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Dima79 said: 

F20.0 Paranoid schizophrenia
F20.1 Hebephrenic schizophrenia
F20.2 Catatonic schizophrenia
F20.3 Undifferentiated schizophrenia
F20.4 Post-schizophrenic depression
F20.5 Residual schizophrenia
F20.6 Simple type of schizophrenia
F20.7 Other type of schizophrenia

there are several types of schizophrenia. I have experience of communicating with other paranoid schizophrenics in Russian social networks for psychos and I can say for sure that we are very different. each of us had different families. each of us has completely different life experiences and education. much depends on the treatment regimen for schizophrenia. not all of us have access to modern antipsychotics. antipsychotics affect our mental state and our perception of reality and people. some of us got positive symptoms of schizophrenia in childhood, but most of us got it in adulthood only. schizophrenia progresses over the years. a young schizophrenic is different from a mature schizophrenic. I was a sentimental empath when I was young and truly loved my mother, my grandfather and animals, but over the years I lost the ability to empathize and love. I lost my sense of guilt and shame, I no longer have a conscience, I no longer feel grief and mourning for dead people, but my moral compass was created in my childhood and youth and I still use it, but there are schizophrenics who are complete degenerates and refuse treatment with antipsychotics. they periodically commit horrible crimes. in a state of anger, they can kill their own parents, children or neighbors' children, simply because they made a lot of noise in the yard ... in addition, we can behave differently throughout the year. it all depends on the current balance of neurotransmitters in our heads. antipsychotics not only block the positive symptoms of schizophrenia, but also suppress the activity of dopamine and serotonin receptors. that's why, we often suffer from our own indifference to life and people, and we get anhedonia.

ordinary people often think of schizophrenics as lazy, but this is not entirely true. simply abulia is one of the negative symptoms of schizophrenia. In addition, a positive symptom of schizophrenia is a gradual loss of interest in social life and work. In addition, irritability and anger are positive symptoms of schizophrenia, and communication with strangers whom we do not trust and do not want to see or hear is a great stress for us. our social circle is very narrow. we don't need to have many friends. In addition, at work, there are often intrigues between colleagues and all sorts of stressful situations, but we need peace and quiet. there is not much quiet work in this world with a small, silent team. :)

 That's amazing! I didn't know there were so many kinds, I knew there were variations, but that's a LOT!

 the American system of qualification of mental disorders differs from the European one, in addition, the Russian system has its own adapted version of the international qualification of disorders.

Cavalier said: 

1. He almost never acts psychotic on the forum, unlike say, Dima79. Even tryp and cs act crazy when they're not in chat.

2. As bitchy as he is, he has decent social skills, something that most people with schizophrenia seriously struggle with. He's able to make friends and meaningful relationships.

3. He has hypochondria, giving himself labels that benefit himself. Another example of this is how he is a trans-woman despite not having dysphoria, or trying to look feminine. And he loves giving himself diagnoses, to validate himself. He is completely capable of writing paragraphs of posts, but he is too lazy to get a job, and uses schizophrenia as an excuse. He is irrational because of his emotions (laziness, wanting to feel special, low self esteem at being a failure), rather than being emotional because of his cognitive issues (real schizophrenia).

4. Other than that, there is little that is irrational about him. He has good memory and can make coherent arguments spanning paragraphs long. Even his suicide attempts are well thought out. Once, he tried starving himself to death instead of doing something impulsive.

 From what I’ve heard of his background over the years, I think he’s very much a product of his environment. If he’d have had a more normal upbringing, with siblings, parents who treated him like a child rather than a third adult and gave him a clip round the ear when he was misbehaving, and went to a regular school where kids who were a bit weird got the crap beaten out of them every now and then then he’d probably be somewhat of a functional adult by now. 

im not saying there’s nothing wrong with him, there clearly is, but to come back here day after day consistently for years on end, reading and writing large volumes of text, shows a level of functioning above that of someone who should be claiming disability (unless there is something physically wrong with him). I don’t like to doubt someone’s mental illness, but to over a period of literally years to come here consistently and make sense - not having periods of depression where he didn’t feel like it, not spazzing out and having a paranoid episode on the forum etc - is a remarkable level of functioning and consistency even for someone with good mental health. 

It seems to be a kinda Thrill Kill situation where he’s picked a medical diagnosis in lieu of having a personality and now his entire sense of self revolves around being this special little snowflake who all the psychiatrists in the world can’t figure out. It’s probably an ego thing at this point, and I’ve wondered if maybe he feels a bit threatened by people like Blanc who seem to have stuff going on mentally that’s a bit more serious or complex than what he’s going through. 

There is a great disparity in the treatment of those with mental illness. 

a lot of them could benefit from cleation therapy but it’s only affordable for the extremely wealthy... 

it’s just unfair. Ya know?

in my own experience in the mental health care system I can say, it is what you make of it and you have to find your own way in it. Otherwise, it is basically ineffective. If not counterintuitive.

So For patients who are not well enough to navigate their own treatment and recovery, it’s a minefield. 

There is social workers trying to correct this with advocacy, and there is advocates in the health arena too. 

but it’s a full time job managing just 1 of these patients and many of them require multiple doctors caring for them in different ways. And come from horribly broken and desperate situations which there is no absolution from

manh doctors patient volume exceeds what their own mental capacity with What they can manage and thus care of individual patients and the thoroughness of their analysis and treatment is sacrificed 

And few psychiatrists and therapists are equipped or specialized enough to handle these disorders. And by the time they are, they are so old, they retire after only treating a small volume of patients who can afford their specialized high level of in depth care. 

many are tossed in and out of the asylums without ever seeing someone equipped enough to even help them 

insurance policies Barr them from staying longer than three days most of the time. 

has anyone cured their mental disorder in three days? 

Or they wind up homeless and in and out of the ER where doctors do nothing for them and discharge them. If you watch the girl on fire a movie, you will understand why this is negligent. Basically a lot of psychiatrist diagnoses have an origin that is actually easily solved by health related medicine and treatment. 

But instead they’re written off because they are homeless and have been sick and misunderstood for so long. 

The girl on fire is lucky because her parents cared and had money and didnt stop searching for answers 

but many are just cast aside and left to die

Gypsy said: 

Cavalier said: 

1. He almost never acts psychotic on the forum, unlike say, Dima79. Even tryp and cs act crazy when they're not in chat.

2. As bitchy as he is, he has decent social skills, something that most people with schizophrenia seriously struggle with. He's able to make friends and meaningful relationships.

3. He has hypochondria, giving himself labels that benefit himself. Another example of this is how he is a trans-woman despite not having dysphoria, or trying to look feminine. And he loves giving himself diagnoses, to validate himself. He is completely capable of writing paragraphs of posts, but he is too lazy to get a job, and uses schizophrenia as an excuse. He is irrational because of his emotions (laziness, wanting to feel special, low self esteem at being a failure), rather than being emotional because of his cognitive issues (real schizophrenia).

4. Other than that, there is little that is irrational about him. He has good memory and can make coherent arguments spanning paragraphs long. Even his suicide attempts are well thought out. Once, he tried starving himself to death instead of doing something impulsive.

 From what I’ve heard of his background over the years, I think he’s very much a product of his environment. If he’d have had a more normal upbringing, with siblings, parents who treated him like a child rather than a third adult and gave him a clip round the ear when he was misbehaving, and went to a regular school where kids who were a bit weird got the crap beaten out of them every now and then then he’d probably be somewhat of a functional adult by now. 

im not saying there’s nothing wrong with him, there clearly is, but to come back here day after day consistently for years on end, reading and writing large volumes of text, shows a level of functioning above that of someone who should be claiming disability (unless there is something physically wrong with him). I don’t like to doubt someone’s mental illness, but to over a period of literally years to come here consistently and make sense - not having periods of depression where he didn’t feel like it, not spazzing out and having a paranoid episode on the forum etc - is a remarkable level of functioning and consistency even for someone with good mental health. 

It seems to be a kinda Thrill Kill situation where he’s picked a medical diagnosis in lieu of having a personality and now his entire sense of self revolves around being this special little snowflake who all the psychiatrists in the world can’t figure out. It’s probably an ego thing at this point, and I’ve wondered if maybe he feels a bit threatened by people like Blanc who seem to have stuff going on mentally that’s a bit more serious or complex than what he’s going through. 

 Was he spoiled? Tell us more about his childhood. And your 2nd paragraph makes a lot of sense. He shouldn't be able to get SSIs.

And you brought up blanc, someone he has constantly ridiculed. It makes me disgusted that he would bash someone who is actually psychotic, and shows it a lot on the forum, but he himself wants sympathy for his "schizophrenia". I even recall him attacking blanc for not being successful or having a job. The irony. What a piece of shit.

Gypsy said: 

Cavalier said: 

1. He almost never acts psychotic on the forum, unlike say, Dima79. Even tryp and cs act crazy when they're not in chat.

2. As bitchy as he is, he has decent social skills, something that most people with schizophrenia seriously struggle with. He's able to make friends and meaningful relationships.

3. He has hypochondria, giving himself labels that benefit himself. Another example of this is how he is a trans-woman despite not having dysphoria, or trying to look feminine. And he loves giving himself diagnoses, to validate himself. He is completely capable of writing paragraphs of posts, but he is too lazy to get a job, and uses schizophrenia as an excuse. He is irrational because of his emotions (laziness, wanting to feel special, low self esteem at being a failure), rather than being emotional because of his cognitive issues (real schizophrenia).

4. Other than that, there is little that is irrational about him. He has good memory and can make coherent arguments spanning paragraphs long. Even his suicide attempts are well thought out. Once, he tried starving himself to death instead of doing something impulsive.

 From what I’ve heard of his background over the years, I think he’s very much a product of his environment. If he’d have had a more normal upbringing, with siblings, parents who treated him like a child rather than a third adult and gave him a clip round the ear when he was misbehaving, and went to a regular school where kids who were a bit weird got the crap beaten out of them every now and then then he’d probably be somewhat of a functional adult by now. 

You think this is enough to counteract a debilitating mental disorder? 

What are you, the 50s? 

im not saying there’s nothing wrong with him, there clearly is, but to come back here day after day consistently for years on end, reading and writing large volumes of text, shows a level of functioning above that of someone who should be claiming disability (unless there is something physically wrong with him).

You must not browse too much internet, as I'd say overly long post lengths are more of a sign of disorder rather than less, especially within the bounds of Schizophrenia. 

From red string walls, to crazy conspiracy theories in the forms of blogs and/or Youtube, to novels of other worlds, to even Timecube or the dude who posted by himself on a Buffy forum, or even Blanc, I'd say that someone who puts abnormal amounts of effort into seemingly unimportant things tends to show disorder rather than functionality, outletting that energy through a means that makes sense to them potentially beyond convention. 

I don’t like to doubt someone’s mental illness, but to over a period of literally years to come here consistently and make sense - not having periods of depression where he didn’t feel like it, not spazzing out and having a paranoid episode on the forum etc - is a remarkable level of functioning and consistency even for someone with good mental health. 

So you're going with TV Schizophrenia being Schizophrenia like Berk was doing, where behaviors aren't really disorderly unless it looks like something like Sybil. 

It seems to be a kinda Thrill Kill situation where he’s picked a medical diagnosis in lieu of having a personality and now his entire sense of self revolves around being this special little snowflake who all the psychiatrists in the world can’t figure out. It’s probably an ego thing at this point, and I’ve wondered if maybe he feels a bit threatened by people like Blanc who seem to have stuff going on mentally that’s a bit more serious or complex than what he’s going through. 

Before bothering to clarify further, how much do you actually know of my diagnostic story? 

Cavalier said: 

And you brought up blanc, someone he has constantly ridiculed. It makes me disgusted that he would bash someone who is actually psychotic, and shows it a lot on the forum, but he himself wants sympathy for his "schizophrenia". I even recall him attacking blanc for not being successful or having a job. The irony. What a piece of shit.

Who don't I bash or ridicule though? 

European and American diagnostic systems r the same

ddddddd said: 

European and American diagnostic systems r the same

there is american DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of mental disorders) and International Classification of Diseases (ICD). I was wrong. the international classification of diseases was created by WHO, and not by European psychiatrists, as I thought. but there are differences in these qualifications. Russian psychiatrists have only accepted their adapted version of the international classification, and this creates additional confusion for me.

Germany (Europe) uses icd-10 in clinical practice. Dsm 5 is only used in research. Personally I like the icd 10 for work, cause it is easy. Dsm 5 is better if you want more information and explanation.