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Tryptamine said: 

Not sure if I agree with this, even though shit seems like it gets super rocky for them both.

As far as I know it's the first serious adult relationship for the both of them, so instead of having past relationships to draw experience from, they're hashing it out in a marriage. That's not always a bad thing, I've known and known of some people who get married to their high school sweethearts and end up making that work permanently somehow.

 but he's beating and raping her..i think that changes things beyond 'hashing it out'

Lenalee said: 

Turncoat said: 

Cavalier said: 

Turncoat said: 

Lenalee said: 

Tryptamine said: 

Not sure if I agree with this, even though shit seems like it gets super rocky for them both.

As far as I know it's the first serious adult relationship for the both of them, so instead of having past relationships to draw experience from, they're hashing it out in a marriage. That's not always a bad thing, I've known and known of some people who get married to their high school sweethearts and end up making that work permanently somehow.

 Honestly i don't think this one is going to work out very well. 

This is much worse than simple inexperience dude, it's been a saga of suffering. 

 Like your life has been? Remember the times you've threatened to kill yourself, or "attempted" for attention?

I'd take this over BR's life, that shit looks fucking rough. 

 Ah let's not pretend it's just BRs life that's rough. He's just as much been shitty to his wife and downplaying what's happened. You're biased as fuck when it's about people you like.

 not just when he likes them but when it's about a biological woman being harmed in some way he's all for it, frothing at the mouth to make arguments in favor of her not getting any sympathy or validation

At this point she's gone as far as to log into his Discord and pretend to be him confessing to get him in trouble. 

If it's a real problem with raping and beating on the regular, or if it's her not understanding something and taking it to this extreme, both outcomes would have me ready for divorce. Even before the raping/beating this shit's been a toxic story, and being separated is the most likely path towards Harm Reduction. 

Neither of them seem happy, and I have more of a penchant to take BR's side over how he isn't 'The Boy Who Cried Wolf' trying to manipulate things and spread lies to the point that the truths are harder to tell. He by comparison is a straight shooter when it comes to talking and gives much more realistic portrayals. 

Turncoat said: 

Lenalee said: 

Turncoat said: 

Cavalier said: 

Turncoat said: 

Lenalee said: 

Tryptamine said: 

Not sure if I agree with this, even though shit seems like it gets super rocky for them both.

As far as I know it's the first serious adult relationship for the both of them, so instead of having past relationships to draw experience from, they're hashing it out in a marriage. That's not always a bad thing, I've known and known of some people who get married to their high school sweethearts and end up making that work permanently somehow.

 Honestly i don't think this one is going to work out very well. 

This is much worse than simple inexperience dude, it's been a saga of suffering. 

 Like your life has been? Remember the times you've threatened to kill yourself, or "attempted" for attention?

I'd take this over BR's life, that shit looks fucking rough. 

 Ah let's not pretend it's just BRs life that's rough. He's just as much been shitty to his wife and downplaying what's happened. You're biased as fuck when it's about people you like.

I figured saying I'd rather be me than Delora didn't require explaining, I wouldn't wish that persona on my worst enemy. 

Also someone needs to take his position for the sake of balance in lieu of proof, without my doing so people just default to hers. 

 Buddy, you're biased as fuck because you're not even going about how he's downplaying the fact that he stole money from his wife to buy shrooms that that they had planned to take and experience together. Its literally all about him. He talks about talking to other women when he's angry with her and I'm pretty sure that falls under emotional cheating. He initiates sex and keeps it going after she's said no, that her body reacts and she stops fighting it to get it over with doesn't mean she's given consent it just means she's not fighting. 

Turncoat said: 

At this point she's gone as far as to log into his Discord and pretend to be him confessing to get him in trouble. 

If it's a real problem with raping and beating on the regular, or if it's her not understanding something and taking it to this extreme, both outcomes would have me ready for divorce. Even before the raping/beating this shit's been a toxic story, and being separated is the most likely path towards Harm Reduction. 

Neither of them seem happy. 

 Post proof??

If it's br saying that he did something you're still as likely to say it must be her. You have a history of downplaying abuse when it's people you like. This wouldn't be a surprising take from you.

Lenalee said: 

Turncoat said: 

Lenalee said: 

Turncoat said: 

Cavalier said: 

Turncoat said: 

Lenalee said: 

Tryptamine said: 

Not sure if I agree with this, even though shit seems like it gets super rocky for them both.

As far as I know it's the first serious adult relationship for the both of them, so instead of having past relationships to draw experience from, they're hashing it out in a marriage. That's not always a bad thing, I've known and known of some people who get married to their high school sweethearts and end up making that work permanently somehow.

 Honestly i don't think this one is going to work out very well. 

This is much worse than simple inexperience dude, it's been a saga of suffering. 

 Like your life has been? Remember the times you've threatened to kill yourself, or "attempted" for attention?

I'd take this over BR's life, that shit looks fucking rough. 

 Ah let's not pretend it's just BRs life that's rough. He's just as much been shitty to his wife and downplaying what's happened. You're biased as fuck when it's about people you like.

I figured saying I'd rather be me than Delora didn't require explaining, I wouldn't wish that persona on my worst enemy. 

Also someone needs to take his position for the sake of balance in lieu of proof, without my doing so people just default to hers. 

Buddy, you're biased as fuck because you're not even going about how he's downplaying the fact that he stole money from his wife to buy shrooms that that they had planned to take and experience together. Its literally all about him. He talks about talking to other women when he's angry with her and I'm pretty sure that falls under emotional cheating. He initiates sex and keeps it going after she's said no, that her body reacts and she stops fighting it to get it over with doesn't mean she's given consent it just means she's not fighting. 

We don't even know how much of what she's saying is real when she's both a chronic liar and an unreliable narrator. I've otherwise given 'the talk' to what I thought was BR but then it just turned out to be her so I don't even know anymore. 

He doesn't try to deceive so much, so he has more credibility to me. 

the fact that he didn't voluntarily address the rape accusations is sus af

Turncoat said: 

Lenalee said: 

Turncoat said: 

Lenalee said: 

Turncoat said: 

Cavalier said: 

Turncoat said: 

Lenalee said: 

Tryptamine said: 

Not sure if I agree with this, even though shit seems like it gets super rocky for them both.

As far as I know it's the first serious adult relationship for the both of them, so instead of having past relationships to draw experience from, they're hashing it out in a marriage. That's not always a bad thing, I've known and known of some people who get married to their high school sweethearts and end up making that work permanently somehow.

 Honestly i don't think this one is going to work out very well. 

This is much worse than simple inexperience dude, it's been a saga of suffering. 

 Like your life has been? Remember the times you've threatened to kill yourself, or "attempted" for attention?

I'd take this over BR's life, that shit looks fucking rough. 

 Ah let's not pretend it's just BRs life that's rough. He's just as much been shitty to his wife and downplaying what's happened. You're biased as fuck when it's about people you like.

I figured saying I'd rather be me than Delora didn't require explaining, I wouldn't wish that persona on my worst enemy. 

Also someone needs to take his position for the sake of balance in lieu of proof, without my doing so people just default to hers. 

Buddy, you're biased as fuck because you're not even going about how he's downplaying the fact that he stole money from his wife to buy shrooms that that they had planned to take and experience together. Its literally all about him. He talks about talking to other women when he's angry with her and I'm pretty sure that falls under emotional cheating. He initiates sex and keeps it going after she's said no, that her body reacts and she stops fighting it to get it over with doesn't mean she's given consent it just means she's not fighting. 

We don't even know how much of what she's saying is real when she's both a chronic liar and an unreliable narrator. I've otherwise given 'the talk' to what I thought was BR but then it just turned out to be her so I don't even know anymore. 

He doesn't try to deceive so much, so he has more credibility to me. 

 He has tried to deceive in that he makes puppets and claims they aren't him until he messes up and finally admits to it. Do you remember how he lied about breaking her phone to look cool for the forum? He's literally just admitted to talking to other women when he's mad at his wife.

Lenalee said: 

Turncoat said: 

At this point she's gone as far as to log into his Discord and pretend to be him confessing to get him in trouble. 

If it's a real problem with raping and beating on the regular, or if it's her not understanding something and taking it to this extreme, both outcomes would have me ready for divorce. Even before the raping/beating this shit's been a toxic story, and being separated is the most likely path towards Harm Reduction. 

Neither of them seem happy. 

 Post proof??

It's not my responsibility to prove his personal life to you if he wishes to keep it private. While I may be meddling I seldom leak things, at this point having just tried to say enough to show there's more than one story while planting my feet enough to have it not be swept under the rug from hers being so prolific with a duration behind it. It's also not hard to be biased after meeting them IRL when only one of them is coherent while the other one is literally out of control and yelling at the top of her lungs in public. 

The only real "proof" I have since Delora reading his convo with me could grant her just as much room to quote it as it having been her the entire time is BR's alias going back and forth between saying if it is or isn't him while one of them makes claims the other one doesn't believe later. This could just as easily be BR pretending it was her to avoid the proof of said confession but looking over the chat again has a lot of her hints being dropped in it, to such a point I started calling her out on it the second time she tried. If we're to believe past stories from them too then clearly they're "Just Trolling lolol, we don't really know their lives they just fuck with us for fun". 

I have text of the BR account claiming back-to-back to not be Delora and then that it was Delora, that's what I'm working with now. 

If it's br saying that he did something you're still as likely to say it must be her. You have a history of downplaying abuse when it's people you like. This wouldn't be a surprising take from you.

He outright said it twice and then she'd log on to say "Actually that was me", then he logs on again like "No it's not wtf!". She did it a minimum of two times and has only stopped from him taking the steps to log out of his account with a stronger password before handing it to her. 

My advice is they need divorce regardless of the rape/beating scenario, as regardless of if it's true or false it's shitty enough for one of them that they shouldn't have to stick through it. 

I also am prone to looking at the less popular view to see if it holds water, rather than just boarding the drama llama's bandwagon. There's always more than one side to a story and it pays to see what the unpopular perspective is as well before forming conclusions. 

Lenalee said: 

Turncoat said: 

Lenalee said: 

Turncoat said: 

Lenalee said: 

Turncoat said: 

Cavalier said: 

Turncoat said: 

Lenalee said: 

Tryptamine said: 

Not sure if I agree with this, even though shit seems like it gets super rocky for them both.

As far as I know it's the first serious adult relationship for the both of them, so instead of having past relationships to draw experience from, they're hashing it out in a marriage. That's not always a bad thing, I've known and known of some people who get married to their high school sweethearts and end up making that work permanently somehow.

 Honestly i don't think this one is going to work out very well. 

This is much worse than simple inexperience dude, it's been a saga of suffering. 

 Like your life has been? Remember the times you've threatened to kill yourself, or "attempted" for attention?

I'd take this over BR's life, that shit looks fucking rough. 

 Ah let's not pretend it's just BRs life that's rough. He's just as much been shitty to his wife and downplaying what's happened. You're biased as fuck when it's about people you like.

I figured saying I'd rather be me than Delora didn't require explaining, I wouldn't wish that persona on my worst enemy. 

Also someone needs to take his position for the sake of balance in lieu of proof, without my doing so people just default to hers. 

Buddy, you're biased as fuck because you're not even going about how he's downplaying the fact that he stole money from his wife to buy shrooms that that they had planned to take and experience together. Its literally all about him. He talks about talking to other women when he's angry with her and I'm pretty sure that falls under emotional cheating. He initiates sex and keeps it going after she's said no, that her body reacts and she stops fighting it to get it over with doesn't mean she's given consent it just means she's not fighting. 

We don't even know how much of what she's saying is real when she's both a chronic liar and an unreliable narrator. I've otherwise given 'the talk' to what I thought was BR but then it just turned out to be her so I don't even know anymore. 

He doesn't try to deceive so much, so he has more credibility to me. 

 He has tried to deceive in that he makes puppets and claims they aren't him until he messes up and finally admits to it.

Him and Delora'd do that together half the time, the other half him wanting an outlet to talk here over music and photography usually. The only deception of those accounts was him concealing who he is, the content was otherwise very obviously him. 

Do you remember how he lied about breaking her phone to look cool for the forum? He's literally just admitted to talking to other women when he's mad at his wife.

It happened once from what I've heard years back, and that was inspired from an argument where she said he couldn't find someone else other than her. He'd since never done it again and repeatedly beats himself up over it as justification for everything she's done since.