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Good debate. It's like... Imagine two people are both qualified for a job. Both will die if they don't get it but there's only one position. In each case neither has any family. One could kill the other and the consequence is that one person's life will be improved while the other will be dead. Otherwise their life will be ruined.
 

That's a weak false equivalency -- a fetus's survival is dependent on another. The person competing for the job is not dependent on the other. 

Following your logic though, you can make the exact same argument about a fetus coming to term killing it's mother. 

Conjoined twins, disabled children, newborns and temporary coma patients are dependent. The closest is obviously conjoined twins since they are born connected. 

By law if the mother's health is at permanent risk or life is at risk it then becomes self defense. I'm actually ok with self defense. The situation I made up though was indirectly ruining them not directly. I mean I don't think anyone would advocate killing a smoker who just shortened your life by second hand smoking indirectly?

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This described why I'm pro life.

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Nuke the tards

Sc is pretty boring.
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The Great Dictator is a great film, the og clip is worth watching. 

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But anyhow...people who believe life starts at conception apply a non-biological understanding to when life begins. When you look at how pregnancy occurs, you can’t have a live pregnancy if you don’t have a live sperm meeting a live egg. So if the sperm is alive and the egg is alive then that means life begins before conception. Every time a woman has a period or a man ejaculates, life dies.

Essentially life is a process, not an event.

Yes you're right the only way to convince me to be pro choice is to convince me to become a murderer. It's unthinkable :/

Okay, this is an interesting challenge and I'll accept the uphill battle that comes with it. 

So lets break this down: What do you have against MURDER

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Spatial Mind said:
You may want to marry a Christian man, but that doesn't mean you know who'll you're going to fall for next. and trust me, you will fall for someone again in the midst of not thinking it can ever happen.

Based on my debates with her in the past, a Christian Man is still "a man" to her. She wouldn't want something that pales in comparison to Jesus' love, now that she's over her thirst for Satan anyway. 

She'd have to find someone flawless, and even if she found such a person she'd have to sort through her Jesus bias to even see it, seeing as finding such a person would contradict her ideology. 

I can only assume this "MEN MAKE MISTAKES" generalization (alongside her supposed sadism guilt that developed later) is a byproduct of some sort of trauma or justification. 

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Feathers said:

Conjoined twins, disabled children, newborns and temporary coma patients are dependent. The closest is obviously conjoined twins since they are born connected. 

By law if the mother's health is at permanent risk or life is at risk it then becomes self defense. I'm actually ok with self defense. The situation I made up though was indirectly ruining them not directly. I mean I don't think anyone would advocate killing a smoker who just shortened your life by second hand smoking indirectly?

But overpopulation is a problem. If we all have too many babies then we all die. I would even go one step further and advocate for a "3 week rule." If after three weeks you can't stand that crying sack of shit, you can donate it to some modern day Auschwitz equivalent where it's trained for combat against future alien invasion. At least it can contribute to something useful, not like the rest of humanity that is too busy lowering the overall IQ of humanity by allowing stupid people to breed in masses.

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Spatial Mind said:
You may want to marry a Christian man, but that doesn't mean you know who'll you're going to fall for next. and trust me, you will fall for someone again in the midst of not thinking it can ever happen.

Based on my debates with her in the past, a Christian Man is still "a man" to her. She wouldn't want something that pales in comparison to Jesus' love, now that she's over her thirst for Satan anyway. 

She'd have to find someone flawless, and even if she found such a person she'd have to sort through her Jesus bias to even see it, seeing as finding such a person would contradict her ideology. 

I can only assume this "MEN MAKE MISTAKES" generalization (alongside her supposed sadism guilt that developed later) is a byproduct of some sort of trauma or justification. 

Yes a man would have to convince me to date him and show me the reason he's worthy of me. By this point being single sounds pretty good. I won't have responsibility, I won't have expectations, no one will try to emotionally manipulate me and so on. God makes many promises to single people...

Isaiah 56:4-8 For this is what the Lord says: I will bless those eunuchs who keep my Sabbath days holy and who choose to do what pleases me and commit their lives to me. I will give them—within the walls of my house— a memorial and a name far greater than sons and daughters could give. For the name I give them is an everlasting one. It will never disappear!

People try to make me feel bad when I don't do what they want and that's annoying. I don't do dishes and mom is like "you don't even love me". I do do dishes and she's like "you love me 2%". Ugh like stop trying to play on my heart strings. Dishes shouldn't be so important that you need to emotionally manipulate someone to get them done. Men do the same thing even some men threatened to kill themselves if I didn't do something. I was like "I can't be responsible for your emotions and you can't manipulate my emotions like that".

I'm pretty chill and I'll be fine as long as the person is very independent and doesn't act manipulative. My motto is like "leave me alone unless you wanna cuddle or go somewhere". But you had the right idea when you said the best relationships are friendships first.

Reminds me of those lists of "what do you look for in a man".

- Christian - Humble. - Independent - Chill - Not manipulative - Cuddly. - Adventurous - Smart - Not a sub - Not a nagger - Not inconsiderate (like those people who think they're complimenting you but they're not just lying they're also too obviously trying to please you and trying too hard) - Not a try too hard to impress - Not triggering my pet peeves - Someone who likes to argue respectfully and can separate person from argument - Someone honest - Someone hopefully protective - Someone with good morals - Someone who cares to get to know me as a person... 

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It always comes to where conception is for me. I do not believe in abortion once there are brain functions, heartbeat and moving limbs. Before, sure.

I am with you, even unto the end of the age
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Pro life:

Fuck life its for noobs

Cheery bye!
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