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Turncoat said:
Online, actions and words are practically the same. I'd argue as much over IRL as well, as their words still grant the room to gauge for hypocrisies and the like.

depends on many factors, online you can adopt a speech that covers up your emotions very well, and only someone very intuitive will be able to tell, the normies - npcs wil lfall for it, if i type "xoxo ok sweetie muah" npc's will think idgaf and i am trolling, but behind the screen i might be overthinking - over planning or even being triggered

Given enough time, their subtext will usually become clearer. There's a reason they choose to dawn the disguises they do, and the slips of the tongue (or fingers) can grant context on why they wear the masks at all. 

People can fake consistent spelling mistakes and tactics enough times to establish a different sense of identity, but when you get them by the balls they'll sing surprisingly similar songs. I've watched multiple puppets be outed purely over how they respond when triggered, over how they can't help but be themselves when pushed far enough to break character. Even if their lapse in character doesn't immediately yield the answer it may down the line in hilarious ways. 

Often times it's easy enough to hide in plain sight based on how they'd prefer to see it, like when I was a series of puppets reposting critiques under multiple names. They kept assuming it was Jim no matter what it did simply because that's how they resolve a mystery when they have nothing to go on but what feels familiar to them. For those who really bothered with the subtext they'd have seen the puppets were trying too hard, they even had my hours ffs. 
 

Turncoat said:
So you admit to conforming to another's idea of perfection, aka 'The Elite'?

no it's my own, unfortunately their own eliteness must be integrated to reach it, no other way around it, my plan is to beat that down too

How does your idea of the elite contrast from others' ideas of it? 

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I say fuck being elite, such actions are masturbatory. I'd rather be real without having to bludgeon myself enough times to become someone else through symbols and effigies.

i don't get what you mean by "being real" tbh, i can only be honest, authentic, and realistic, but real? in what aspect? to myself? others? both? cause that's always changing, just like peoples circumstances -emotions -needs to, claiming you can be constantly real shows low functionality or possibly arrgoance 

Real as in saying my weaknesses as openly as my strengths, not playing the game that'd presume I'm better than I am. Real as in becoming what fits my life (as much as is possible) rather than what others have said everyone should be doing. 

Through accepting my truths, no one can use them against me. If they cannot hurt me over these things as much as I hurt myself then they will always feel weaker than my own self-directed damages. The bar simply ends up too high and they don't know what to do over someone who isn't losing their shit, and should I lose my shit that'll serve as an example to showcase later how the latter expression is not the same as the former. 

If they can't hit me as hard as I hit myself, it also shows me how hard I've been hitting myself in the first place, which works as a fairly healthy reality check when my assumed outcome is worse than what ends up happening (ie: when I got doxxed). Be the best self-abuser you can be, set the bar as high as your own inner demons want to take you, and no one else will be able to bring it out of you as a shocking surprise. 

By establishing my real self as my public self, they can't do anything more than what I've shown them, and if they hit me somewhere I was not ready for then that's a chance for me to grow from it, establish that weakness publicly, and then surpass it in ways where they can't use them as ammunition once it becomes old news rather than an unresolved issue. 

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If it were that easy, boxing'd be an entirely different sport dude.

The first hit is very important, they can't combo if they can't connect. All of anyone's combo training's crap if they can just sidestep or parry the beginning of it, and even once in it there's plenty of ways to roll through the move to minimize the hurt.

gauging the distance is the most important and footwork plus eye coordination, boxing is hard af, rolling through the movement... impossible once you get into a slugfest

Boxing's a lot of upper body bobbing and weaving, dodging's essential. The real weakness is over their footing being too braced, but then again it's meant to be sport combat with realistic applications rather than handled as 1-to-1 between the street and the ring. 

Turncoat said:

Those can make very clever feints, especially if you dupe the enemy into thinking you're predictable.

To quote the Jade Warlord from Forbidden Kingdom when fighting his greatest enemy: "Martial art is based on deception, my friend."

It's the closest we have to anything objective, as we can see the patterns appearing time and time again across our species even in other countries. Past a point as broad as that it's all subjective. 

deception doesn't work always, sometimes it's all about athletic performance in martial arts, it's not a chess game, fighting IQ - ability is totally different to tactics and strategy

Athletic performance is the entry fee, but once you're skilled enough it becomes about mind games, how you land the hits you're capable of rather than simply knowing the moves and having enoug heft behind them. 

From having sparred many times against someone heavy enough that me doing a running jump kick had me bounce off, I had to consider more strategy than sheer power. Even Muai Thai has a lot of focus on busting the legs from it being a recognizable weakpoint in all body types, similar to the head. 
 

Turncoat said:

Excuse me?

Do I need to link you a bunch of Derren Brown as a counter-argument?

disagree with him and you,

What'd Derren get wrong? The dude's a pretty tricky mentalist who uses tried and true strategies for most of his work. 

for me you are only persuaded when you feel exactly what the person who makes the argument feels, agree completely with it, truly understand it, and can narrate it as well as he does

I moreso try to provoke truths out of people that they didn't expect themselves to say. Oftentimes I don't know what I'm going to get by the end of the journey with the other person in question, but by the end of it there's almost always something I gained from it that applies later in life. 

nah, if an opinion can change cause of external forces, it's not acquired knowledge, acquired real knowledge should be absolute 

Can't someone learn opposing pieces of knowledge, stuck in the end having to pick which one makes the most sense to them from lacking an objective truth to work from? 

Turncoat said:
I don't see being stubborn as winning. I've definitely seen my share of "I'm not convinced, so I win", but I wouldn't claim someone else lost if I didn't end up changing my mind by the end of it.

what happens when you ask random people, from different ideologies, philosophies, who got no reason to lie to you, or even people who dislike you greatly, and they agreed you won? and the only person who doesn't is the loser?

What's wrong with losing? 

To be honest, growing up, the losses I took were much more invaluable than the victories. Losing shows me that I have something I need to work on, while winning just confirms that I don't need to try any harder. 

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Only if it's as an escape from something else, and it's only hedonism when you've gone too far. Hedonism is by designed meant to embrace excess, while I believe in "Less is More" in many respects.

do you have any arguments to make that people don't escape a form of negativyt by chasing happiness/ positivity?

 I believe happiness should be sought for it's own sake, rather than as an answer to unrelated problems. 

Pleasure rings hollow when it's being used to bury, while when done for it's own sake it shows us what life truly has to offer. Something as simple as eating bread dunked in delicious swiss fondue infused with wine before a charming fireworks show with the locals of a town I've never been to has shown me that happiness is not unattainable even within appreciating the little things. 

you know that as long as you seek something is cause you lack it right? and lacking it literally means the sate- of not having it - the stage your desire to escape basically 

Happiness and contentedness is like perfection; you never get 100% of the way there from it being entirely conceptual. 

I've theorized that people'd be happier if they never heard of the word 'happy', seeing as it's the concept itself that grants room to interrupt and doubt it's existence. 

before being a person you are an orgamism

the ultimate purpose of an organism, with no personality, no character, no emotions, is to reproeduce, pass its dna that's revolution, that's how we came to exist, through history, our race, dna, is all that

We as humans have found tons and tons of ways to surpass our nature. If we did not find pleasure in reproduction like that of the pig or dolphin we'd probably not be nearly as advanced (and invasively overpopulated) as we are. At this point we have no responsibility to pass on our genes beyond egotism, for we as a species (rather than as an individual) have surpassed our limitations through the sciences thanks to our ability to retain knowledge as experience and the means of recognizing symbology to learn things others wrote down. 

when you get pegged, become faggot/ bi whatever or you race mix, you practically <<betray>> your own bloodline, aka your own course of revolution

Our body is literally by design able to enjoy being fucked up the ass, within our very genes and DNA. My 'bloodline' as far back as I can tell has matriarchal leanings for house politics and I'm no exception there. Couldn't it be argued that I am following my bloodline to it's logical conclusion, considering that people are mostly a series of impulses given meaning after the fact anyway? 

How is it a betrayal to enjoy anal any more than wearing a condom before fucking for example? Enough ass fucking on a dude is pure prostate stimulation, producing a boner capable of sex and everything. 

now you can tell me that "idgaf about that" okay, maybe you don't or " how exactly do i betray it?" 

Went with the latter, but isn't it a valid question when the biological imperative is no longer imperative, when our bodies are by design capable of enjoying it, and from my bloodline rooting from matriarchal origins with higher estrogen counts than the norm? 

but speaking elistically cause i always speak like that, any type of sexual intercourse that doesn't optimize you passing your genes, isn't organism - wise optimal

The enjoyment of any kind of sex offers the room to go at it again, it offers the room to bond and express vulnerability, it shows them (and yourself) what else you're capable of, it's a journey. 

By being willing to be pegged I've landed much more sex in the long run. 


Whew, that was a lot. Feel free to respond at your own leisure and skip whatever until a later point if that makes it easier to keep the discussion rolling. I just address everything I bother with from seeing something worth responding to in it. 

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no problem in my next evolution i respond all good

Looking forward to it. 

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bumping the thread

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this is making me cringe so fucking hard

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stop inhabiting my debate thread with your cringe personal e-grudges against me or trannycoat you borderline retarded maggots

 

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stop inhabiting my debate thread with your cringe personal e-grudges against me or trannycoat you borderline retarded maggots

They aren't on our level, they know not what they do or why. It's best to leave them to their prideful posturing. 

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stop inhabiting my debate thread with your cringe personal e-grudges against me or trannycoat you borderline retarded maggots

They aren't on our level, they know not what they do or why. It's best to leave them to their prideful posturing. 

 according to your ex friend natasa if two randoms have a philosophical debate it's = e sex

first time i see this kind of projection online btw she is unique

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