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It's also Delora's responsibility to deal with her own feelings, though.

 Because a husband should not defend his wife or attempt to comfort her?

 Not remotely what I said, but while you're at it, it depends on circumstance.

 I didn't say that's what you said, I was asking if that's your conclusion

 Why would that be my conclusion?

 Idk, br is my husband, and you seem to find fault on a husband (br) trying to defend his wife (me) so it kinda seemed that way

 Does him being your husband make it any different than anyone else defending you?

 I don't know, that's a good question. Can't really say, what do you think?

Not really.  I think depending on the particular relationship, closeness can make a defender's credibility more or less suspect.  Typically more, I suppose, given the myriad of potential biases and faulty motivations.  But you really seemed to emphasize that he was your husband, as if this was very relevant to his defense and my opinion of it.  Why?

 So people should only defend people they don't love?

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It's also Delora's responsibility to deal with her own feelings, though.

 Because a husband should not defend his wife or attempt to comfort her?

 Not remotely what I said, but while you're at it, it depends on circumstance.

 I didn't say that's what you said, I was asking if that's your conclusion

 Why would that be my conclusion?

 Idk, br is my husband, and you seem to find fault on a husband (br) trying to defend his wife (me) so it kinda seemed that way

 Does him being your husband make it any different than anyone else defending you?

 I don't know, that's a good question. Can't really say, what do you think?

Not really.  I think depending on the particular relationship, closeness can make a defender's credibility more or less suspect.  Typically more, I suppose, given the myriad of potential biases and faulty motivations.  But you really seemed to emphasize that he was your husband, as if this was very relevant to his defense and my opinion of it.  Why?

 So people should only defend people they don't love?

 If you keep strawmanning, I'm going to start thinking it's intentional. lol

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It's also Delora's responsibility to deal with her own feelings, though.

 Because a husband should not defend his wife or attempt to comfort her?

 Not remotely what I said, but while you're at it, it depends on circumstance.

 I didn't say that's what you said, I was asking if that's your conclusion

 Why would that be my conclusion?

 Idk, br is my husband, and you seem to find fault on a husband (br) trying to defend his wife (me) so it kinda seemed that way

 Does him being your husband make it any different than anyone else defending you?

 I don't know, that's a good question. Can't really say, what do you think?

Not really.  I think depending on the particular relationship, closeness can make a defender's credibility more or less suspect.  Typically more, I suppose, given the myriad of potential biases and faulty motivations.  But you really seemed to emphasize that he was your husband, as if this was very relevant to his defense and my opinion of it.  Why?

 So people should only defend people they don't love?

 If you keep strawmanning, I'm going to start thinking it's intentional. lol

 Strawman? Whatever do you mean? Perhaps im just calling you out ;)

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  •  So you made yourself feel bad after trying to pimp out your husband and are pining it on cs as a scapegoat?

    Delora said:
    No I don't think she did it on purpose I think she was trying to help

     Wow lena, your perception on things fascinates me, way to play double speak

     Me saying she sees an sc hierarchy and is trying to be on top of it by fucking most of the guys here to feel desirable doesn't negate the fact that you tried to pimp out your husband for a kid and then felt bad about it and had a whole irl issue where he had to make a thread about how you're crying over something you were trying to volunteer him for without his knowledge or consent.

     16:35:41

    Lena said:
    Her putting you down and saying essentially that you deserved to be cheated on and (did i read this wrong? She called you ugly and you agreed?) Then putting down your looks?

     A current summary of what lena is now saying: 

    Lena said:
    Wowwwwww delora, your just upset because of YOURSELF, what did cs say to upset you? I'm playing ditz today

     My response: no it's not cs,s fault

  • You: so your saying-

 You just said it wasn't her fault so I've decided not to blame her....did- 

Did you want me to blame her anyways?

 Ok, so why didn't you say that in the first place? So, you feel you blaming her in the first place was wrong on your part? Also- that's odd, since from the start before you even said any of this I was already saying it wasn't her fault, how many times did me saying the same statement finally convince you? So this means I was right, cs was innocent and ou were wrong? Where is the apology thread?

Your husband and I seem to be in agreement that CS is doing this to be malicious. 

 Delora I'm blaming you, you're the reason your husband made this thread- you've already said you think she was only trying to help, you're pulling info from a completely different thread to derail what we're talking about here in this thread where I'm saying she has ulterior motives.

You said it's not her fault, fine. So I'm saying that you felt insecure about a surrogacy arrangement that you made where you were essentially trying to pimp out your husband without his consent and you felt so bad about it your husband had to make a thread blaming her- you've at the very least not communicated with him enough to make him understand you don't think it's her fault. 

You putting your insecure issues and crying about them to your husband- but you're insecure about CS, essentially pinning them on to her-

You're at fault here, and I'm trying to make that clear to you. You were upset over a problem that you created.

Also why would I make an apology thread?

 I explained why you should make that thread. Anyway, but why specifically are out blaming me?

 Because this thread wouldn't have been made if you had some ability to take responsibility for your actions and emotions

 Well I did take responsibility, multiple times I said "I am just self conscious it's not cs,s fault," yet the thread was still made, so your statement is false as I did take responsibility yet the thread was made anyway. I understand you now know, that cs is innocent and in the right, and did nothing wrong, and that you know she did nothing to harm me in any way, as you are very intelligent loving and good with people, but I myself have had the same conclusion as you the entire time, and only recently it seems you realized I'm right.  Friends? :) 

So now it's your husband's fault for not understanding that you felt self conscious about a problem you created and that it's not CS fault that you wanted to pimp him out? 

Why lena dear, I even apologized publically in chat about the entire thing- it just seems your a little less than up to date on the current occurrence of things, a bit to much so in the lack thereof, to be providing input, wouldn't you say?

 If you don't want me to comment on a public thread your husband made you should probably ask him to post "lena pls don't comment" in the thread title next time. 

And i don't follow everything you do in chat, nor does your apology change my mind about CS having ulterior motives.

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Cs said she was a bad wife?

More likely that's how Delora took it. 

Whorechata said:
...but you were pushing that..?

'I don't recall', amirite? 

Whorechata said:
I mean even without the CS bit, you've been making sexual suggestions about your husband and at least one other member here besides CS.

/points at self

Whorechata said:
You're at fault here, and I'm trying to make that clear to you. You were upset over a problem that you created.

/thread


It's also Delora's responsibility to deal with her own feelings, though.

 Because a husband should not defend his wife or attempt to comfort her?

You shouldn't expect someone to fix all of your problems for you, that's what parasites do. 

Lady_marmalade said:
Both her and I were, it's complicated, feelings are complex and confusing and don't always make sense.

So because of this you shouldn't have to face your own contributions towards this behind-the-back collaboration? 

Your whole aim was to figure out how to get BR to fuck her without feeling guilt, all the while you waffling about how much pain you want to put yourself through. 

Lade_marmalade said:
I'm going to be completely honest with you, a good lot of that is just trolling, and you can ask br about this, we did an entire troll together based on it and it was also good fun.

...you've already gotten to the point of speaking for BR, again? This is how he bottles and eventually explodes, when he can't even speak for his own person. 

Lady_marmalade said:
I even reiterated over and over that I didn't think he wanted to and that I didn't want to pressure him

Your "relating" was to try to find ways to manipulate him into wanting to do it, rather than respect his wishes against it. 

You wanted to gaslight him. 

Lady_marmalade said:
Idk, br is my husband, and you seem to find fault on a husband (br) trying to defend his wife (me) so it kinda seemed that way

It shouldn't be his responsibility to defend you, but rather his privilege. 

You act entitled to him bailing you out of your own jams, which frankly he shouldn't be saddled with, you should. It'd be one thing if he was defending you against baseless shit, it's another when he begins lashing out at people here so that he doesn't have to blame you, so that you won't drink bleach or some shit. 

Lady_marmalade said:
only recently it seems you realized I'm right.

You keep trying to make it about you winning some debate here, it's not about "winning". 

Lady_marmalade said:
So people should only defend people they don't love?

Not remotely what she was saying. 

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last edit on 1/7/2021 11:23:07 PM
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0 votes RE: CS is a degenerate agit...

I understand where delora is coming from, the first time I had a guy inside my girlfriend it felt like a punch in the gut and I was wondering 'will she like him more than me?' or 'will she think i dont love her and run off with him'? however those feelings were overriden with my excitement over how hot and humiliating it was, I got hard and got over my insecurities, so if you are serious about this cuckold lifestyle, you can just push through.

Delora doesn't have the same mental fortitude as you though, nor is she nearly as accepting of her own depravity. 

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Lady_marmalade said:
I am not the best at hiding my sadness from my husband

Then stop creating scenarios for you to beat yourself up with so that your husband will notice you. 

I swear you create self-harmful situations so that he'll run to your defense. After hearing your ramble as to why you like Luna, I think you just want the attention. 

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last edit on 1/7/2021 11:20:50 PM
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Lady_marmalade said:
I am not the best at hiding my sadness from my husband

Then stop creating scenarios for you to beat yourself up with so that your husband will notice you. 

I swear you create self-harmful situations so that he'll run to your defense. After hearing your ramble as to why you like Luna, I think you just want the attention. 

 I never said I liked luna?????? I don't remember? Can you quote it? Also, I kept telling br I was ok, and to not get involved and he wouldn't listen. You seem to find it impossible that br could, perhaps, be man enough to simply be acting on his own?  I tried to explain to br it's not her fault, and even told him my problem was entirely hormonal. I even begged him NOT to create this post.nthats not to say I am criticizimg him for making it, it is just that I'm telling you, I had no purposeful part in this post, or will for it to even be made, and this is just br

last edit on 1/7/2021 11:28:56 PM
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0 votes RE: CS is a degenerate agit...
Lady_marmalade said:
I am not the best at hiding my sadness from my husband

Then stop creating scenarios for you to beat yourself up with so that your husband will notice you. 

I swear you create self-harmful situations so that he'll run to your defense. After hearing your ramble as to why you like Luna, I think you just want the attention. 

 In fact tc, it wasn't me who convinced br I was a victim, it was YOU and your post you made in the first place basically saying I was being victimized by cs that set him off, until then he did believe me that my crying was hormonal like I kept telling him

last edit on 1/7/2021 11:33:21 PM
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0 votes RE: CS is a degenerate agit...
Lady_marmalade said:
I am not the best at hiding my sadness from my husband

Then stop creating scenarios for you to beat yourself up with so that your husband will notice you. 

I swear you create self-harmful situations so that he'll run to your defense. After hearing your ramble as to why you like Luna, I think you just want the attention. 

 I never said I liked luna?????? I don't remember? Can you quote it? Also, I kept telling br I was ok, and to not get involved and he wouldn't listen. You seem to find it impossible that br could, perhaps, be man enough to simply be acting on his own?

Being man enough means going against your wishes? 

  I tried to explain to br it's not her fault, and even told him my problem was entirely hormonal. I even begged him NOT to create this post.nthats not to say I am criticizimg him for making it, it is just that I'm telling you, I had no purposeful part in this post, or will for it to even be made, and this is just br

 Okay, so we are blaming BR, got it

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