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QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

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QuietBeef said: 

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TPG said: 

the hallmark of depression is an inability for passive enjoyment

i genuinely believe that no further elucidation on the condition is necessary, this aphorism should suffice

That's a big part of it, but what about the deeper resonances of depression?  There are levels of pain that go beyond simple lack of pleasure, that become oppressive.  That sort of..... 'hurts just to wake up in the morning' feeling.  Not to mention the abject hopelessness.  The self-loathing.  I think you're over simplifying.

 melancholy should not be confused with depression

Seems like a very common symptom.  Why separate them?

 a mere symptom cannot be regarded as the essence of something

 All a disorder is, is a collection of symptoms.  "Essence" sounds like you're trying to give it a soul. lol

 the whole is greater than the sum of its parts

 I don't think so, in this case.  I think it's just easier to believe that something so consuming must be more than a handful of cheap sounding bullet points.

Also, in what way is "inability for passive enjoyment" not just another symptom?

 it is more pervasive and enduring than merely melancholy

So it's simply a question of quantity to you?  That again, seems oversimplified.  By that logic, my lethargy would be a more a defining characteristic of my depression than my suicidal ideation, just because it happens more often.

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

the hallmark of depression is an inability for passive enjoyment

i genuinely believe that no further elucidation on the condition is necessary, this aphorism should suffice

That's a big part of it, but what about the deeper resonances of depression?  There are levels of pain that go beyond simple lack of pleasure, that become oppressive.  That sort of..... 'hurts just to wake up in the morning' feeling.  Not to mention the abject hopelessness.  The self-loathing.  I think you're over simplifying.

 melancholy should not be confused with depression

Seems like a very common symptom.  Why separate them?

 a mere symptom cannot be regarded as the essence of something

 All a disorder is, is a collection of symptoms.  "Essence" sounds like you're trying to give it a soul. lol

 the whole is greater than the sum of its parts

 I don't think so, in this case.  I think it's just easier to believe that something so consuming must be more than a handful of cheap sounding bullet points.

Also, in what way is "inability for passive enjoyment" not just another symptom?

 it is more pervasive and enduring than merely melancholy

So it's simply a question of quantity to you?  That again, seems oversimplified.  By that logic, my lethargy would be a more a defining characteristic of my depression than my suicidal ideation, just because it happens more often.

 it really isn't

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

the hallmark of depression is an inability for passive enjoyment

i genuinely believe that no further elucidation on the condition is necessary, this aphorism should suffice

That's a big part of it, but what about the deeper resonances of depression?  There are levels of pain that go beyond simple lack of pleasure, that become oppressive.  That sort of..... 'hurts just to wake up in the morning' feeling.  Not to mention the abject hopelessness.  The self-loathing.  I think you're over simplifying.

 melancholy should not be confused with depression

Seems like a very common symptom.  Why separate them?

 a mere symptom cannot be regarded as the essence of something

 All a disorder is, is a collection of symptoms.  "Essence" sounds like you're trying to give it a soul. lol

 the whole is greater than the sum of its parts

 I don't think so, in this case.  I think it's just easier to believe that something so consuming must be more than a handful of cheap sounding bullet points.

Also, in what way is "inability for passive enjoyment" not just another symptom?

 it is more pervasive and enduring than merely melancholy

So it's simply a question of quantity to you?  That again, seems oversimplified.  By that logic, my lethargy would be a more a defining characteristic of my depression than my suicidal ideation, just because it happens more often.

 it really isn't

 Then what?

people are often religious because they are religious
people are often atheists because they are atheists

however it is implicitly assumed that people have come upon their position with genuine rationales

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

the hallmark of depression is an inability for passive enjoyment

i genuinely believe that no further elucidation on the condition is necessary, this aphorism should suffice

That's a big part of it, but what about the deeper resonances of depression?  There are levels of pain that go beyond simple lack of pleasure, that become oppressive.  That sort of..... 'hurts just to wake up in the morning' feeling.  Not to mention the abject hopelessness.  The self-loathing.  I think you're over simplifying.

 melancholy should not be confused with depression

Seems like a very common symptom.  Why separate them?

 a mere symptom cannot be regarded as the essence of something

 All a disorder is, is a collection of symptoms.  "Essence" sounds like you're trying to give it a soul. lol

 the whole is greater than the sum of its parts

 I don't think so, in this case.  I think it's just easier to believe that something so consuming must be more than a handful of cheap sounding bullet points.

Also, in what way is "inability for passive enjoyment" not just another symptom?

 it is more pervasive and enduring than merely melancholy

So it's simply a question of quantity to you?  That again, seems oversimplified.  By that logic, my lethargy would be a more a defining characteristic of my depression than my suicidal ideation, just because it happens more often.

 it really isn't

 Then what?

 it'd be pointless arguing with you

TPG said: 

people are often religious because they are religious
people are often atheists because they are atheists

however it is implicitly assumed that people have come upon their position with genuine rationales

I think that assumption is becoming less common.  Having the expanse of communication that's available to us now is kind of showcasing people's patterns in a way that's harder to miss.

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

the hallmark of depression is an inability for passive enjoyment

i genuinely believe that no further elucidation on the condition is necessary, this aphorism should suffice

That's a big part of it, but what about the deeper resonances of depression?  There are levels of pain that go beyond simple lack of pleasure, that become oppressive.  That sort of..... 'hurts just to wake up in the morning' feeling.  Not to mention the abject hopelessness.  The self-loathing.  I think you're over simplifying.

 melancholy should not be confused with depression

Seems like a very common symptom.  Why separate them?

 a mere symptom cannot be regarded as the essence of something

 All a disorder is, is a collection of symptoms.  "Essence" sounds like you're trying to give it a soul. lol

 the whole is greater than the sum of its parts

 I don't think so, in this case.  I think it's just easier to believe that something so consuming must be more than a handful of cheap sounding bullet points.

Also, in what way is "inability for passive enjoyment" not just another symptom?

 it is more pervasive and enduring than merely melancholy

So it's simply a question of quantity to you?  That again, seems oversimplified.  By that logic, my lethargy would be a more a defining characteristic of my depression than my suicidal ideation, just because it happens more often.

 it really isn't

 Then what?

 it'd be pointless arguing with you

 Why?

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

the hallmark of depression is an inability for passive enjoyment

i genuinely believe that no further elucidation on the condition is necessary, this aphorism should suffice

That's a big part of it, but what about the deeper resonances of depression?  There are levels of pain that go beyond simple lack of pleasure, that become oppressive.  That sort of..... 'hurts just to wake up in the morning' feeling.  Not to mention the abject hopelessness.  The self-loathing.  I think you're over simplifying.

 melancholy should not be confused with depression

Seems like a very common symptom.  Why separate them?

 a mere symptom cannot be regarded as the essence of something

 All a disorder is, is a collection of symptoms.  "Essence" sounds like you're trying to give it a soul. lol

 the whole is greater than the sum of its parts

 I don't think so, in this case.  I think it's just easier to believe that something so consuming must be more than a handful of cheap sounding bullet points.

Also, in what way is "inability for passive enjoyment" not just another symptom?

 it is more pervasive and enduring than merely melancholy

So it's simply a question of quantity to you?  That again, seems oversimplified.  By that logic, my lethargy would be a more a defining characteristic of my depression than my suicidal ideation, just because it happens more often.

 it really isn't

 Then what?

 it'd be pointless arguing with you

 Why?

 i am tired right now

a hallmark of shallow understanding is when an ideological system is judged as a mere sum of truth and errors

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

QuietBeef said: 

TPG said: 

the hallmark of depression is an inability for passive enjoyment

i genuinely believe that no further elucidation on the condition is necessary, this aphorism should suffice

That's a big part of it, but what about the deeper resonances of depression?  There are levels of pain that go beyond simple lack of pleasure, that become oppressive.  That sort of..... 'hurts just to wake up in the morning' feeling.  Not to mention the abject hopelessness.  The self-loathing.  I think you're over simplifying.

 melancholy should not be confused with depression

Seems like a very common symptom.  Why separate them?

 a mere symptom cannot be regarded as the essence of something

 All a disorder is, is a collection of symptoms.  "Essence" sounds like you're trying to give it a soul. lol

 the whole is greater than the sum of its parts

 I don't think so, in this case.  I think it's just easier to believe that something so consuming must be more than a handful of cheap sounding bullet points.

Also, in what way is "inability for passive enjoyment" not just another symptom?

 it is more pervasive and enduring than merely melancholy

So it's simply a question of quantity to you?  That again, seems oversimplified.  By that logic, my lethargy would be a more a defining characteristic of my depression than my suicidal ideation, just because it happens more often.

 it really isn't

 Then what?

 it'd be pointless arguing with you

 Why?

 i am tired right now

 lol Okay.  Well if you feel like it later, I'll still be up for the discussion.