you fuck nobody in the ass
you're the number 1 retard of a site of mentally ill subhumans, and literally the very bottom of the hierarchy
and you're currently seething/ having a meltdown cause we typed too complex for your impaired brain to get dopamine
just rope at this point
you fuck nobody in the ass
you're the number 1 retard of a site of mentally ill subhumans, and literally the very bottom of the hierarchy
and you're currently seething/ having a meltdown cause we typed too complex for your impaired brain to get dopamine
just rope at this point
lmao look at you talking about the SC 'hierarchy' like it matters now. We got to you so fast. You're addicted now.
you fuck nobody in the ass
who do you fuck in the ass, or are you a bottom?
TC has even less a life than you aizen but I see him as the more retarded less capable version version you in the end. You two are perfect for 3achother and it's no shock that you two spend your days making paragraphs and coping together
TC has even less a life than you aizen but I see him as the more retarded less capable version version you in the end. You two are perfect for 3achother and it's no shock that you two spend your days making paragraphs and coping together
you fuck nobody in the ass
you're the number 1 retard of a site of mentally ill subhumans, and literally the very bottom of the hierarchy
and you're currently seething/ having a meltdown cause we typed too complex for your impaired brain to get dopamine
just rope at this point
lmao look at you talking about the SC 'hierarchy' like it matters now. We got to you so fast. You're addicted now.
"tc hierarchy" so there's a hierarchy out there you're not at the bottom of?
doubt
TC has even less a life than you aizen but I see him as the more retarded less capable version version you in the end. You two are perfect for 3achother and it's no shock that you two spend your days making paragraphs and coping together
So... ignorance then?
ignoring it cause you already know what it is isn't ignorance, is wisdom
I see it closer to there being something that can be potentially learned from pretty much everyone. With every new person added to the mix the understanding of the human spectrum can become easier to maneuver.
you pretty much contradict your own individualism - ideology by saying that, i bet you don't understand how
I'm moreso meaning that by seeing someone else fuck up over something we've never ourselves done, we can see how that'd go without having to make that blunder personally. Watching someone hit rock bottom can show a lot about the human experience.
the wise learn from experience of others/ history, the idiots learn through their own experience, again you just rephrase my points about predictability
Then for you it'd be an even harder battle than most, as you can't even fathom facing it.
that doesn't make sense, if anything i am the one who's facing it the most, when you submit you stop facing it, you adjust to it
Why do anything if your happiness is compromised? What's the point of doing anything if you can't find peace in it somewhere?
I understand putting happiness to the side for a bit in the name of long term happiness later, but why even do anything if you can't find emotional satisfaction behind it?
you keep speaking as if everything is a form of "emotional satisfaction" /pleasure, that's hedonism and hedonism has been debunked many many many times
What I mean is that if I tried to do the same thing with hundreds of people and I got the same results hundreds of times, I'd begin to question if it's a "me thing" from my being the unchanged factor. Odds support that there should be variation if you throw yourself towards a large enough body of people, suggesting that the reason that things otherwise play out the same is some failing in myself that makes for a self-fulfilling prophecy.
that's assuming
in theory is possible it's all the 100.000 people fault and not yours, is just improbable, and given how every action/influence has a counter reaction counter-influence it's objective to say "both" and that the ratio of which does most is relative, unless you gauge that you're just speculating
What good does that do though? From here that looks like rushing to conclusions instead of having the patience to let them play out. How would you even separate yourself from cognitive bias within this model?
cognitive bias is personalizing things including yourself, if anything you're full of cognitive bias cause you put people under a microscope, and i am devoid of it cause i just connect them to pragmatic concepts
the models are verified continuously, through observable behavior and concepts, your way affects you emotionally (you admitted that they all integrate themselves in your head partially)
so unless you're an emotionless psychopath, you are full of bias yourself
This doesn't read as perfection to me, but rather as the rebuking of concepts that have proven too heavy to handle.
useless / useful are barely relevant to what's "too heavy and what isn't"
Perfection would aim to be good at everything, including one's openness to emotions. When attacked over their true self they'd be ready for it from having already accepted these things about themselves. If they can't hit you as hard as you hit yourself, they can never hurt you with the truth.
you assume i never did that, based on what? my interactions here?
i entered toxic places before and typed all my -then insecurities/ mental issues/ traumas, just to prove to myself that i am not afraid of them, literally paragraphs upon paragraphs, and i read every single toxic-jab directed at me, i didn't dissociate and i didn't selectively read, i made others from my army to do it too so we can prove we're not coping
so you are basically preaching alphabet to an international ambassador here
Have you ever heard of the Dunning Kruger Effect?
it's true for 99.99999% of people, not for me though, sorry
I'd rather be the advisor to someone than the one with my face on the label.
advisors can be everyone, if anything a way to counter the dunning kruger effect is to grab two people who're rational and ask them to evaluate each other/ judge each other constantly, even make decisions for each other
it can actually work, most meritocratic governments are based on that in fact (the successful ones)
Your pride sounds like it's the source of your unhappiness.
you assume i am unhappy, because you project how you would feel if you were me, with your own cognitive bias
What happens if you don't craft a flag or effigy to assume control of?
i reject the very concept of happiness and i find it as something beneath me, and i got many reasons to explain why i do that (no cope)
Why is compromise so bad? It's the byproduct of adaptation during a clash.
if you need to adapt is cause you can't dominate
To rush towards compromise is a Fallacy of Gray; The insistence that the middle-ground must be right, but to be unwilling to compromise at all is simply stubborn. Life itself forces one to compromise, to adapt, or be crushed by the weight of those who will. It is from compromise that societies are built in the first place, even down to having running water and electricity and stuff.
middle ground is an illusion, any type of temporary peace exists cause it just happened to support the interests of the two -previously clashing sides, when one of the two sides has the opportunity to start a strategically beneficial clash for it, it does
machiavelli already debunked the "neutrality" cope in some of his work, read it
What's wrong with flexibility though?
i never said "wrong or right" in any of my statements or responses, you did
Have you ever tried a kill them with kindness strategy?
i don't have any kindness to give to insects, i keep that for things that matter
So this is a trust issue then, more than anything about your audience?
Is it that it's easier to see us as larpers and trolls?
"trust issue" that sounds personal, trust about what? who? or "easier to see us as blah blah"
sounds like you don't like how i just grab everyone and put them into a very very low tier model
there's only way to stop me from doing that, prove to me i am wrong
2 people online have done so far out of 500.000 or so... good luck, and words can't do it, i need to see actions and lack of fronting
Doesn't this mean you desire to live up to a model? Sounds like a desire to conform mixed with an inability to trust others' templates.
i live up to elitistic models, others live up to their personal models, hence my models are superior
Impossible, everyone telegraphs. There's training to reduce the amount of steps you have in a move but there will always be something that gives it away. It's a matter of body language, you have to move to strike and there's going time between the move and the hit, which is why it pays to be tricky and deceptive rather than just bludgeoning the dude.
This is why it's useful to learn feints, and to otherwise try to make multiple moves look like they have the same telegraph.
it's impossible for combinations, by telegraph i mean no movement that indicates that you will attack with a specific body part, in theory however every movement can be considered a telegraph, that's not what i mean, i mean lack of the shitty-type of telegraphs, like people waving their fist before punching etc
I don't see how any sense of justice could be objective beyond the argument of sociological tenants.
you lost every opportunity to do so when you attempted to connect objective justice to social standards/ social structures/ human opinions
And this is more about convincing yourself than any of us, right?
you can't convince anyone about anything, if a person is delusional and has a cope to survive, it's over, that cope -delusion supports his survival, so by trying to negate it you practically add to his "suicide" (depression happens when people can't cope anymore)
is about proving it to myself, in my eyes i already won against everyone the moment i didn't let reality change me, you all did
What defines success though? I find pleasure from it and handle it responsibly, so what's the problem?
Why would I feel any need to drop pegging beyond some sort of homo-fears or whatever?
there we go again with the hedonism cope, you realize that hedonism is equally coping- to stoicism right?
just cause something FEELS right, that doesn't mean IT IS RIGHT
you need to understand that fr
hahaha after painfully trying to dissect basic social skills most people take for granted the convo now evolves to "why I like being fucked up the ass". lmao carry on, losers.
lol, virgin.
Turncoat said:So... ignorance then?ignoring it cause you already know what it is isn't ignorance, is wisdom
It looks like ignorance that followed life experience.
Turncoat said:I see it closer to there being something that can be potentially learned from pretty much everyone. With every new person added to the mix the understanding of the human spectrum can become easier to maneuver.you pretty much contradict your own individualism - ideology by saying that, i bet you don't understand how
I don't see how, I've been going on about how each individual is a collage of sameness in different orders, complete with specificity in the form of life experience.
Turncoat said:I'm moreso meaning that by seeing someone else fuck up over something we've never ourselves done, we can see how that'd go without having to make that blunder personally. Watching someone hit rock bottom can show a lot about the human experience.the wise learn from experience of others/ history, the idiots learn through their own experience, again you just rephrase my points about predictability
Do I? This was me rephrasing one of Tryp's points.
Turncoat said:Then for you it'd be an even harder battle than most, as you can't even fathom facing it.that doesn't make sense, if anything i am the one who's facing it the most, when you submit you stop facing it, you adjust to it
You never stop facing anything unless you're avoiding it, what changes is to what degree it's faced.
Turncoat said:Why do anything if your happiness is compromised? What's the point of doing anything if you can't find peace in it somewhere?
I understand putting happiness to the side for a bit in the name of long term happiness later, but why even do anything if you can't find emotional satisfaction behind it?
you keep speaking as if everything is a form of "emotional satisfaction" /pleasure, that's hedonism and hedonism has been debunked many many many times
Hedonism is to seek only pleasure, and it usually has pitfalls from not planning ahead.
If you've cultivated a setting that can keep you happy without decay, where's the issue?
Turncoat said:What I mean is that if I tried to do the same thing with hundreds of people and I got the same results hundreds of times, I'd begin to question if it's a "me thing" from my being the unchanged factor. Odds support that there should be variation if you throw yourself towards a large enough body of people, suggesting that the reason that things otherwise play out the same is some failing in myself that makes for a self-fulfilling prophecy.that's assuming
It's Occam's Razor imo, it'd be a more complicated situation if it was on every single other person instead.
in theory is possible it's all the 100.000 people fault and not yours, is just improbable, and given how every action/influence has a counter reaction counter-influence it's objective to say "both" and that the ratio of which does most is relative, unless you gauge that you're just speculating
Having watched enough other people talk to other people, I've seen them bring about different conclusions and clashes than the themes that tend to come from talking with me. We can only bring about so many situations due to our own shortcomings, and it is often through the words or eyes of another that we can transcend our own limitations, see what is otherwise unseen.
Turncoat said:What good does that do though? From here that looks like rushing to conclusions instead of having the patience to let them play out. How would you even separate yourself from cognitive bias within this model?cognitive bias is personalizing things including yourself, if anything you're full of cognitive bias cause you put people under a microscope, and i am devoid of it cause i just connect them to pragmatic concepts
You can't not include yourself, we can only see that which our own perceptions allow.
As an old friend of mine coined, "Perception is Reality."
Turncoat said:This doesn't read as perfection to me, but rather as the rebuking of concepts that have proven too heavy to handle.useless / useful are barely relevant to what's "too heavy and what isn't"
What is versus isn't useful though isn't something we always know until after.
Turncoat said:Perfection would aim to be good at everything, including one's openness to emotions. When attacked over their true self they'd be ready for it from having already accepted these things about themselves. If they can't hit you as hard as you hit yourself, they can never hurt you with the truth.you assume i never did that, based on what? my interactions here?
i entered toxic places before and typed all my -then insecurities/ mental issues/ traumas, just to prove to myself that i am not afraid of them, literally paragraphs upon paragraphs, and i read every single toxic-jab directed at me, i didn't dissociate and i didn't selectively read, i made others from my army to do it too so we can prove we're not coping
so you are basically preaching alphabet to an international ambassador here
Considering that I cannot check on those myself, I can't really say for or against how well you did.
Turncoat said:Have you ever heard of the Dunning Kruger Effect?it's true for 99.99999% of people, not for me though, sorry
Why not?
I'll answer the rest in a bit, multitasking atm.
