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I’ll be pro choice if you can convince me why my comfort is worth more than another’s life. Convince me I’m so special that my comfort is worth more than the lives of babies. 

 Because another's life is worthless to you, while your comfort is not.

 

Also, them embryos ain't alive yet. I'm committing genocide whenever I rub one off.

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In the Western cannon the prime symbols of potentiality and actualization are the Mother Mary and Christ, the myth being the sacrifice of the Mother as her child is born into suffering. This tragedy is the foundation of our civilization and as such the belief in the Mother and her tragedy has given us great power. 

 

Valuing comfort over potentiality signifies a culture without potential and as such a civilization in decline. 

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I’ll be pro choice if you can convince me why my comfort is worth more than another’s life. Convince me I’m so special that my comfort is worth more than the lives of babies. 

 No one is trying to convince *you* to *get* an abortion, so your comfort does not matter. Bodily autonomy. You can't force some to donate an organ to save someone else's life, you cant force soneoneto grow another person inside them.

Pro lifers are so selfish they want to control everyone's bodies. Pro choicers just want a women to be allowed to control her own.

 There's a difference between inaction, a negative action, and a positive action. 

Inaction: Not donating organs.

Negative action: Killing a baby,

Positive action: Donating organs. 

Now if someone was connected to me from conception like a conjoined twin I wouldn't just kill them... 

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The argument falls into what does and doesn't constitute a life to someone, and at what point that the rights of the mother shift over to being about the rights of the "unborn fetus" instead. I care more about people who have already invested time into life more than little fleshy balls of potential, so I think that makes my stance pretty clear. 

A baby who hasn't been squished out of one's loins hasn't really perceived anything out of life, and therefor won't know what they're missing. Why should adult lives be sacrificed for something that won't even miss life in the first place from having never walked around within it? 

Fun Fact: If my folks weren't pro-choice, I wouldn't exist. 

I mean you could say the same about some disabled people... "They aren't fully living or invested in this life with their lack of brain function". So if you had to save a person would you save the healthy person over the disabled person? Won't miss it? You act like they are conscious after death and have a soul. Babies have souls too.

You are actually an argument I use for pro life. Some people say "they don't feel pain". I say "I know a person who feels no pain. Should they just be killed now (referring to you)?". You are part of my pro life agenda :)

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I’ll be pro choice if you can convince me why my comfort is worth more than another’s life. Convince me I’m so special that my comfort is worth more than the lives of babies. 

 Might you have gotten pregnant by some loser by any chance ?

 Nope. I can't have intimacy with a non Christian. I am even considering celibacy. It's hard to tell rn.

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The argument falls into what does and doesn't constitute a life to someone, and at what point that the rights of the mother shift over to being about the rights of the "unborn fetus" instead. I care more about people who have already invested time into life more than little fleshy balls of potential, so I think that makes my stance pretty clear. 

A baby who hasn't been squished out of one's loins hasn't really perceived anything out of life, and therefor won't know what they're missing. Why should adult lives be sacrificed for something that won't even miss life in the first place from having never walked around within it? 

Fun Fact: If my folks weren't pro-choice, I wouldn't exist. 

I mean you could say the same about some disabled people... "They aren't fully living or invested in this life with their lack of brain function".

Most mentally disabled people still have more mental function than pregnant tissue matter, or at the very least the mentally handicapped have still likely witnessed a world outside of the womb-verse. 

I don't see why a fetus ought to have rights when it's not even awakened to the world yet. 

So if you had to save a person would you save the healthy person over the disabled person?

That would be highly dependent on individual context. 

If I were close friends with the disabled person, and the healthy person was just some stranger? I'd be saving the disabled person purely because of what matters to me. 

Either way, both are different from The Unborn in that The Unborn has lived no life yet. You stand to lose what you know, so if you know nothing of living, then what is lost? 

Won't miss it? You act like they are conscious after death and have a soul. Babies have souls too.

What do you figure God would do with the souls of The Unborn? 

You are actually an argument I use for pro life. Some people say "they don't feel pain". I say "I know a person who feels no pain. Should they just be killed now (referring to you)?". You are part of my pro life agenda :)

I'm actually a case of "Pro-Choice" gone right. If "Pro-Life" were the case for my folks, they'd have had a kid much sooner, and in a causal sense I'd have never been born. 

Also I do feel pain, the pain just registers as a different sensation. 

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It's inhumane 

 

It's not about the mother, the father, the life, what's considered life yet- what the rights are of the in utero child. At what point they're considered alive, human, etc. 

 

What matters is that, it's inhumane. 

 

For this reason I'm against it *personally* 

 

And I think anyone's that's for it should open their eyes to the fact they should be disgusted with themselves. 

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What makes it inhumane? 

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https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/byivzl/my_experience_trying_to_get_an_abortion_in_the/

 

Keep abortion legal and easily accessible 

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I’ll be pro choice if you can convince me why my comfort is worth more than another’s life. Convince me I’m so special that my comfort is worth more than the lives of babies. 

 Might you have gotten pregnant by some loser by any chance ?

 Nope. I can't have intimacy with a non Christian. I am even considering celibacy. It's hard to tell rn.

 Well there's a difference when it comes to the Churches rules. Those are men's laws.

It was written that it's better to marry, than to be aflame with passion.

You may want to marry a Christian man, but that doesn't mean you know who'll you're going to fall for next. and trust me, you will fall for someone again in the midst of not thinking it can ever happen.

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