In truth I wouldn't give "a friend" flowers, because that would/could be misleading and do more damage than good.
Not even congratulation flowers?
I gave a friend a flower on Valentine’s Day cause her bf broke up with her the day before.
If all it took were some flowers lol.
True, it strongly depends on who's giving them and why.
Some have the tendency to act like whoever they give flowers to owes them something they're entitled to for having done it, which is fucking gross. It should just be about getting flowers, they smell nice and brighten a room.Women want romantic gifts from someone she'll bang, and guys give romantic gifts while trying to score. If she rejects him, then he's better off sucking it up and pulling the same stunt on the next woman he falls for.
If that's the only reason you get flowers and stuff for people then that's why you're not getting any as a result of the gesture.
Ha ha ha. There you go assuming I don't get any, and perverting the reasons behind my good deeds and tokens of appreciation.
No, I'm just saying why flowers in particular don't seem to work for you. Usually if someone's trying to buy another's love the price tag's a bit higher than a bouquet, but if you're aiming to get there without being sleazy then flowers are effective at harboring good vibes.
There you go again. I don't recall saying whether this is something that never worked for me or not.
In truth I wouldn't give "a friend" flowers, because that would/could be misleading and do more damage than good.
If you expect the flowers to only be about sex, then yeah, it's going to seem weird to people who are used to expecting that sort of reasoning from you.
I'd totally expect random out of the blue flowers to be about sex. Or rather a symbol of being a member who partakes in sex.
If the sex isn't good it's not going to work out for either party. Still I can see how someone in a body cast might appreciate a pot of daisies on the window sill with a stack of cards and helium balloons.
This thread is geared toward romantic relationships by the way. When Men give a woman flowers, it's a strategy, because he wants to be more than friends. Of course it's a novelty approach and not really required to make it to 3rd base.
Flowers are just a tool, it's all about the intent behind it.
It's more like an ice breaker wrapped within a considerate gesture of beauty, but as it can be for putting makeup on a pig it's won't always make up for their being a pig come the end of the day.
When you're sitting there devising 'strategies' you're already making it that much less genuine.
By your logic, it's disingenuous to give flowers to someone you want to form a romantic and sexual bond with. That Flowers are just to seal friendships, and a man devising strategies to land a date is inherently bad behavior.
I talked about this a number of times, but what defines a creep, is if she's attracted to him or not plus her reaction. If not his new creep label "might" come from her, some women are cooler than others.
In my personal experience none of my girls ever cared about flowers.
In mine it's been a good gesture every time, both giving and receiving. 😉
Flowers are just a tool, it's the intent behind them that counts.If someone gave me flowers I might appreciate that come to think of it. I'd surely laugh.
Yeah, flowers feel good and they're simple, but again they're a tool.
If someone for example only bought flowers as a way of saying "Sorry" to someone, the flowers are going to start to acquire a different meaning once there's enough to fill a garden.
In general a straight man wouldn't give flowers to a member of the same gender as an apology. In this case it's more likely a man would give a woman flowers as an apology. Like when she's mad at him and hot giving it up anymore lol.
I find it hard to imagine someone gave you flowers, or you giving anyone else flowers.
Really? Why?
Cause you're a dick. And anyone here who saw you around within the past decade would concur. You don't suspect I'd view you as someone worthy or praise do you ?
With that I'd say what Feathers wants is not really about flowers, but more about affectionate expressions.
Also a sense of power and a free car.
No. This is another aspect. Something women want in romance.
What do you mean?
Affection.
In truth I wouldn't give "a friend" flowers, because that would/could be misleading and do more damage than good.
Not even congratulation flowers?
Not even. I give chains or some electronic device or gadget.
You wanna know what's funny. I tell people don't expect anything from me for Christmas, and I don't get anything for Christmas, not that I care.
I do better than Christmas throughout the year and I still get nothing. This is just an observation, I don't really care about receiving presents when everyone else is. I don't care about gifting Flowers either, they'll be dead soon.
If all it took were some flowers lol.
True, it strongly depends on who's giving them and why.
Some have the tendency to act like whoever they give flowers to owes them something they're entitled to for having done it, which is fucking gross. It should just be about getting flowers, they smell nice and brighten a room.Women want romantic gifts from someone she'll bang, and guys give romantic gifts while trying to score. If she rejects him, then he's better off sucking it up and pulling the same stunt on the next woman he falls for.
If that's the only reason you get flowers and stuff for people then that's why you're not getting any as a result of the gesture.
Ha ha ha. There you go assuming I don't get any, and perverting the reasons behind my good deeds and tokens of appreciation.
No, I'm just saying why flowers in particular don't seem to work for you. Usually if someone's trying to buy another's love the price tag's a bit higher than a bouquet, but if you're aiming to get there without being sleazy then flowers are effective at harboring good vibes.
There you go again. I don't recall saying whether this is something that never worked for me or not.
If all it took were some flowers lol.
Spatial Mind said:In my personal experience none of my girls ever cared about flowers.
Spatial Mind said:Ha ha ha. There you go assuming I don't get any, and perverting the reasons behind my good deeds and tokens of appreciation.
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When Men give a woman flowers, it's a strategy, because he wants to be more than friends.
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If all it took were some flowers lol.
True, it strongly depends on who's giving them and why.
Some have the tendency to act like whoever they give flowers to owes them something they're entitled to for having done it, which is fucking gross. It should just be about getting flowers, they smell nice and brighten a room.Women want romantic gifts from someone she'll bang, and guys give romantic gifts while trying to score. If she rejects him, then he's better off sucking it up and pulling the same stunt on the next woman he falls for.
If that's the only reason you get flowers and stuff for people then that's why you're not getting any as a result of the gesture.
Ha ha ha. There you go assuming I don't get any, and perverting the reasons behind my good deeds and tokens of appreciation.
No, I'm just saying why flowers in particular don't seem to work for you. Usually if someone's trying to buy another's love the price tag's a bit higher than a bouquet, but if you're aiming to get there without being sleazy then flowers are effective at harboring good vibes.
There you go again. I don't recall saying whether this is something that never worked for me or not.
If all it took were some flowers lol.
Spatial Mind said:In my personal experience none of my girls ever cared about flowers.Spatial Mind said:Ha ha ha. There you go assuming I don't get any, and perverting the reasons behind my good deeds and tokens of appreciation.
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When Men give a woman flowers, it's a strategy, because he wants to be more than friends.
To make it easier for you. I never bought flowers or gave them to anyone in my life. I don't believe in it.
You thought I did and decided to gloat about how wonder it's been for you. ( I still think you're full of shit )
If all it took were flowers, I'd buy them all the time and maybe save a bundle.
I give them skittles and other things.
In truth I wouldn't give "a friend" flowers, because that would/could be misleading and do more damage than good.
If you expect the flowers to only be about sex, then yeah, it's going to seem weird to people who are used to expecting that sort of reasoning from you.
I'd totally expect random out of the blue flowers to be about sex. Or rather a symbol of being a member who partakes in sex.
Oh, that's, I feel sorry for those who'll give you flowers out of the kindness of their heart solely.
Would you go as far as to say you'd feel misled by being given flowers when they don't want to bang? Would that make it their fault?
If the sex isn't good it's not going to work out for either party. Still I can see how someone in a body cast might appreciate a pot of daisies on the window sill with a stack of cards and helium balloons.
You really have a thing about sex, don't you..?
This thread is geared toward romantic relationships by the way. When Men give a woman flowers, it's a strategy, because he wants to be more than friends. Of course it's a novelty approach and not really required to make it to 3rd base.
Flowers are just a tool, it's all about the intent behind it.
It's more like an ice breaker wrapped within a considerate gesture of beauty, but as it can be for putting makeup on a pig it's won't always make up for their being a pig come the end of the day.
When you're sitting there devising 'strategies' you're already making it that much less genuine.By your logic, it's disingenuous to give flowers to someone you want to form a romantic and sexual bond with. That Flowers are just to seal friendships, and a man devising strategies to land a date is inherently bad behavior.
I tend to try to be friends with whoever I'm dating, so the two go hand-in-hand, but that's not really my point solely.
It's just a nice thing to do, like adding a ribbon to a present. It enhances wherever it's accompanying, but sometimes that enhancement on it's own isn't enough.
I talked about this a number of times, but what defines a creep, is if she's attracted to him or not plus her reaction.
This is just incel bitterness, you're completely negating how attraction forms in the first place.
Like Friedrich said earlier today over the Delora situation, it's really a matter of context. Ignoring factors of attractiveness, confidence, and the general aspects of charisma that have the tendency to streamline towards the layman, who you are to that person gauges a lot of what is and isn't treated as normal. The creep factor comes from pushing boundaries that the other person has not mutually agreed upon, and guys can pick up on creep factor that other dudes are expressing at women even when it's for some reason working that night on someone insecure enough to find themselves stuck with him.
Haven't you ever questioned why gay dudes tend to have more luck grabbing women's chests or spanking them as they pass by at parties than their straight counterparts, on average? It's because they aren't seen as a thirsty threat, immediately upping how friendly they seem by a ton. Being a friend is a way to be disarming to someone, and flowers can be disarming through a similar vein.
If not his new creep label "might" come from her, some women are cooler than others.
You seriously sound bitter about the word 'creep', it's creeping into your language.
In my personal experience none of my girls ever cared about flowers.
In mine it's been a good gesture every time, both giving and receiving. 😉
Flowers are just a tool, it's the intent behind them that counts.If someone gave me flowers I might appreciate that come to think of it. I'd surely laugh.
Yeah, flowers feel good and they're simple, but again they're a tool.
If someone for example only bought flowers as a way of saying "Sorry" to someone, the flowers are going to start to acquire a different meaning once there's enough to fill a garden.In general a straight man wouldn't give flowers to a member of the same gender as an apology. In this case it's more likely a man would give a woman flowers as an apology. Like when she's mad at him and hot giving it up anymore lol.
My point is moreover flowers being a symbol, and symbols have a lot of power based on how they're used.
Still, very telling that you had to turn 'apology' into more mating ideas. I'd venture that the reason why the women you find are probably 'gold digging' as you'd put it is over a mutual sense of socializing being transactional, a series of tradeoffs.
I find it hard to imagine someone gave you flowers, or you giving anyone else flowers.
Really? Why?
Cause you're a dick. And anyone here who saw you around within the past decade would concur. You don't suspect I'd view you as someone worthy or praise do you?
I don't know about 'anyone', but it's very telling that your go to for judging someone's character is based around a bandwagon rather than their individual merits.
What you call a dick in one hand could be seen as 'brazen honesty' in another, it really depends on who's looking. In this life it's better to be yourself rather than playing some 'strategy', all the while seeking out mutual company who's bound to understand where you're coming from.
"Netflix and Chill" can be romantic if you actually care about what the other person thinks, rather than just a waiting room situation for sex. If you're just doing all of these gestures for a little nookie you might as well just hire a prostitute, at least that'd be a cut and dry transaction where you don't have to bother to learn anything more than the script you'll both be following.
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To make it easier for you. I never bought flowers or gave them to anyone in my life. I don't believe in it.
Considering how much you've perverted the symbol of something as innocent as flowers I don't blame you.
You don't strike me as confident enough anyway, considering how many justifications you carry over how they're just 'gold diggers' who want to 'use you' and all that.
You thought I did and decided to gloat about how wonder it's been for you.
I'm just going with what you give me. 🤷
( I still think you're full of shit )
Starting to sound like Envy, you can't even believe I've been given flowers.
It's not that weird to receive flowers dude, I got them for doing theater productions and people I've dated have been the sorts of people who want to spread beauty around (plus got a mild kick out of the gender norm reversal).
If all it took were flowers, I'd buy them all the time and maybe save a bundle.
You really have a thing about flowers...
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To make it easier for you. I never bought flowers or gave them to anyone in my life. I don't believe in it.
Considering how much you've perverted the symbol of something as innocent as flowers I don't blame you.
I never did such a thing. If anything I pointed out what Feathers really wants and I was right about that.
You don't strike me as confident enough anyway, considering how many justifications you carry over how they're just 'gold diggers' who want to 'use you' and all that.
I never said anything of the sort. Ever. Not even when it came to Feathers and her BF wanting to give her a car.
As for being rejected in my days. I've often stated that rejection is a part of manhood.
You thought I did and decided to gloat about how wonder it's been for you.
I'm just going with what you give me. 🤷
Of course. With your usual twist.
( I still think you're full of shit )
Starting to sound like Envy, you can't even believe I've been given flowers.
Why would it sound like envy when I gave you a reason why I can't imagine it ?
It's not that weird to receive flowers dude, I got them for doing theater productions and people I've dated have been the sorts of people who want to spread beauty around (plus got a mild kick out of the gender norm reversal).
Well I gift other things, and I'm not worried about being gifted things.
If all it took were flowers, I'd buy them all the time and maybe save a bundle.
You really have a thing about flowers...
lol Okay, if you say so.
Kill the Flowers ! All of them !
You thought I did and decided to gloat about how wonder it's been for you.
I'm just going with what you give me. 🤷
Of course. With your usual twist.
He has already fixed the narrative before he's seen your response. Trying to change his mind is impossible once he does that. However, I do stand behind what I said about TC having his redeeming qualities. He's a good person.
Leftover-Lena steps to boyfriend:
1 Stop talking about me;
2 Stop being repulsive;
3 Change underwear >1 month;
4 Find people in your league
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