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As usual your will to argue has you snapping at every last line I wrote with your perverted view on the truth.

The Friendzone isn't with just any company of the opposite sex we keep. It's simply being just friends with someone we want to date and it then carries on while you're used as an emotional tampon and they run off to bang some other dude. That being said I have 4 females on my hands that dial me up regularly and I really have no intention of hooking up with any of them. As for me and the friendzone, yes I've been there, it's a part of the human experience.

You think OJ Simpson did it. Good for you. I think we have no real way of knowing as some of the evidence used against him never added up, such as the gloves not being able to fit his hands. Now he could have did it or he could have had someone do it for him, again there's no real way of knowing unless we were able to witness it, so it's unwise and brutish to run around telling everyone he did it, cause you honestly couldn't bet your life on it.

Meeting a racist halfway can have a positive outcome, but it still comes at a price because there are in most cases existing entanglements between the racist and the hated, so opening dialog with them can get you busted from others. I say it's better to stay away from them simply because most people don't have what it takes to reverse hatred.

You say Feminism isn't only about women, I beg to differ. A woman can seize their opportunity and focus on doing whatever it is they want. I respect the first wave feminists, but today it mutated into a mob of man haters, complaining about non existing gender pay gaps and giving the finger to successful men. I have a friend that still works in a factory I used to work at, and he says the tensions between men and women have gotten so insane, they're not to even look at the women and it's better not to even greet them. Then we're seeing headlines of men being uncomfortable with women in the workspace. 

You want to talk about white Hollywood go ahead. Fact still remains that the population of white people trump all the other numbers combined by 75%+. But I get it, you want to see even numbers between the races and what positions they have so let's just fire some white folks who worked hard to get where the're at. Another thing about this, white people are pretty. Whoa. Don't start getting upset for other races, it's just common knowledge that white people are pretty so when it comes to the silver screen we often want to see white people. If you want you can watch movies comprised of other races, there are many out there and just ignore the movies with white people, as  a matter of fact.

Even when it comes to black rap stars, you look at the majority of their crowds and the masses who pay to see them are by a landslide white. It all comes down to numbers.

Going to cut this short cause it's not really my goal to change your mind. I'm just calling it like it is, and as usual you take issue with reality. 

Simply put, the quality of life between men and women are declining. As it was once socially acceptable to hate the blacks, now it's socially acceptable to be racist toward white people in the name of anti racism, which isn't anti racism. Traditional family values are frowned upon.

This is a big one....More and more, women don't want to cook for men, like WTF !?

LeggaLegga said: 

I've noticed a worrying trend on the Internet to stigmatize men who defend women,

Just normal defending is fine, but simps defend women when the women are attacking someone else or are wrong about something just because they have a vagina. Simping is what is stigmatized.

traditional family values,

the fuck? there is nothing wrong with promoting traditional family values. it's what kept societies going for so long.

or black people.

black people are responsible for the majority of crimes and prison population despite being 13.4% of the entire US population. Black people attacked asian shops in the LA riots and they are behind the most of the asian american attacks. It's not hard to hate a race who is full of hatred, envy and crab in the bucket mentality. Why does nobody hate Indians in the US? Because they mind their own business and try to succeed.

Being a feminist or a social justice warrior seems to be used as an insult, which seems to effectively quiet those people who vocally take issues with social problems.

Plenty of people who voice social issues, it's those who try to use em to shame others and morally police them who are targeted. 

In the meantime, it gives a platform to agitated incels, racists, and white priviliged men.

Is it ok if we give platform to femcels, black supremacist and racists of other racist then?

I used to visit 9gag every now and then several years ago. It's supposed to be a platform for memes and jokes. What started off as harmless jokes about racial stereotypes and a few select idiots going crazy has slowly become a serious campaign against feminists, the left wing, and black people.

I do notice how 9gag turned racist btw lol yeah. Back in the 2000s we used to raid them because they were "gay", now they are a clone of 4chan too. 

As I now understand, George Floyd deserved to die,

That's mostly trolling to get a reaction. Same as me talking about wanting to rape toddlers and telling women to go back to kitchen, it's all for a reaction from social justice warriors who take the internet too seriously.

Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro are a heroes of rationality,

I do find both of them cringe yeah

black people are inherently violent,

Fact, just look at the murder and incarceration statistics. inb4 "police targets blacks". That is true but you need evidence of crime to go to jail regardless.

and trans-women are not women.

If tomorrow saying the sky is blue becomes socially unacceptable, will you start believing it's pink? 

Trans women are women as much as pinocchio is a real boy, you need a real vagina and girl voice to be a woman, just like pinocchio needs real skin and flesh to become a boy.

Before, when people made statements like these, there were a few sane people trashing them for the racist bigots they were. However, nowadays it seems that people are afraid of being labeled SJWs, white knights, and so on. Chivalry is also dead.

Do you need others to enforce your beliefs through social bullying? 

It's been a pretty effective strategy in wiping out the last 50 years of progress, at least on small scales.

What does progress mean to you? Evolution does not necessarily mean it's good, food changes into rot. 

You could also argue that we have devolved, from the erosion of free speech to companies using social tactics to drive competitors out of the game with fabricated sexual scandals and the rise of narcissism and destruction of collectivism.

In my old companies Slack server, I would refuse to answer to private messages from female coworkers so they can't twist something I said as sexual harassment, and I know plenty of Romanian tech firms who refuse to avoid hiring women because they are scared of the obvious, how does this help female inclusion in workspace?

To me it seems like you take standpoints because they validate a certain view about yourself and you deem them as moral / socially acceptable instead of thinking through things and coming to your own conclusions, and maybe there is also the subsconscious hope of getting female attention by fighting the angry incels who don't realize that women are always right and the female obersving what a superior renaissance man you are.

I understand that women's position has improved significantly over the years.

That doesn't mean there aren't issues. E.g., looking at the rape and sexual harrassment numbers (at workplace or otherwise), I'd like to see those being lower, just like I'd like to fix other social issues. It's not just about who gets the shorter end of the straw -- men or women. There are some issues that are gender-specific, and some issues that are not. It'd be nice to see more representation of both sexes at the top levels.

Saying that the men who join feminist rallies or support feminism do it because they want to get laid is about as justified as saying that those against feminism were hurt by a woman. Men generally want sex, among other thing, but that is not the only reason they do things. There are several reasons why one might do something. Personally, I'm concerned with social problems

Perhaps your ex was not a suitable match for you. I'm fairly conservative in my views, and so I consider it important that my partner is serious about caring for their children. I'm not going to impose my views on anyone, but I do cherish many traditional family values and gender roles, and will promote those views. However, I value democracy and the people's rights to make their own decisions, more than my personal views.

Why do you believe incels are more deserving of women than those that women chase? I'm happily married, so I'm not complaining. I can only speak from personal experience, but the incels I know aren't particularly attractive personality or look-wise.

I agree that quotas don't ensure that the best-qualified person gets the job. However, I believe having equal representation at the top levels offset whatever minor harm you might be causing in the short-term, as long as there are gender-specific issues.

The woman who killed her daughter deserves everything that's coming to her. I hadn't acually heard about this particular case. However, the fact that there are white-issues doesn't mean we shouldn't fix those other issues. What issues would an outrage of this woman's treatment of her daughter fix, though? The murder of George Floyd was inexcusable and it served as a catalyst for many changes.

On white privilige. It's not just about who occupy the top-level jobs. I don't have strong opinions there, as it is harder to make a case based off of a quantity influenced by several factors. However, if you get an immigrant and a white person with more or less the same equal CVs make applications to various firms, the white applicant will get a ton more call-backs. There are several other examples of white privilige. Certainly not all of the claims about white privilige are warranted, but I would not say it is a myth.

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Personally I don't see a reason for a western man to defend western women in general, they have it better than we do.

You make it sound like men are the secondary gender, culturally speaking. 

We aren't there, but it could happen within our lifetime if we're lucky. 

From my observation point as a 3rd worlder, it seems that being a man is a shameful act itself over there, as opposed to being respected like it is here.

We see these guys marching with feminists even though a good number of those women hate him. They also know he's trying to get laid, but is that the case? Of course.

Not everyone's pulling an Always Sunny when it comes to men at feminism rallies, thanks to the more modern LGBTQ mindset there's gay dudes who attend those things too you know. 😉

wamen dont seem to reciprocate the sisterhood feelings

https://qz.com/work/1413171/why-nigerias-most-prominent-lgbtq-activist-doesnt-identify-as-a-feminist/

Nature has gone too far with everything, like pain. A man's purpose is to spread his genes. These guys will end up getting friendzoned, and they will be expected to remain quiet at feminist gatherings.

The friendzone really isn't that bad man. 

If you're only being friendly with them to get laid, then you weren't really being their friend in the first place. The best relationships come from the friendzone, as that's how you know if they are or aren't worth dating and potentially even marrying in the first place. The more you make it about getting laid, the less likely it'll happen, while if you're just cool and casual then the sex kinda just falls in your lap. 

It also helps for reducing the risks of the honeymoon phase. 

This is your 3rd post rationalizing why being in the friendzone is ok, I am assuming it's because you spent your youth in it and you need to deal with it or smth. Friendzone is a tad of an exploitive relationship as women are not known to pay their debt back (money loans) and they fail to stay loyal towards each other, always some rivalry and backstabbing going on, its hard to count on women during hard times.

Traditional family values are view as tyrannical in today's world. The young call for the government to look after them instead, as they call for laws to silence free thinkers.

Once machines take all our jobs, we're going to need an assistance program already in place. 

The fact that we don't is what holds back progress, such as why unions fight the self-driving car. Socialism is the future if not something like it once our means of work becomes obsolete and decadent, once it's just online sexwork through VR and e-sports as our way of life. 

My ex is like this. Last time she told me she wanted a child she added that I can stay at home and take care of it while she goes to work, and how she would be more interested in them when they are older, which is funny cause I said the same thing to her. Aside from that, I honestly wouldn't mind looking after an infant but I do think it's a major red flag when a woman claims to have little to no interest in her child when they child needs a Mother the most. 

This makes sense, considering how you don't work well within conventional constraints. If you're doing freelance work, investing in stocks, or otherwise just wasting your time then why shouldn't you be the stay at home dad? 

If your ex was making the big bucks, why not? 

I think what he means is that he is worried about how she wants to deal with the children only when it's most convenient for her, that she is lacking motherly instinct.

Incels are often more deserving of her hand than they guy she's chasing. Same goes for guys, in many cases we go after women we shouldn't waste our time with.

You sound jealous. 

Racists are racist. Sometimes they get their way, other times they don't.  It's best not to be around them cause they'll drag you down on a count of guilt by association.

I thought you said the opposite before, that being good company among them can have them accept you as a token of your kind. 

Black people kill black people more than white people kill them. They also kill more white people than white people kill them. Last year a black guy killed a 4 year old boy, after the boy's Father had the black guy over the dinner that same evening. There was no public outrage.

The fuck is this portion of the ramble? 

 What kind of gaslighting retardation is this? He is addressing Legga's "hatred against black people" by giving his own take on why black people are hated, no rambles here.

LeggaLegga said: 

I understand that women's position has improved significantly over the years.

That doesn't mean there aren't issues. E.g., looking at the rape and sexual harrassment numbers (at workplace or otherwise), I'd like to see those being lower, just like I'd like to fix other social issues. It's not just about who gets the shorter end of the straw -- men or women. 

It'll probably be laughable but there are studies that suggest men are raped almost as much, or sometimes more than women. 

https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/04/male-rape-in-america-a-new-study-reveals-that-men-are-sexually-assaulted-almost-as-often-as-women.html

 There are bad people out there of both genders, but the bias gives weight toward manhood as opposed to the guilty.

There are some issues that are gender-specific, and some issues that are not. It'd be nice to see more representation of both sexes at the top levels.

 There's a small group of Men and Women called the MRA ( Men's Rights Activists ) and they pretty much talk about how men really don't have any programs in place to support them. How we die more, how our claims of rape aren't taken seriously by those who enforce laws. They also talk about how easy it is for a woman to get us locked up based on an false accusations and that's happened. It's not that they support male rapist or anything that slows female progress 

As you can see they are often harassed by feminist extremists, as they are called liars, or rapists. But if you actually listen to what they have to say, it's nothing like what the extremists make it out to be. Now with extremists comes a lot of groupthinking, so it's very easy to go online and find people speaking against the MRA. Some complaints against the MRA very vague, like "They create a boogieman and go after the boogieman". 

Here's a breakdown about a documentary called "The Red Pill" which was created by a feminist, long story short she ended up leaving feminism while creating the documentary. I think it's been banned on Netflix, when I look it up, all I see is feminist documentaries.

In short. Speaking up for Men's rights or starting a movement for good men, which is most of us, is considered taboo, and you never noticed that.

Saying that the men who join feminist rallies or support feminism do it because they want to get laid is about as justified a saying that those against feminism were hurt by a woman. Men generally want sex, among other thing, but that is not the only reason they do things. There are several reasons why one might do something. Personally, I'm concerned with social problems

Having our hearts broken and breaking hearts is a part of it. Some of the things 3rd wave feminists complain about today is bullshit, and these guys are like "Oh yeah fuck those guys"

Yeah these guys will agree while the speaker calls men pigs and how we objectify them and these guys will just nod along are get none cause they're not going home to a wife of girlfriend. She's out banging some other guy or making out with her girlfriend, while goes home insisting he must be emasculated right away. On the bright side his friends think he's sweet.

The other type of guys that are active against the supposid evil of manhood are the beta types or LGBTQ.

Is it a major threat to our species ? Probably not. These people just have a natural hate for gene spreaders, which they are not, even though they are the product of gene spreaders.

Perhaps your ex was not a suitable match for you. I'm fairly conservative in my views, and so I consider it important that my partner is serious about caring for their children. I'm not going to impose my views on anyone, but I do cherish many traditional family values and gender roles, and will promote those views. However, I value democracy and the people's rights to make their own decisions, more than my personal views.

Yes. It doesn't work out if he and she are not interested in making it work.

Why do you believe incels are more deserving of women than those that women chase? I'm happily married, so I'm not complaining. I can only speak from personal experience, but the incels I know aren't particularly attractive personality or look-wise.

Looks don't determine what one deserves. Incels are men that love women deeply in unhealthy ways, they aren't too bright. Yes she is not attracted to him, but for some reason she'll keep him around, while he'll keep treating her like gold and do whatever he can to keep her for a lifetime. These guys are also very loyal, they worked too hard to blow it, and that's if they manage to even hit it off.

The Neo masculine man will try to bang as many woman as he can. The Incels in comparison display the qualities a parent would rather their daughters get involved with. The Incel is also the mangina and will agree with everything she wishes for. She'll need to ride the carousel for awhile, and maybe she'll get that alpha with the looks and fortune.

Between both genders, we're both attracted to the promiscuous in our youth. 

I agree that quotas don't ensure that the best-qualified person gets the job. However, I believe having equal representation at the top levels offset whatever minor harm you might be causing in the short-term, as long as there are gender-specific issues.

Heh. The actual documentary.

In 2021 gender transexual issues are more imporant. Same with other genders, whatever they call themselves.

The woman who killed her daughter deserves everything that's coming to her. I hadn't acually heard about this particular case. However, the fact that there are white-issues doesn't mean we shouldn't fix those other issues. What issues would an outrage of this woman's treatment of her daughter fix, though? The murder of George Floyd was inexcusable and it served as a catalyst for many changes.

Probably wouldn't serve anything. But it goes to show, a grown ass man who lived a criminal lifestyle gets more coverage than a black person killing a white innocent child. 

On white privilige. It's not just about who occupy the top-level jobs. I don't have strong opinions there, as it is harder to make a case based off of a quantity influenced by several factors. However, if you get an immigrant and a white person with more or less the same equal CVs make applications to various firms, the white applicant will get a ton more call-backs. There are several other examples of white privilige. Certainly not all of the claims about white privilige are warranted, but I would not say it is a myth.

 I'd imagine if someone sounds like they are carved from the same stone, they would be in favor compared to someone with a thick accent.

In the US White people are also among the most poor. Worse than black communities in Detroit. They just don't cover that level of poverty in the US. 

One category will call out another category of people, that's all it is really, and it doesn't seem to work too well. 

@Jim:

I am not an expert in gender studies and don't do serious research on these topics, but I've taken time to weigh the opposing stances. I ultimately find those stances difficult to reconcile with my value system. There are several bits where we agree.

I understand how you might justify hating black people because they commit more serious crimes. However, do men not commit more crimes than women? Wouldn't hating men then also be justified, by your logic?

You're right. When a group perceives a women as wrong, they call those who defend the woman simps, and say they just wish to get laid. In the long term, this seems to quiet the voice opposing social problems. The target is usually a caricature of the opposition. People then extrapolate that, because the strawman was knocked down, the entire opposition is wrong. It's this extrapolation I mainly take issue with and worry about.

I see your point about giving a platform to racists of other races. The reason public outrage is used as a catalyst for social change is that it is more compelling to laypeople than research, which comes after. However, the counter-examples that oppose these catalysts (black people are racist too!) by similarly appealing to emotion seem counter-productive and damaging. They mostly serve to oppose large-scale social change as opposed to driving another beneficial social change. Thus, I am against these anti-examples.

We agree on Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro, and family values.

There is a small minority of hyper-violent blacks and they skew the violent crime statistics. If you look at the black people in jail relative to white people, the number is much more shocking than if you look at the total population of blacks and whites in jail.

What would you suggest to do to avoid sexual harassment in the workplace while helping include women?

What did you mean by the Pinocchio example? If I was in school with Pinocchio, I would not let bigots say he wasn't a real boy or ban him from partaking in activities not harmful to anyone.

Spatial Mind said: 

As usual your will to argue has you snapping at every last line I wrote with your perverted view on the truth.

If you stuck to only one idea, I wouldn't have to break it apart. The only difference between your style and my style of posting is a willingness to quote the other person for context. Even your reply towards Legga is doing the same 'snapping' as you'd call it. 

Are you really going to tell me the splits you did in your last two longposts weren't all a bunch of unrelated tangential points over how you see the world? 

Would it be easier on you if I split it into even more smaller posts, like four of them or something? 

Spatial Mind said:

The Friendzone isn't with just any company of the opposite sex we keep. It's simply being just friends with someone we want to date and it then carries on while you're used as an emotional tampon and they run off to bang some other dude.

As for me and the friendzone, yes I've been there, it's a part of the human experience.

You think OJ Simpson did it. Good for you. I think we have no real way of knowing as some of the evidence used against him never added up, such as the gloves not being able to fit his hands. Now he could have did it or he could have had someone do it for him, again there's no real way of knowing unless we were able to witness it, so it's unwise and brutish to run around telling everyone he did it, cause you honestly couldn't bet your life on it.

Meeting a racist halfway can have a positive outcome, but it still comes at a price because there are in most cases existing entanglements between the racist and the hated, so opening dialog with them can get you busted from others. I say it's better to stay away from them simply because most people don't have what it takes to reverse hatred.

You say Feminism isn't only about women, I beg to differ.

By it's literal definition: 



I swear only stubborn right wingers refuse to see it, as to see it as more like "Equalism" would serve to make their arguments look ridiculous. This is the definition of it as I've known since I was a kid, as feminism has been this since even before I was born. 

A woman can seize their opportunity and focus on doing whatever it is they want. I respect the first wave feminists, but today it mutated into a mob of man haters, complaining about non existing gender pay gaps and giving the finger to successful men.

I have a friend that still works in a factory I used to work at, and he says the tensions between men and women have gotten so insane, they're not to even look at the women and it's better not to even greet them. 

Then we're seeing headlines of men being uncomfortable with women in the workspace. 

You want to talk about white Hollywood go ahead. Fact still remains that the population of white people trump all the other numbers combined by 75%+.

But I get it, you want to see even numbers between the races and what positions they have so let's just fire some white folks who worked hard to get where the're at.

Another thing about this, white people are pretty. Whoa.

Don't start getting upset for other races, it's just common knowledge that white people are pretty so when it comes to the silver screen we often want to see white people.

If you want you can watch movies comprised of other races, there are many out there and just ignore the movies with white people, as  a matter of fact.

Even when it comes to black rap stars, you look at the majority of their crowds and the masses who pay to see them are by a landslide white. It all comes down to numbers.

Going to cut this short cause it's not really my goal to change your mind. I'm just calling it like it is, and as usual you take issue with reality. 

Simply put, the quality of life between men and women are declining. As it was once socially acceptable to hate the blacks, now it's socially acceptable to be racist toward white people in the name of anti racism, which isn't anti racism. Traditional family values are frowned upon.

It's a response against how things were once going, much like MGTOW was a response against female autonomy. 

This is a big one....More and more, women don't want to cook for men, like WTF !?

Why should they be when both genders have equal access to internet recipes, and aren't there significantly more male chefs than female ones in the workforce (1, 2)?

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

As usual your will to argue has you snapping at every last line I wrote with your perverted view on the truth.

If you stuck to only one idea, I wouldn't have to break it apart. The only difference between your style and my style of posting is a willingness to quote the other person for context. Even your reply towards Legga is doing the same 'snapping' as you'd call it. 

Are you really going to tell me the splits you did in your last two longposts weren't all a bunch of unrelated tangential points over how you see the world? 

Would it be easier on you if I split it into even more smaller posts, like four of them or something? 

 Actually, I'm having an intellectual discussion with Legga and showing him what I see. My approach isn't pessimistic nor am I fencing with every single thing he has to say like your repetitive agenda time and time again.

Do you see the difference between a progressive discussion and one that's filled with nonsense ?

Even now as I respond to you, it's over you crying penalties. It's Legga's time okay ?