Sociopath Community

Good said: 

Cain and Spatial are right in general btw. Cawk was posting pictures that are disruptive. However, they are wrong that the community cares imo. And this is all that really matters.

On the discord server that I administrate, I would of made Cawk unable to post pictures. And no one would care to even check if its within the rules, except maybe Cawk. And his complaining would fall on deaf years, while being reassured that its noted.

This is the real you though, and I know it, and I can smell it a mile away. This is why I have very big concerns with you being fit to admin SC.

Edvard said: 

Good said: 

Cain and Spatial are right in general btw. Cawk was posting pictures that are disruptive. However, they are wrong that the community cares imo. And this is all that really matters.

On the discord server that I administrate, I would of made Cawk unable to post pictures. And no one would care to even check if its within the rules, except maybe Cawk. And his complaining would fall on deaf years, while being reassured that its noted.

This is the real you though, and I know it, and I can smell it a mile away. This is why I have very big concerns with you being fit to admin SC.

I know and I know you are misguided.

Do you ever do the questioning game? Ask the question why.

Why do I administrate a discord server? Because I have fun doing it. Why? Because its a little economic game and governing game, with some diplomacy involved. And I do occasionally like to express my authority without actually saying that i have it, but this is a guilty pleasure and nothing more. I do it even when i dont have mod powers in other contexts.

Why do I want to be the site admin here? Because I want primal out. I do not want to be the site admin for any other reason. Why? We all know why by now.

Why did I make the forum? For primal reasons, because I like to make software, its a hobby and because people I respect asked me to.

At which point is power abuse involved?

Why would I power abuse? I can only think of reasons you made up in your mind, but none that I believe. Such as: "I am immature" <- but you never showed how, just because you are a 'good' people reader. You may bring up something that has no bearing on the situation, because you mix up contexts. You think it because of how I acted in the past, except in all my actions, the results of them were never negative, they were always as i planned. You do not look at the results, you look at the activities. What you fail to understand is that I acted in such a way, because I wanted to. And if i dont want to, i wont. And I always state exactly what i want and what i dont want. And I stated what i want here and what i will not do(because i dont want to). I am only restricted by my self and my principles, which make sure that i do not act against my word.
So i will never want to power abuse, because i said i wont and i will honor that, because of my principles, which i follow because i want to(because of other reasons that i wont go into, or it will take another page of text).

Then there was the 'gullible and naive', you have no idea how naive that makes you sound to me lol. It takes too much to be my friend, that i have started to lower my standards, i have been a little unrealistic. I can't comment more, because the situations are so rare and extreme, they are too private.

And the last one: i am emotional. I have asked people about it, just to be sure, they seem to disagree. I have no evidence where I acted emotional outside of the emotional context: aka where my emotions influenced actions i took where the emotions themselves were not relevant. I like contexts and i like to work within them. If I am angry at someone, i will never be angry at anyone or anything else, to express my anger that i have for the other person. So if you annoy me, i wont ban you, because banning is part of the site administration and my fight with you is part of the forum dynamic.

You just need to be a little more calculated/methodical/streamlined and you will see it, as i do.

Not sure if this helped you, but its always useful to me, to write down my thoughts.

Cain said: 

I think the bans are just. There are some members who need to keep the spam to a minimal. If your actions are upsetting and irritating the island; dont be surprised when you get voted off.

 i didn't post it in a spammed manner. youre trying to change the com into a hug group, try again

if you cant handle an adult taking a dildo up his ass, you shouldnt be on a site named sociopath community. besides, you could just block me if you weren't as insecure as you are to still read my messages

Spatial Mind said: 

Kestrel said: 

Yeah I don't support cawk being kicked. There is no nsfw channel, the content is fine and where he posted it is allowed.

I also didn't support sandman being kicked for posting a lot of selfies. By the instances of these two scenarios blanc, slay, tpg and turq could all be potentially kicked for these reasons.

Don't like him, block him. He isn't breaking rules and the pic at most is posted once every 2-3 hours on average

 Even Jim wanted Cawk banned, and it never went that far.

 lol r u really surprised a borderline personality retarded would do that

Good said: 

Edvard said: 

Good said: 

Cain and Spatial are right in general btw. Cawk was posting pictures that are disruptive. However, they are wrong that the community cares imo. And this is all that really matters.

On the discord server that I administrate, I would of made Cawk unable to post pictures. And no one would care to even check if its within the rules, except maybe Cawk. And his complaining would fall on deaf years, while being reassured that its noted.

This is the real you though, and I know it, and I can smell it a mile away. This is why I have very big concerns with you being fit to admin SC.

I know and I know you are misguided.

Do you ever do the questioning game? Ask the question why.

Why would he when he is already convinced from the start that he must be right as a matter of conviction? 

Edvard said:

Nature and a healthy brain has us be convinced of our reality. When you start doubting everything you consider true or real, you become an unbalanced mess and a failure in life. Natural selection ensured that the ones who do not suffer from this get to be successful specimens.

Why would I power abuse? I can only think of reasons you made up in your mind, but none that I believe. Such as: "I am immature" <- but you never showed how, just because you are a 'good' people reader.

It is after that point that he falls back on "We'll see" and "Time will tell", aka not real arguments. 

And the last one: i am emotional. I have asked people about it, just to be sure, they seem to disagree.

If I used this as proof I'd only be convincing myself of the things I wish to convince others of. 

They can only tell you what you tell them. 

Inquirer said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

You can't put personal truth into practice. Otherwise we'll have professionals splitting off in different directions with different beliefs that that produce false results.

 

You conflate objective facts with value claims. The question here isn't whether Cawk was disruptive or not, he seemingly was, but what the best way to deal with this kind of behavior is. That gets us into the realm of opinions and knock-on effects.

Even if your method of dealing with Cawk was the best one (perhaps it was) the fact that you improvised made the mod action personal and inconsistent, something which I think we should generally try to avoid. Clearly we have ample evidence to suggest that mods imposing their own ideas of right and wrong has the potential to be even more disruptive to the community than spam, right?

My proposed rule would be that excessive spam is punished with a timeout.

 I didn't spam though. I posted that image in intervals of hours.

seerx said: 

At least you stopped.

 Im scared to post that image again. I feel like i'll get banned if i do it once more

Good said: 

Cain and Spatial are right in general btw. Cawk was posting pictures that are disruptive. However, they are wrong that the community cares imo. And this is all that really matters.

On the discord server that I administrate, I would of made Cawk unable to post pictures. And no one would care to even check if its within the rules, except maybe Cawk. And his complaining would fall on deaf years, while being reassured that its noted. Because the people there, deep down in their hearts, or for some not so deep, agree with this decision. Because I know the target audience of the discord server I am in. And my concern there is to keep them happy, so they can bring traffic(unless being unhappy will bring more traffic). And I will achieve that by any means necessary. Everything else is for show.

But SC is different, people want it to be a lawless badlands. This is why Ed hates my ultimatum. I infringed on the rules of SC conduct. And so has Spatial.
The only reasonable course of action left for Spatial and/or Cain is to change the rules of conduct? I doubt this is what they want or that will happen, but it is interesting.

 The rules are known but unwritten, one of them being against anything that can bring ruin to the usability of the site.

For the members that don't care, i imagine they still might not care when consistent faggotry shrinks the community until that's all the content they have left, as there are 5 members put off by the same garbage.

Cawk said: 

Cain said: 

I think the bans are just. There are some members who need to keep the spam to a minimal. If your actions are upsetting and irritating the island; dont be surprised when you get voted off.

 i didn't post it in a spammed manner. youre trying to change the com into a hug group, try again

if you cant handle an adult taking a dildo up his ass, you shouldnt be on a site named sociopath community. besides, you could just block me if you weren't as insecure as you are to still read my messages

 I did block you. And typically im antagonistic to others; thus defeating the notion that I'm convinced the discord group is a hug group for feelings and love.

The insecurity notion is presumptuous and requires no retort.

Also; i havent changed any rules; or made any rules in the discord. Im a "regular user" with no interest in moderation- but lots of interest in fanning flames.