Sociopath Community

Cain said: 

I think the bans are just. There are some members who need to keep the spam to a minimal. If your actions are upsetting and irritating the island; dont be surprised when you get voted off.

Personally i wouldn't allow pictures to be posted or shared in general chat. (Even though i enjoy it greatly) Nobody wants to see your ugly mug over and over again. Nobody wants to see the same gay ass photo again and again either. 

It should be embarrassing to the poster because its signifying that you have nothing valuable to contribute; so you just destroy the flow of chat and current conversations with pettiness. 

Suck it up buttercup; nobody loves you.

 Finally some peace of mind.

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

I warned you... so you did it to yourself.

This kind of logic can become toxic. 

That's a poor opinion. What's toxic is the action that kills the community. 

The way that you phrase it there makes it clearly egoist, the "I warned you" thing. This is largely why it's good to have a precedent set instead of allowing people to improvise. 

You post filth, fine, but that kind of faggotry is something we see then intend to forget, but when it's constantly posted several times a day it becomes a real issue when the image is forcefully burned into the memory of the user base who is utterly repulsed by it.

It should get easier to tolerate it overtime, and again, setting a precedent makes it significantly less dramatic and more streamline. In the end the room for interpretation is neutered from it. 

I'm not going to start bringing up names but there is a significant number of members that don't want to watch it anymore. It does more damage than good to the community when members are basically forced to stare into a toilet bowl full of shit. 

So have them block some users, done deal. 

My logic is sound, because a community is better than none.

Your logic poses risks towards the community as well. 

P.S. Ed's opinion is rigged therefore it holds no merit, again.

Well yeah, that's already understood and taken for granted. 

Everything is ego, why should it matter how I seem ?

At the least he was told in advance what would happen if he didn't knock it off, but he was dumb.

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As for my logic posing risk for the community ? LOL.

Turncoat said:

Your logic poses risks towards the community as well.

Everything I do, and what I've done contributes big time to the community. Even every post I've written here, in this very thread is SC gold as a matter of fact.

I won't sugar coat it, and this isn't my ideology, but the truth is most people don't give a shit about Cawk, while the majority was pleased with him getting kicked today. Again, not my ideology, it's just the way it is.

Jim himself said ban the needy fucker today. Not to sound authoritative or anything, as I know you're sensitive to that, but I let him off with a kick. That's not abusive, while less abusive than burning a repulsive image into the minds of members. Some of which have ditched SC before, over such antics.

Even Vard advocates banning Cawk, more than I do. MAJOR TRUTH.

And Vard, he can't process that fact right now, he just wants to advertise how much we'll miss Luna, and why wouldn't he ? We've all known for years how he's a tool out of his own neediness. On that note he has some serious attachment issues. Like damn. I don't hate Luna or anything, but I'm not worried about her not being on top anymore lol. Let her detach from people in peace.  

Well I don't want Cawk banned/kicked, if we are voicing opinions now.
But it honestly doesnt matter, i will get over his ban in a matter of seconds

Spatial Mind said: 

Everything is ego, why should it matter how I seem ?

There's multiple ways to display the ego, and in the end it comes down to the expressions' level of collateral damages. In such cases by aiming to leave as little change as possible beyond making needed patterns be pre-established, you ensure equilibrium in lieu of other problems. 

At the least he was told in advance what would happen if he didn't knock it off, but he was dumb.

This is like when TK began warning Meta to shut up and he didn't. 

It's about precedent and setting an example. It's not just as simple as if you did something, it's also the "how" and the "why". 

As for my logic posing risk for the community ? LOL.

When you start drawing lines, that's when they can use that to do more damage. It tests your emotions and your sense of consistency, and when they can get a response out of you that typically means they are winning. 

Surprises start drama, and drama is where changes can happen. 

Turncoat said:

Your logic poses risks towards the community as well.

Everything I do, and what I've done contributes big time to the community. Even every post I've written here, in this very thread is SC gold as a matter of fact.

It's a staple, a classic, but I wouldn't even call my own stuff "Gold". 

I won't sugar coat it, and this isn't my ideology, but the truth is most people don't give a shit about Cawk, while the majority was pleased with him getting kicked today. Again, not my ideology, it's just the way it is.

This poses tons of clique-ish ingroup risks, and makes it about trying to become "The Cool Kids Club". 

Next thing you know you'll be trying to have it be a protected board where only the approved are allowed to talk, like you proposed back on S-C. 

Slippery slope, and we need to work hard to not turn this into some sort of gated community hugbox neutered of it's culture and variety. 

Jim himself said ban the needy fucker today.

...do you even figure why he'd say that? You've used his backpat as fuel twice in this discussion already. 

Don't risk being a tool others can just use, you think you're better than that. 

Not to sound authoritative or anything, as I know you're sensitive to that, but I let him off with a kick.

It causes chain reactions, and you're just focusing on an outlet for your feelings while they still feel overstimulating. 

Some tea and some quiet time should show you the error of such choices. 

That's not abusive, while less abusive than burning a repulsive image into the minds of members. Some of which have ditched SC before, over such antics.

Advise they block them or make a role that can't post images: Problem Solved. 

Even Vard advocates banning Cawk, more than I do. MAJOR TRUTH.

You're aiming to use a list of people behind you to justify an act that is otherwise outside of character. 

At the end of the day, the kick/ban won't matter, but how you handled it will be everything. This is how reputations are made. 

And Vard, he can't process that fact right now, he just wants to advertise how much we'll miss Luna, and why wouldn't he? We've all known for years how he's a tool out of his own neediness. On that note he has some serious attachment issues. Like damn. I don't hate Luna or anything, but I'm not worried about her not being on top anymore lol. Let her detach from people in peace.  

Yeah... but your bias about him that makes sense to have currently distracts from the real subject here: You. 

If your actions are disruptive and destructive to the community- those actions are essentially saying you dont care about being in it; rather your amusement comes from its destruction. 

When the rest of the groups focus is to share general banter and stay together as a group. The "rock in the shoe" should be removed before continuing the walk.

If the rock in the shoe is sorry and wont do it again. Then welcome back aboard; needless to say you are on thin ice little rock. 

As far as muting others goes. Its annoying to mute somebody and the next day be out of the loop of the current conversation because one of the parties carrying the talk is blocked by you. Not that my muting clorox has causes any issue on the server; clorox doesnt contribute anything anyways.

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Everything is ego, why should it matter how I seem ?

There's multiple ways to display the ego, and in the end it comes down to the expressions' level of collateral damages. In such cases by aiming to leave as little change as possible beyond making needed patterns be pre-established, you ensure equilibrium in lieu of other problems. 

Yes Snowflake. And in this case, those patterns keep members. SC did lose HALF of it's community before and in my opinion it's a bit critical to be losing members at this point in time.

Was I mean to Cawk ? Yes. Were people delighted ? Absolutely. Are people upset with my personality in how I handled Cawk ? Only you. It's like you want a safe space from big bad ego in SC. In SC Turncoat, IN SC.

At the least he was told in advance what would happen if he didn't knock it off, but he was dumb.

This is like when TK began warning Meta to shut up and he didn't. 

It's about precedent and setting an example. It's not just as simple as if you did something, it's also the "how" and the "why". 

You're ignoring the "why" and deluding yourself into thinking I was power tripping. Maybe while you prop yourself up with "look at me, which mod is best".  I'll tell you again, many were annoyed with the faggotry and never wanted to see it anymore. Had I known I was able to silence Cawk's ability to post images in discord I would have cooled him off with that instead.

Again, that image being constantly posted WILL cause members to go elsewhere, and it's foolish to let it carry on if we wish a successful community.

Look what happened to EC. We had members like Cawk, Edvard, and a few other SC members I don't care to mention, destroy EC with material that repels members.

 

As for my logic posing risk for the community ? LOL.

When you start drawing lines, that's then they can use that to do more damage. It tests your emotions and your sense of consistency, and when they can get a response out of you that typically means they are winning. 

Surprises start drama, and drama is where changes can happen. 

Yeah well I don't really think like a cuck, and I'll push back. It's not me drawing lines either. If the material makes me gag, that's not me drawing lines. When the material makes the community gag, same shit, so I did something about it.

I'm not the only one who doesn't want to see it again, it's a quality of life issue. I'm close to bailing actually, this is becoming pointless.

 

Turncoat said:

Your logic poses risks towards the community as well.

Everything I do, and what I've done contributes big time to the community. Even every post I've written here, in this very thread is SC gold as a matter of fact.

It's a staple, a classic, but I wouldn't even call my own stuff "Gold". 

This is SC gold. Just because I'm the first to point it out, doesn't mean I'm being conceited. Isn't this what we do in SC ? So happens it is.

Look at this. Cawk looks dumb. Ed looks dumb. Meanwhile, they are. And your argument isn't working that well for you either.

I won't sugar coat it, and this isn't my ideology, but the truth is most people don't give a shit about Cawk, while the majority was pleased with him getting kicked today. Again, not my ideology, it's just the way it is.

This poses tons of clique-ish ingroup risks, and makes it about trying to become "The Cool Kids Club". 

Next thing you know you'll be trying to have it be a protected board where only the approved are allowed to talk, like you proposed back on S-C. 

Slippery slope, and we need to work hard to not turn this into some sort of gated community hugbox neutered of it's culture and variety. 

No. It does not make it about trying to become part of the cool club. It's just raw truth. You seem to be having issues accepting it. Don't resist those facts. The Truth is unbeatable, and if you struggle to agree with it, you'll surely lose. No risks. I promise.  

 

Jim himself said ban the needy fucker today.

...do you even figure why he'd say that? You've used his backpat as fuel twice in this discussion already. 

Don't risk being a tool others can just use, you think you're better than that. 

So now I did this on Jim's command now ?

I stress even Jim said so to convey the level of demand for something to be done. Coming from Jim, that is extreme.

 

Not to sound authoritative or anything, as I know you're sensitive to that, but I let him off with a kick.

It causes chain reactions, and you're just focusing on an outlet for your feelings while they still feel overstimulating. 

Some tea and some quiet time should show you the error of such choices. 

That's not abusive, while less abusive than burning a repulsive image into the minds of members. Some of which have ditched SC before, over such antics.

Advise they block them or make a role that can't post images: Problem Solved. 

Even Vard advocates banning Cawk, more than I do. MAJOR TRUTH.

You're aiming to use a list of people behind you to justify an act that is otherwise outside of character. 

At the end of the day, the kick/ban won't matter, but how you handled it will be everything. This is how reputations are made. 

And Vard, he can't process that fact right now, he just wants to advertise how much we'll miss Luna, and why wouldn't he? We've all known for years how he's a tool out of his own neediness. On that note he has some serious attachment issues. Like damn. I don't hate Luna or anything, but I'm not worried about her not being on top anymore lol. Let her detach from people in peace.  

Yeah... but your bias about him that makes sense to have currently distracts from the real subject here: You. 

 I couldn't bother reading the rest. I can feel this clawing away on the same energies that produce success in life.

I only have the truth, and it's not all that important to me if it's perverted in your mind.

Cain said: 

If your actions are disruptive and destructive to the community- those actions are essentially saying you dont care about being in it; rather your amusement comes from its destruction. 

"Disruptive" is such a perspective word, the same sorts that people like Luna tried to get away with. That shouldn't be grounds for kicking or banning, that can be milled down and dealt with more maturely than that. 

It's good to have boundaries set in advance so that people expect what comes next instead of improvising in ways that give room for differing perspectives. 

When the rest of the groups focus is to share general banter and stay together as a group. The "rock in the shoe" should be removed before continuing the walk.

If the rock in the shoe is sorry and wont do it again. Then welcome back aboard; needless to say you are on thin ice little rock. 

This is the starting of dangerous thinking. 

As far as muting others goes. Its annoying to mute somebody and the next day be out of the loop of the current conversation because one of the parties carrying the talk is blocked by you.

You can click the "1 Blocked Message" thing to see the context. It's a non-issue that is related to your tolerance. 

Why justify weakness like that? 

Not that my muting clorox has causes any issue on the server; clorox doesnt contribute anything anyways.

Exactly, problem solved with no need to ego the fuck out. 

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Everything is ego, why should it matter how I seem ?

There's multiple ways to display the ego, and in the end it comes down to the expressions' level of collateral damages. In such cases by aiming to leave as little change as possible beyond making needed patterns be pre-established, you ensure equilibrium in lieu of other problems. 

Yes Snowflake. And in this case, those patterns keep members. SC did lose HALF of it's community before and in my opinion it's a bit critical to be losing members at this point in time.

Was I mean to Cawk ? Yes. Were people delighted ? Absolutely.

Do you know how many times I've heard this kind of talk from people modding discord servers right before things went to shit? 

"They loved it" means nothing, your reputation and consistency means everything. It's about accountability, and this freedom to improvise is showing itself to be the beginning of something ugly. 

Are people upset with my personality in how I handled Cawk ? Only you. It's like you want a safe space from big bad ego in SC. In SC Turncoat, IN SC.

Do you not even see how so many mods before you have fallen from this sort of behavior? 

It's not only me, and it will be even more people as time goes on, especially if you keep flaunting your "power" like this. 

Showing off power has a way of having people want to prove that it's not really there. 

At the least he was told in advance what would happen if he didn't knock it off, but he was dumb.

This is like when TK began warning Meta to shut up and he didn't. 

It's about precedent and setting an example. It's not just as simple as if you did something, it's also the "how" and the "why". 

You're ignoring the "why" and deluding yourself into thinking I was power tripping.

First your flipping out about Blanc skipping some song you liked, then this. You're already two strikes into the establishment of bad patterns. 

I still expect you to realize what you're doing here once you've calmed down, you just aren't there yet. 

Maybe while you prop yourself up with "look at me, which mod is best".  I'll tell you again, many were annoyed with the faggotry and never wanted to see it anymore. Had I known I was able to silence Cawk's ability to post images in discord I would have cooled him off with that instead.

I'm not making comparisons, I'm discussing process, a process you're perfectly capable of seeing the logic in and following otherwise.

I know you're otherwise better than this. 

Again, that image being constantly posted WILL cause members to go elsewhere, and it's foolish to let it carry on if we wish a successful community.

So make him be in a role that can't post images or have people block him: Problem Solved. 

Look what happened to EC. We had members like Cawk, Edvard, and a few other SC members I don't care to mention, destroy EC with material that repels members.

It was destroyed because of mods acting out, not the content itself. It was swim suit models meant to principally trigger, not actual CP. 

It established how easily people with power there could be triggered and made to do foolish behaviors, and that set the precedent that said "EC is no better than S-C". 

This is actually a perfect example of what happens when as a mod you express excessive sensitivities, thank you. 

As for my logic posing risk for the community ? LOL.

When you start drawing lines, that's then they can use that to do more damage. It tests your emotions and your sense of consistency, and when they can get a response out of you that typically means they are winning. 

Surprises start drama, and drama is where changes can happen. 

Yeah well I don't really think like a cuck, and I'll push back. It's not me drawing lines either. If the material makes me gag, that's not me drawing lines. When the material makes the community gag, same shit, so I did something about it.

I'm not the only one who doesn't want to see it again, it's a quality of life issue. I'm close to bailing actually, this is becoming pointless.

You mean you're close to giving up and you're acting out as a result of nearing a breaking point. 

There's other mods there, you can take a breather on the Discord and things will still be fine. You don't even have to leave the position if you don't want to, just chill out. 

Turncoat said:

Your logic poses risks towards the community as well.

Everything I do, and what I've done contributes big time to the community. Even every post I've written here, in this very thread is SC gold as a matter of fact.

It's a staple, a classic, but I wouldn't even call my own stuff "Gold". 

This is SC gold. Just because I'm the first to point it out, doesn't mean I'm being conceited. Isn't this what we do in SC? So happens it is.

I don't really see what it has to do with the situation. It sounds almost like you're trying to excuse your actions and mistakes by saying that it'll make for good :popcorn: . 

Look at this. Cawk looks dumb. Ed looks dumb. Meanwhile, they are. And your argument isn't working that well for you either.

Being dumb isn't a crime. Misusing one's sense of "power" and causing chaos is. 

I won't sugar coat it, and this isn't my ideology, but the truth is most people don't give a shit about Cawk, while the majority was pleased with him getting kicked today. Again, not my ideology, it's just the way it is.

This poses tons of clique-ish ingroup risks, and makes it about trying to become "The Cool Kids Club". 

Next thing you know you'll be trying to have it be a protected board where only the approved are allowed to talk, like you proposed back on S-C. 

Slippery slope, and we need to work hard to not turn this into some sort of gated community hugbox neutered of it's culture and variety. 

No. It does not make it about trying to become part of the cool club. It's just raw truth. You seem to be having issues accepting it. Don't resist those facts. The Truth is unbeatable, and if you struggle to agree with it, you'll surely lose. No risks. I promise.  

This argument serves to ignore the points being made and make it about "common sense" or some shit. 

You ought to know by now from past talks with me that I don't think there is a "Truth", or if there is that it is outside of human reach. We only have "Personal Truth" from living a life of projective understandings. 

Jim himself said ban the needy fucker today.

...do you even figure why he'd say that? You've used his backpat as fuel twice in this discussion already. 

Don't risk being a tool others can just use, you think you're better than that. 

So now I did this on Jim's command now ?

I stress even Jim said so to convey the level of demand for something to be done. Coming from Jim, that is extreme.

I'm saying that the risk is clearly there when you're willing to use him as an example of why it's okay unprovoked, twice. 

Not to sound authoritative or anything, as I know you're sensitive to that, but I let him off with a kick.

It causes chain reactions, and you're just focusing on an outlet for your feelings while they still feel overstimulating. 

Some tea and some quiet time should show you the error of such choices. 

That's not abusive, while less abusive than burning a repulsive image into the minds of members. Some of which have ditched SC before, over such antics.

Advise they block them or make a role that can't post images: Problem Solved. 

Even Vard advocates banning Cawk, more than I do. MAJOR TRUTH.

You're aiming to use a list of people behind you to justify an act that is otherwise outside of character. 

At the end of the day, the kick/ban won't matter, but how you handled it will be everything. This is how reputations are made. 

And Vard, he can't process that fact right now, he just wants to advertise how much we'll miss Luna, and why wouldn't he? We've all known for years how he's a tool out of his own neediness. On that note he has some serious attachment issues. Like damn. I don't hate Luna or anything, but I'm not worried about her not being on top anymore lol. Let her detach from people in peace.  

Yeah... but your bias about him that makes sense to have currently distracts from the real subject here: You. 

I couldn't bother reading the rest. I can feel this clawing away on the same energies that produce success in life.

I only have the truth, and it's not all that important to me if it's perverted in your mind.

 So in other words "the truth" is too much for you to stomach, and you're bowing out? 

You used to have more stamina than this. No wonder you're giving into "The Dark Side" more willingly these days.