In all likely they probably thought they did make it known perfectly well enough. Others in the the building heard the knocks and their verbal ques and even came out of their doors to see what was going on - at such a time they were told to go back inside. These individuals were called as witnesses for the case.
Everything I'm reading says one witness, yet you keep claiming there were multiple. Where are you getting this?
Regardless, they knocked and verbally stated their presence....that is all they are required to do and all they must do under protocol.
Personally, if we're giving them military-grade weapons and essentially legal free reign to kill citizens on nothing but their word, I expect a little better than "well they technically met the minimum requirement of protocol". You're ignoring the elephant in the room, that these people are massively unqualified for the power they've been given, and they're proving it over and over. If the police can't even gather evidence for a basic drug case without killing innocent and uninvolved people, there is indisputably a problem in the system. Whether you want to blame that on the cops or the law makers is another matter, but pretending everything is fine, acting like these kinds of incidents are necessary side effects of contending with petty crime, is callously short sighted.
That's a social and political question, and has nothing to do with policing.
Police are only meant to enforce the law.
Why American born blacks commit more crime then their counter parts is a whole other discussion.
Policing is a social and political issue. You can't separate the two for convenience.
I mean 1 of 10 is pretty good.
She must be used to defending cases with zero out of ten witnesses. lol
Imagine writing long ass replies when no one actually gives a fuck what u say or think
I care what Alice thinks. : )
The false narrative is that we've not had severe racial issues for about 10 years, but people are pushing it to the media because it's politically expedient. BLM funds go directly to the Democratic Party. Look up the founders of BLM, the people pushing this radical race movement. Ties with Weather Underground and everything, what the fuck.
You mean there's a narrative making things out to be worse now than before when that's not true?
Why can't BLM money go to the Democratic Party? Seems that'd be their best shot at changing things. As long as they're open about who they give to and why it seems fine to me.
Yes, that is what I mean. We've done a lot of equalizing these last 20 years, liberalism pretty much won out. Our First Lady last term was supporting drag queens reading books to kids. In other words, they were conditioning children to support people being absolutely any way they want to be, by exposing them to sexuality early on.
The whole idea that we should keep the values that made America a place worth being in to begin with is being undermined in the names of "acceptance" and "tolerance." Our history courses were also geared up with the same agenda, hyper-focusing on slavery, the Holocaust, conflicts with Native Americans. It's programming through guilt, and it worked. Even in the FBI, people were made to attend "critical race theory" classes.
To give a short answer to why BLM money should not be going to the Democratic Party—It's scummy. People think they are donating money to help improve neighborhoods. They're really just helping out campaigns. This money could be allocated into libraries, or schools, or assistance programs. But nope, it's just a weapon for political funding. Look into the people behind BLM it's no surprise what's going on.
https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/ said:Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors said in a newly surfaced video from 2015 that she and her fellow organizers are “trained Marxists” – making clear their movement’s ideological foundation, according to a report.
Cullors, 36, was the protégé of Eric Mann, former agitator of the Weather Underground domestic terror organization, and spent years absorbing the Marxist-Leninist ideology that shaped her worldview, Breitbart News reported.
“The first thing, I think, is that we actually do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia in particular are trained organizers,” she said, referring to BLM co-founder Alicia Garza.
“We are trained Marxists. We are super-versed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think that what we really tried to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many black folk,” Cullors added in the interview with Jared Ball of The Real News Network.
And while BLM doesn't really "hide" per se where their money goes, they're not really open about it either. They're abusing peoples' sympathy for political power.
That the Breonna Taylor case began with a no knock warrant, the police that showed did indeed knock and verbally stated their presence.
That the shooting was not justified, Breonnas bf opened fired at the officers and one of them was hit in the leg at such a point that officer then fired six shots.
It's an unfortunate event but in this case the officers were justified in their response given they were shot at and hit, evidence and witness testimony collaborate this.
From what I've read whether police announced themselves properly or not seems to be in dispute. The boyfriend says he didn't hear it and I'm inclined to believe him. I often don't hear people knocking on my door. Personally though, even if they did shout "police!" first, kicking down someone's door in the middle of the night like that seems very reckless to me. It's possible they were legally justified in returning fire (since the boyfriend shot first, which he shouldn't have done) but I'd expect them to be much better prepared before they decide to cause a situation like this in the first place. It all just seems incredibly sloppy and unprofessional.
Naturally the narrative is going to exaggerate the race angle and I agree that's unfortunate. So is violent rioting and mob mentality. This way of policing shouldn't be a thing though and I'm sure it happens to black people more often than white. Or don't you think there's that much to take away from this other than that it was an unfortunate and tragic event?
Police in America don't knock softly on your door.
One thing I think we could do differently, that you guys do well in Sweden: We could emphasize education for police more. But I'm not even sure the police were out of line here. And when you're responding to someone using a gun against you, the natural response is to use a gun back. What were the police supposed to do, run?
It's shit like this that has me more inclined to watch Vice, and even more so All Gas No Brakes:
Vice has gone downhill in my opinion, but All Gas No Breaks is pretty good.
Turncoat said:It's far, far, from every time. There's far more names being said than paid attention to when it comes to police brutality stories.
Did you even hear the name Modesto Reyes for example? They have to push this hard for any attention to go towards it. It's not like every situation's another Rayshard Brooks or something, there's more being forgotten than given their due diligence.
It happens to all races, man. Blacks get targeted more because high-crime areas are patrolled more. I don't doubt that occasionally a cop is racist. I just don't see what is happening right now to be a proper response.
Turncoat said:This has nothing to do with anything.
Police are supposed to be enforcing the law, and many of them through Occupational Immunity are getting away with senseless violence on innocent people, such as with the Breonna Taylor case. We already have plenty of the narrative mirrored from the right about "defending themselves once police come barging into their homes with firearms" (unannounced over a mistaken address even), so why is it different when it's a black person? We also have many cases where racist organizations are trying to get their own people into law enforcement positions to get away with blatant atrocities through said immunity.
Cops should be held accountable, and instead we see the media defending them the minute they're cornered. We're at this point stuck with independent news outlets if we want to avoid the steering, the likes seen on both Fox and CNN alike.
The Breonna Taylor is a logical conclusion of what happens when police follow protocol. Alice broke that down pretty well. The fucked up part is that there's such a huge psy-op going on that police can follow regulation to a T and still catch shit. You think all that happened because the dude was black?
Turncoat said:It's the only way they're going to be heard.
This is not a Martin Luther King era anymore, we need Malcolm X.
You're making me sad, man. MLK got more shit done because he was able to make the other side feel empathy. The shit going on now makes everyone become more divided.
Turncoat said:I mean, considering the demographics being appealed to, why would the right defend black lives?
Even ignoring the racism within the party, the rhetoric tends to keep it more about Classism than Racism in favor of the upper class while directly opposed to progressive views that would stand to reach into their pockets.
Is the Right Wing not defending black lives? It's Democrat cities having the riots, and it's Democrats not doing shit about it. Their crime rates have gone through the roof.
Turncoat said:Couldn't they have used cover (hiding behind the wall by the door) in combination with cop sensitivity training instead of turning it into a gunfight? Couldn't they have attempted to identify the shooter instead of just unloading on everyone inside?
Because the dude was using a gun. Guns are lethal.