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So I’m always depressed and manic at the same times?
Ha a young upwardly mobile at the opera I’m skeptical of your interest.
Everyone loves the opera, but I guess I’m not the correct person to declare that everyone likes anything. I’m an old soul. I love my opera, golf, basic clothes, no internet, I pretty much have all traditional values and I even solitaire and sudoku, and cross word puzzles and stuff. There are a lot more, but I’m lazy. Basically, I think everyone cool loves the opera.
So I’m always depressed and manic at the same times?
Are you going to talk about something other than yourself in my topic? Like perhaps, the composers in question? Perhaps try listening to the last Bach piece I posted and analyze what he did there... Surely someone who is as versed in classical as you claim will be able to figure out the technique and appreciate it.
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Mozart melts my heart. His music represents exactly how my brain works. It’s complicated and there are changes in the tempo that seem random, but it’s really just telling a very intricate and varied story about life. Okay, I got a little carried away there, but I get bored of the other two. Beethoven’s my second favorite because I get bored after a longer period of time, but my least favorite is Bach. I can’t handle the repetition. It just feels safe to me and I need excitement, or at least my brain does. Simulation is probably more accurate, but they all have some good songs, but Mozart gets me.
I wouldn't call Bach repetitious. He touched on a lot of instruments and styles and did a lot of different things with them. Although he is very baroque which might explain how one could view his stuff as less dynamic than others. But anyway he's known for his fugues which involves up to five independent musical lines interlocking on a single musical theme and no other composer has gotten close to him on that style. It's very complex but I'd understand why some don't like him, because the complexity can make it very rich and not suited for casual listening.
I love stuff like that. The truth is, I listen to my pandora station called classical music, so I don’t really check who the music is by, I just press the thumbs up button, or the thumbs down button and then keep listening, so what u did to see which one I liked best was listen to the best of each one videos on YouTube and I recognized the first song of each, so I based it off of that song, and I recognized the image of Mozart in the best of video as one I’ve seen a lot as the pictures used on Pandora for the songs that belong to the album or whatever.
I chose Mozart because the first song was so good I washed to finish listening to it before I went to write about it here. I also keep listening to his best of video and haven’t gotten bored of a song yet. Also, the other two, I got bored either within a minute and a half in or four minutes in. I like songs from all of them, but Mozart is addicting. It makes me feel like doing ballet or contemporary dancing.
I skipped ahead in the Bach video and he does have complicated stuff too, but it’s not as inviting. His music that is complicated is too disjointed for me. It’s almost like it never comes together. It’s just pieces of music thrown on top of each other. It doesn’t flow or paint a picture. It’s more like my thoughts if viewed in isolation. They’re chaotic and make no sense when they happen.
They just layer on top of each other, and the only thing that makes them related is that they are happening at the same time/in the same song. Where’s Mozart’s music organized the chaos so it makes sense when you hear it. Kind of like what I do when I write my thoughts down in the chat part of the site. What I’m trying to say is that Bach is more work.
It’s like my brain is trying to organize his notes so they make more sense. It’s probably better for making you smarter, but I always do that 24/7 in my own head. Classical music is supposed to be relaxing for me when I listen to it, but there is a time for Bach, which is when I’m bored.
Now let me mix things up and introduce Igor Stravinsky into the fray. He's a 20th century composer and was known for breaking many musical rules and incorporating dissonance in an interesting way. In particular his rite of spring is a good one-
Sounds like he’s trying to tune his instrument. I prefer works of art, not band practice sessions.
It's very complex but I'd understand why some don't like him, because the complexity can make it very rich and not suited for casual listening.
Complexity in music is pointless if it doesn't sound any good.
For example:This is true, but in the case of Bach he is often referred to as the master of complexity in classical music, especially in terms of polyphony. Take "The Well Tempered Clavier". It's only played with a keyboard so in that way it's minimal (one instrument type) but the layered keyboard melodic lines create something truly profound. I personally prefer this version on the harpsichord the most-
See... I like this, but it’s the bare minimum I’d require to be considered good. Every time I start to get bored, he switches it up before I can decide to turn it off, so it’s good enough, but not great. It’s very repetitive to me because I prefer rapid changes that aren’t just the same like pattern with different notes.
Actually Turncoat, I sent the well tempered clavier as an example of Bach's contrapuntal genius, but a more consise example of what makes him so great is probably this 6 part fugue-
Yeah, it needs more variety with the sounds. I feel like it’s missing another deeper sound with a random pattern. I think that old really help it be less boring. It’s just the same pitch or range it whatever you call it. Yeah, the pitch needs to have more range. It needs anything to make it not sound like nails on a chalk board the entire time.
So I’m always depressed and manic at the same times?
Are you going to talk about something other than yourself in my topic? Like perhaps, the composers in question? Perhaps try listening to the last Bach piece I posted and analyze what he did there... Surely someone who is as versed in classical as you claim will be able to figure out the technique and appreciate it.
Bro, I did that already. I don’t appreciate it. It hurts my ears.
Mozart melts my heart. His music represents exactly how my brain works. It’s complicated and there are changes in the tempo that seem random, but it’s really just telling a very intricate and varied story about life. Okay, I got a little carried away there, but I get bored of the other two. Beethoven’s my second favorite because I get bored after a longer period of time, but my least favorite is Bach. I can’t handle the repetition. It just feels safe to me and I need excitement, or at least my brain does. Simulation is probably more accurate, but they all have some good songs, but Mozart gets me.
I wouldn't call Bach repetitious. He touched on a lot of instruments and styles and did a lot of different things with them. Although he is very baroque which might explain how one could view his stuff as less dynamic than others. But anyway he's known for his fugues which involves up to five independent musical lines interlocking on a single musical theme and no other composer has gotten close to him on that style. It's very complex but I'd understand why some don't like him, because the complexity can make it very rich and not suited for casual listening.
I love stuff like that. The truth is, I listen to my pandora station called classical music, so I don’t really check who the music is by, I just press the thumbs up button, or the thumbs down button and then keep listening, so what u did to see which one I liked best was listen to the best of each one videos on YouTube and I recognized the first song of each, so I based it off of that song, and I recognized the image of Mozart in the best of video as one I’ve seen a lot as the pictures used on Pandora for the songs that belong to the album or whatever.
I chose Mozart because the first song was so good I washed to finish listening to it before I went to write about it here. I also keep listening to his best of video and haven’t gotten bored of a song yet. Also, the other two, I got bored either within a minute and a half in or four minutes in. I like songs from all of them, but Mozart is addicting. It makes me feel like doing ballet or contemporary dancing.
I skipped ahead in the Bach video and he does have complicated stuff too, but it’s not as inviting. His music that is complicated is too disjointed for me. It’s almost like it never comes together. It’s just pieces of music thrown on top of each other. It doesn’t flow or paint a picture. It’s more like my thoughts if viewed in isolation. They’re chaotic and make no sense when they happen.
They just layer on top of each other, and the only thing that makes them related is that they are happening at the same time/in the same song. Where’s Mozart’s music organized the chaos so it makes sense when you hear it. Kind of like what I do when I write my thoughts down in the chat part of the site. What I’m trying to say is that Bach is more work.
It’s like my brain is trying to organize his notes so they make more sense. It’s probably better for making you smarter, but I always do that 24/7 in my own head. Classical music is supposed to be relaxing for me when I listen to it, but there is a time for Bach, which is when I’m bored.
Tell me what you think of this one-
The visualizer of notes may help you make sense of the perceived chaos and see that it is actually quite harmonized. Mind you, Bach actually IMPROVISED this piece when he first made it which is just insane levels of genius.