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Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

How about not participating ?

Also. I think God is more delighted with us, when we do refrain from sin without asking for the power to do it.

I've seen quite the opposite from The Bible personally. 

The expression "God helps those who help themselves" isn't even Biblical, it's Greek. 

 That doesn't change my mind, nor does it have anything to do with what I said.

I just don't see any proof for it, Christianity seems to more so if anything embrace asking for help and accepting ourselves as meek. 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

How about not participating ?

Also. I think God is more delighted with us, when we do refrain from sin without asking for the power to do it.

I've seen quite the opposite from The Bible personally. 

The expression "God helps those who help themselves" isn't even Biblical, it's Greek. 

 That doesn't change my mind, nor does it have anything to do with what I said.

I just don't see any proof for it, Christianity seems to more so if anything embrace asking for help and accepting ourselves as meek. 

 So you think when we overcome temptation without asking for help it would displease the Lord. You're entitled to your own opinion, though I personally think your bias approach to the Bible keeps you highly prone to folly.

Spatial Mind said: 

How about not participating ?

Also. I think God is more delighted with us, when we do refrain from sin without asking for the power to do it.

Spatial you have this completely wrong! but many people get it wrong, it is something that can be called "Lordship salvation", works-based salvation, or self-righteousness salvation (a false doctrine)

No, the strength we ask for should always come from Jesus,  Jesus is our strength and righteousness, we do not have spiritual strength or righteousness of our own it all comes from Jesus, as do all of the fruits of the Spirit

Psalm 105:4

4 Seek the Lord, and his strength: seek his face evermore.

Matthew 26:41

41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

not meaning to be preachy sorry if I offended you, here is a male-written article about Lordship salvation

https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Doctrines/Lordship%20Salvation/ls.htm

Philippians 3:9

9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:


2 Corinthians 5:21

21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

basically anything pure and holy and good, and wisdom I always ask Jesus for, because I do not trust in my own self-perceived ownership of any if these

Galatians 5:22-23

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Philippians 4:8

8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

I didn't mean to attack you I just got excited, because I used to be confused on this too and on feeling like I wasn't "good enough" to be a Christian, because I was always relying on my own strength and willpower and character traits (and a lot of times lack thereof) instead of Jesus's which led to a lot of self-esteem issues and depression, and I actually left the christian faith when I was in highschool because I did not understand this

Romans 8:9

9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Galatians 2:20

20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

basically I rely and depend on Jesus for everything now as a christian, because on my own practically nothing was good enough about me I haven't even been able to work a job in 5 years and am just now starting to be able to be functional enough again because of Jesus's holy spirit in me

JesusistheKing said: 

 

Spatial Mind said: 

How about not participating ?

Also. I think God is more delighted with us, when we do refrain from sin without asking for the power to do it.

 Spatial you have this completely wrong! but many people get it wrong, it is something that can be called "Lordship salvation", works-based salvation, self-righteousness salvation

 

No, the strength we ask for should always come from Jesus,  Jesus is our strength and righteousness, we do not have spiritual strength or righteousness of our own it all comes from Jesus

 

I just read about this, Lordship salvation and it's some new age stuff from the looks of it.

I just know, whenever I do things Christ's way I don't have to ask for the power to do so every time. If I did, then I think I'd have a lot of work to do on myself as far as being closer to God is concerned. 

Here you are in a panicked state wondering if you'll have the power to overcome this temptation. Don't blame God if you fall into temptation after asking for the power to overcome it cause you'd be to blame. The ability to make choices was given to you long ago. 

Why is this guy even coming to see you ? Did you invite him or tell him not to come ?

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

How about not participating ?

Also. I think God is more delighted with us, when we do refrain from sin without asking for the power to do it.

I've seen quite the opposite from The Bible personally. 

The expression "God helps those who help themselves" isn't even Biblical, it's Greek. 

 That doesn't change my mind, nor does it have anything to do with what I said.

I just don't see any proof for it, Christianity seems to more so if anything embrace asking for help and accepting ourselves as meek. 

So you think when we overcome temptation without asking for help it would displease the Lord.

I didn't say that either, I think He'd be indifferent to it beyond the usual 'Love' he gives everyone. 

The rhetoric itself goes on more about humbling yourself than it does about being strong on your own, saying you'll find strength in being meek rather than working to be strong otherwise. It teaches complacency within a strict set of guidelines that disguise themselves as karmic, all the while pushing the idea that asking questions isn't how faith works and that Wisdom has no value in the Kingdom of Heaven. 

You're entitled to your own opinion, though I personally think your bias approach to the Bible keeps you highly prone to folly.

I mean you're the one pondering reincarnation and thinking God would find it preferable for us to not ask for help. 

Seriously, tons of passages about not leaning on your own understandings followed by 'natural order' messages where we need to accept our roles within these short boundaries. You and Turquie have in common the felt need to separate from traditional faith's doctrines so that it can be whatever you want it to be, an expression of Ego more likely than anything else. 

Consider your life dude, you're sinning on the regular and trying to say you're otherwise privately pious. How are you supposed to avoid damnation if you're so casually willing to sin? 

JesusistheKing said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

How about not participating ?

Also. I think God is more delighted with us, when we do refrain from sin without asking for the power to do it.

Spatial you have this completely wrong! but many people get it wrong, it is something that can be called "Lordship salvation", works-based salvation, or self-righteousness salvation (a false doctrine)

No, the strength we ask for should always come from Jesus,  Jesus is our strength and righteousness, we do not have spiritual strength or righteousness of our own it all comes from Jesus, as do all of the fruits of the Spirit

See, this is closer to what I'm used to hearing. ^^^

Spatial, you see the same sentiments echoed in AA meetings, you're not meant to be strong on your own you're meant to give all you have to the less fortunate as to not be covetous until you're on the same level as they are. It's through being powerless that Christianity promises people power, namely through a sense of Community built from like-minded drones. 

Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight. - Proverbs 3:5-6

You're leaning on your own understanding Spatial, and as a result you're starting to get some details explicitly described from God's book wrong. You just kinda wing it and jump to conclusions when I see you type things here about 'how God would act' and stuff, as if we mere mortals could even comprehend something like that. 

Spatial Mind said: 

JesusistheKing said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

How about not participating ?

Also. I think God is more delighted with us, when we do refrain from sin without asking for the power to do it.

 Spatial you have this completely wrong! but many people get it wrong, it is something that can be called "Lordship salvation", works-based salvation, self-righteousness salvation

No, the strength we ask for should always come from Jesus,  Jesus is our strength and righteousness, we do not have spiritual strength or righteousness of our own it all comes from Jesus

I just read about this, Lordship salvation and it's some new age stuff from the looks of it.

Way to try to downplay it as if your path were superior. 

Reeks of Pride. 

I just know, whenever I do things Christ's way I don't have to ask for the power to do so every time. If I did, then I think I'd have a lot of work to do on myself as far as being closer to God is concerned. 

Wait, are you trying to say you do a better job connecting with God's will than she does? 

By her account she's The Divine Mother, second to only Jesus and God. Who are you to say that you have a closer connection to Him than she does when she thinks herself to be being beamed visions on the regular? 

As far as Biblical accuracy goes in she's the one who's on point this time. You can't just re-invent what The Bible's trying to tell people unless you're aiming to be some sort of Separatist, which Biblically speaking is fairly blasphemous. 

Here you are in a panicked state wondering if you'll have the power to overcome this temptation. Don't blame God if you fall into temptation after asking for the power to overcome it cause you'd be to blame. The ability to make choices was given to you long ago. 

Damn Spats, no need to strike her down like that. Just because she corrected you over something you feel you're more knowledgeable over doesn't mean you need to establish the pecking order with a firm hand. 

It's those who practice kindness and patience that are more likely to see things through, getting more out of life with Honey rather than with Vinegar. 

Why is this guy even coming to see you ? Did you invite him or tell him not to come ?

According to her, Satan's responsible. 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

How about not participating ?

Also. I think God is more delighted with us, when we do refrain from sin without asking for the power to do it.

I've seen quite the opposite from The Bible personally. 

The expression "God helps those who help themselves" isn't even Biblical, it's Greek. 

 That doesn't change my mind, nor does it have anything to do with what I said.

I just don't see any proof for it, Christianity seems to more so if anything embrace asking for help and accepting ourselves as meek. 

So you think when we overcome temptation without asking for help it would displease the Lord.

I didn't say that either, I think He'd be indifferent to it beyond the usual 'Love' he gives everyone. 

The rhetoric itself goes on more about humbling yourself than it does about being strong on your own, saying you'll find strength in being meek rather than working to be strong otherwise. It teaches complacency within a strict set of guidelines. 

For the record, I think I've been pretty meek when it comes to you, wouldn't you say ?

Like you say you find my perspective on women aberrant, but between us I tend to treat them better and I get along with them more than you do around here.

I know it isn't humble of me to point that out, but I opted to play this card now for the sake of education, otherwise I'd keep it to myself.

You're entitled to your own opinion, though I personally think your bias approach to the Bible keeps you highly prone to folly.

I mean you're the one pondering reincarnation and thinking God would find it preferable for us to not ask for help. 

I don't put much thought into reincarnation. When I brought it up in some other thread, I added "Maybe reincarnation, I wouldn't know" And here you are trying to make some big deal out of it. You're also coming off topic.

To be clear and you can look back and see what I wrote. I said...

"I think God is more delighted with us, when we do refrain from sin without asking for the power to do it."

When we do refrain from sin without asking for the power to do it, no offence, is the mark of a more refined soul in God's eyes. This doesn't mean we shouldn't ask at all.

Subject A. Has a desire to choke a bitch - Doesn't do it

Subject B. Has no desire to choke a bitch - Doesn't do it.

In subject A's case, they may or may not have asked for the power to not choke the bitch. But if they always have to ask for the power over the years to not choke a bitch, it's because they are ignorant. This may come to you as a shock.

Seriously, tons of passages about not leaning on your own understandings followed by 'natural order' messages where we need to accept our roles within these short boundaries. You and Turquie have in common the felt need to separate from traditional faith's doctrines so that it can be whatever you want it to be, an expression of Ego more likely than anything else. 

Sure there's passages about leaning on our own understanding. And from what I understand, I practice God's way. This is why I found a lot of bullshit in religion.

Consider your life dude, you're sinning on the regular and trying to say you're otherwise privately pious. How are you supposed to avoid damnation if you're so casually willing to sin? 

 Am I sinning on the regular ? What is that TC ?