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I'm not gonna post the whole thing bc I dont want anyone to reverse it to find my Bday/ location but I'm skeptical of astrology so what do you guys think. Does this sound like me?

AliceInWonderland said: 

I've been becoming increasingly interested in Astrology as of late, in general my thoughts pertaining to causality have been running wild. 

I've studied it historically as the science that it once was and never gave thought to the new age ideals that came with the turn of the 20th century. 

It is an interesting hypothesis, I think it's just poorly posed. If posed less radically and more rigorously there could actually be stock in it which would be exciting given the cause of the effect would be interesting to explore. 

 

 I would love to be able to do proper tests someday.  I need to learn a lot more about neuroscience first, but I have some basic theories in mind, like testing estrogen and potentially oxytocin levels in Cancers vs other signs, but I'd need much better resources than I have in order to confirm those kinds of things.  Inq is actually arranging a sort of test for me, a database of faces with birthdays, to see how much I can beat the odds in guessing based purely on physical features.  Looking forward to that, whenever it happens.

What little research has been done, mostly incidentally, has been interesting.  Like a study done by a New York hospital on conditions corresponding to birth month.  Some of the findings were things I'd actually read about in old astrology books, like Virgos having digestion problems and Aquarians being more prone to schizophrenia.  That was fun.  But of course, with the blow astrology took from Christianity over the last thousand years, it was all chalked up to "magic" and questioned no further by the vast majority of the astrological community.

Honey said: 

I'm not gonna post the whole thing bc I dont want anyone to reverse it to find my Bday/ location but I'm skeptical of astrology so what do you guys think. Does this sound like me?

 No one will be able to find your location anyways.  But planets don't mean shit, so what you posted is plenty enough, astrologically.
I'd been wondering whether your moon was Taurus or Cancer.  I'm glad it's the former. lol

I actually wrote up a fairly in-depth spiel on Sagittarian ascendants for another SCer not long ago, I can send it to you, if you want.

H1mml3r said: 

user33313 said: 

What and now you edited it out? Who the fuck gon give a shit about ur bday wtf paranoia much

I was referring to where I live. In the original chart it gives details of birthplace.

I don't want to give my birthday anyway. I'm not scared of them finding me through birthday, but birthplace is pretty crucial

Only if you never left does it mean anything, and otherwise picking somewhere relatively close by (usually within the same time zone) gets close enough. 

Honey said: 

I'm not gonna post the whole thing bc I dont want anyone to reverse it to find my Bday/ location but I'm skeptical of astrology so what do you guys think. Does this sound like me?

 

 

 Astrology is bullshit, but with my expert reading skills I can definitely assess that this indeed is you.

AliceInWonderland said: 

I've been becoming increasingly interested in Astrology as of late, in general my thoughts pertaining to causality have been running wild. 

I've studied it historically as the science that it once was and never gave thought to the new age ideals that came with the turn of the 20th century. 

It is an interesting hypothesis, I think it's just poorly posed. If posed less radically and more rigorously there could actually be stock in it which would be exciting given the cause of the effect would be interesting to explore. 

As I've been saying, we already have data on how seasons affect births, establishing a base 4 simplification of it. Expanding upon that into base 12 isn't really so crazy to figure once base 4's become accepted. There's otherwise mild signs of it in their appearance for their sun signs and somewhat their ascendant, and much of what people say or write reflects strangely archetypal themes of their signage (also I swear their moon's in how they hold their eyes). 

Figure that the fetus' conception for their sun sign is less a byproduct of when the mother got pregnant and more of a byproduct of those nine months carrying the child. Seasonal affect has been more than thoroughly expressed through it's disorderly variant (S.A.D.), and otherwise yields patterns in people's spending habits and behavioral tendencies. Typically when entering Spring or Fall for example, the sharp shift in changes can show wacky behaviors from people for a bit around it's solstice time by contrast to the more sedentary behaviors that can crop up from Summer and Winter. As such, people's behaviors being affected by the seasons is liable to affect fetal growth over the family's behaviors and physical responses towards their environments second-handedly on top of  whatever else is directly affecting it, like temperature for example. 

When compared to how crops yield different growth patterns based on time of year in comparison to animals seasonal breeding patterns, it really doesn't seem so crazy to figure that people's behaviors are liable to show tendencies and patterns based on when they were born. When you start rambling about how stars are affecting people, "the mysterious 13th sign", and cosmic energies however... you'll then have gone full blown Spatial. 

Things like this have me wonder if carrying a child while in space would ascend past the limitations of Astrological tendencies and show some sort of proto-human. 

QuietBeef said: 

 

I actually wrote up a fairly in-depth spiel on Sagittarian ascendants for another SCer not long ago, I can send it to you, if you want.

 Yess

I get to be extra weird to figure having two cusps on opposite sides (day of cusp Aquarius/Capricorn, moon cusping Cancer/Leo): 

I mean, the whole star thing is an understandable misattribution in the early context of astrology, but not anymore.  The sky was a clock, so if they saw patterns in human behavior that had consistent timing, they'd blame the stars.  Having S.A.D., it's like if I noticed my tendency to get depressed around 18:00 every day, and not understanding the effect of light on the brain, assumed that the clock itself striking 18:00 was actually the source of my depression.  Same logic.  They gave the credit to the tool of measurement.

QuietBeef said: 

I mean, the whole star thing is an understandable misattribution in the early context of astrology, but not anymore.  The sky was a clock, so if they saw patterns in human behavior that had consistent timing, they'd blame the stars.  Having S.A.D., it's like if I noticed my tendency to get depressed around 18:00 every day, and not understanding the effect of light on the brain, assumed that the clock itself striking 18:00 was actually the source of my depression.  Same logic.  They gave the credit to the tool of measurement.

It was also historically shrouded in pseudo-mysticism so that it'd look less commonplace, ensuring their craft could remain desired instead of bleeding into the mainstream. It's not really too different from the idea of a witch, medicine man, or magician not sharing their secrets. An advisor with knowledge of astrology would be quite useful, but if said leader already knew how to do it or it was otherwise an accepted canon that anyone could utilize then their advisor's role has become that much more redundant. 

With the use of the internet however, it's more accessible and independently verifiable than ever before. Websites like Astrocharts for example can show facial data and grant names that can then be used to seek interviews and their individual histories in hopes of finding patterns (my hobby).

As the smokescreen of bullshit's slowly wiped away, and as machines become better at algorithmically noting patterns themselves, the meaning of Astrology will change from mysticism into something closer to crop-clock calculations.