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TPG said: 

the hallmark of depression is an inability for passive enjoyment

i genuinely believe that no further elucidation on the condition is necessary, this aphorism should suffice

That's a big part of it, but what about the deeper resonances of depression?  There are levels of pain that go beyond simple lack of pleasure, that become oppressive.  That sort of..... 'hurts just to wake up in the morning' feeling.  Not to mention the abject hopelessness.  The self-loathing.  I think you're over simplifying.

There's multiple sorts of depression, and the sort he's discussing sounds like the empty, hollow, lethargic variant, which is what I typically associate with Depression as well. 

By contrast, I'd say self-loathing and other dramatic feelings are closer to extreme sadness, the opposite of Depression through the volume being cranked in the opposite direction with more than enough room to self-indulge. 

Ones sadness can be their path to fulfilment and validation, while one's depression is just emptiness. 

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TPG said: 

a hallmark of shallow understanding is when an ideological system is judged as a mere sum of truth and errors

So by contrast, the hallmark of thorough understanding comes from the truth and errors of non-ideological systems? 

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TPG said: 

a hallmark of shallow understanding is when an ideological system is judged as a mere sum of truth and errors

So by contrast, the hallmark of thorough understanding comes from the truth and errors of non-ideological systems? 

 you missed the point

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TPG said: 
TPG said: 

a hallmark of shallow understanding is when an ideological system is judged as a mere sum of truth and errors

So by contrast, the hallmark of thorough understanding comes from the truth and errors of non-ideological systems? 

 you missed the point

What is the way towards a thorough understanding then? 

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TPG said: 
TPG said: 

a hallmark of shallow understanding is when an ideological system is judged as a mere sum of truth and errors

So by contrast, the hallmark of thorough understanding comes from the truth and errors of non-ideological systems? 

 you missed the point

What is the way towards a thorough understanding then? 

 i wouldn't know

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That sort of makes all ways* of coming to a conclusion seem hollow. 

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That sort of makes all way of coming to a conclusion seem hollow. 

 if you say so

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What things in your life have had you feel like your understanding of something wasn't shallow? 

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What things in your life have had you feel like your understanding of something wasn't shallow? 

 nothing of that sort has happened yet

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