saga of suffering. 

 Like your life has been? Remember the times you've threatened to kill yourself, or "attempted" for attention?

I'd take this over BR's life, that shit looks fucking rough. 

 ha ha ha! You're the last person who should give advice, let alone relationship advice. People in glass houses. Before you became entangled with your sc gf, you still had a chance, Turnip. You finished school, were working and were somewhat functional, you probably had some goals, idk?  But now, after years in a toxic relationship, you're broken. Your barometer for abuse is projected onto others and you can't seem to face your own. Your gf has driven you to multiple suicide attempts, mocked you publicly, cheated on you over and over, irl and on the SC and still does, forced you to sleep with a prostitute and disrespects you. You're just a toy to control.  

It's sad tc. You say BR has it fucking rough but you've been reduced to a 30+ year olds, gender-confused invalid, living at home, collecting welfare that your gf controls and manages, while she plays games at your expense. Your interference in BR and delogre's relationship is weird and creepy. I'm picking up victim/trauma bonding vibes. 

 She didn't force him to sleep with a prostitute, that's been debunked.

lmao I heard he fucked a thai twink and she paid for it

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Lenalee said: 
Lenalee said: 
Lenalee said: 

Not sure if I agree with this, even though shit seems like it gets super rocky for them both.

As far as I know it's the first serious adult relationship for the both of them, so instead of having past relationships to draw experience from, they're hashing it out in a marriage. That's not always a bad thing, I've known and known of some people who get married to their high school sweethearts and end up making that work permanently somehow.

 Honestly i don't think this one is going to work out very well. 

This is much worse than simple inexperience dude, it's been a saga of suffering. 

 Like your life has been? Remember the times you've threatened to kill yourself, or "attempted" for attention?

I'd take this over BR's life, that shit looks fucking rough. 

 Ah let's not pretend it's just BRs life that's rough. He's just as much been shitty to his wife and downplaying what's happened. You're biased as fuck when it's about people you like.

I figured saying I'd rather be me than Delora didn't require explaining, I wouldn't wish that persona on my worst enemy. 

Also someone needs to take his position for the sake of balance in lieu of proof, without my doing so people just default to hers. 

Buddy, you're biased as fuck because you're not even going about how he's downplaying the fact that he stole money from his wife to buy shrooms that that they had planned to take and experience together. Its literally all about him. He talks about talking to other women when he's angry with her and I'm pretty sure that falls under emotional cheating. He initiates sex and keeps it going after she's said no, that her body reacts and she stops fighting it to get it over with doesn't mean she's given consent it just means she's not fighting. 

We don't even know how much of what she's saying is real when she's both a chronic liar and an unreliable narrator. I've otherwise given 'the talk' to what I thought was BR but then it just turned out to be her so I don't even know anymore. 

He doesn't try to deceive so much, so he has more credibility to me. 

 I'm not a chronic liar

You've lied to me a lot this week over what portions can be proven, I have no reason to trust you now. 

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Lenalee said: 
Lenalee said: 

Not sure if I agree with this, even though shit seems like it gets super rocky for them both.

As far as I know it's the first serious adult relationship for the both of them, so instead of having past relationships to draw experience from, they're hashing it out in a marriage. That's not always a bad thing, I've known and known of some people who get married to their high school sweethearts and end up making that work permanently somehow.

 Honestly i don't think this one is going to work out very well. 

This is much worse than simple inexperience dude, it's been a saga of suffering. 

 Like your life has been? Remember the times you've threatened to kill yourself, or "attempted" for attention?

I'd take this over BR's life, that shit looks fucking rough. 

 ha ha ha! You're the last person who should give advice, let alone relationship advice. People in glass houses. Before you became entangled with your sc gf, you still had a chance, Turnip. You finished school, were working and were somewhat functional, you probably had some goals, idk?  But now, after years in a toxic relationship, you're broken. Your barometer for abuse is projected onto others and you can't seem to face your own. Your gf has driven you to multiple suicide attempts, mocked you publicly, cheated on you over and over, irl and on the SC and still does, forced you to sleep with a prostitute and disrespects you. You're just a toy to control.  

It's sad tc. You say BR has it fucking rough but you've been reduced to a 30+ year olds, gender-confused invalid, living at home, collecting welfare that your gf controls and manages, while she plays games at your expense. Your interference in BR and delogre's relationship is weird and creepy. I'm picking up victim/trauma bonding vibes. 

 She didn't force him to sleep with a prostitute, that's been debunked.

lmao I heard he fucked a thai twink and she paid for it

 Yeah, but he chose to do it, she didn't force him to 

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