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Alright bro. See you in the liquor store next week. kek

I woke up one day and hated everything I seen around me (literally). I think I have the capacity to carve out the kind of life I fetishize, but that's impossible if I'm always too drunk to laser-focus. Plus I see others I knew passing me by, and I want to crush all of them.

 Uhh..I don't think you should use this thing as a motivation to change your life. Despite, anger and hatred will only bring you more of those. 

There are wise ancient advices out there and one of them is not comparing your self or life with others. There is no formula for success or to live life.

Bad Vibes Mickey said: 

I woke up one day and hated everything I seen around me (literally). I think I have the capacity to carve out the kind of life I fetishize, but that's impossible if I'm always too drunk to laser-focus. Plus I see others I knew passing me by, and I want to crush all of them.

 Uhh..I don't think you should use this thing as a motivation to change your life. Despite, anger and hatred will only bring you more of those. 

There are wise ancient advices out there and one of them is not comparing your self or life with others. There is no formula for success or to live life.

I don't really see him being motivated to better his life through peace alone, let alone most people I've met. He arguably needs some sort of passion to drive him away from picking the otherwise easier choice, and anger can be used proactively as long as you don't overdo it. 

He's seeing people he doesn't respect doing better than him, and that was his wake up call. If he drops this dislike, the passion's liable to go with it and therefor the drugs are more likely to come back. 

Frankly, if the passion proves to be healthier than the substance, why not try that for a while? Maybe he can dial it back once he's escaped the hole he's otherwise found himself habitually digging into. 

Xena said: 

Tryptamine said: 

I don't care much about relationships, so on that front I'm pretty fine. I've gotten into some hobbies (programming, meditation, exercise). Maybe they will work, maybe they won't.

UGH. I'm not talking about your fuckbuddies lol  Let me state this more plainly.

We have relationships with everybody from the guy who sells us our cold cuts to the people who rent our apartments to us.

Those are waaay more important than the people who suck our dicks.

I strongly disagree. Why is some random, easily replaceable work drone more important than us following our biological drives? 

Fuck, those kinds of people are arguably a reason to get into drugs, not away from them. It's easier to blaze out of your mind or drink to the bottom of a barrel than have to deal with the monotony of 100+ times of "How's the weather". Combine that with how boring life can seem without substance as a bandage and it can become easy to question why leaving substance abuse is even worth it in the first place. 

Without passion or a dream, the only reason to live is a matter of self-sustaining. 

I'm saying that as you clean up and acquire more shit that will make ppl envy you, they will tryta take anything they can from you, in the dirtiest ways possible. Out of plain spite.

He clearly expects this (wanting to be envied instead of doing the envying is even his current drive), and probably didn't want to have to deal with the complications of their pettiness. If you have nothing worth taking, then they can't get in your face about it. 

Staying home as he was is a way of not having to deal with that shit, but while in this stupor he's found a sense of shame where he'd once desired Sam Hyde style shamelessness to try to use as a ladder through envying other people's life paths. 

Turncoat said: 

Bad Vibes Mickey said: 

I woke up one day and hated everything I seen around me (literally). I think I have the capacity to carve out the kind of life I fetishize, but that's impossible if I'm always too drunk to laser-focus. Plus I see others I knew passing me by, and I want to crush all of them.

 Uhh..I don't think you should use this thing as a motivation to change your life. Despite, anger and hatred will only bring you more of those. 

There are wise ancient advices out there and one of them is not comparing your self or life with others. There is no formula for success or to live life.

I don't really see him being motivated to better his life through peace alone, let alone most people I've met. He arguably needs some sort of passion to drive him away from picking the otherwise easier choice, and anger can be used proactively as long as you don't overdo it. 

He's seeing people he doesn't respect doing better than him, and that was his wake up call. If he drops this dislike, the passion's liable to go with it and therefor the drugs are more likely to come back. 

Frankly, if the passion proves to be healthier than the substance, why not try that for a while? Maybe he can dial it back once he's escaped the hole he's otherwise found himself habitually digging into. 

 What happens when he succeeds at staying clean but he's still a loser at life? It's a one way ticket back to substance abuse. You have to do it for yourself, not to prove something.

QuietBeef said: 

What happens when he succeeds at staying clean but he's still a loser at life? It's a one way ticket back to substance abuse. You have to do it for yourself, not to prove something.

It's the same thing ego-wise, so I'd more look at which of the two's more likely to get results. A lot of people need something outside of themselves to challenge themselves while otherwise falling apart once left to their own devices (AA pushes this too). 

Doing it because of others is still him "doing it for himself", just relatively as opposed to through pure idealism. He's arguably just as liable to drop it being over himself as he is over it being over other people (maybe more likely). At least as long as he has a chip on his shoulder over how much "better" others are doing, he'll be more likely to blame himself for the choices he's making that allow others to surpass him. 

Competition is a healthy drive, as long as he's not trying to do some sort of sabotaging espionage or whatever, and as long as the stress it creates isn't a total mind killer. I've found myself that without competition that my own abilities tend to languish. 

Turncoat said: 

QuietBeef said: 

What happens when he succeeds at staying clean but he's still a loser at life? It's a one way ticket back to substance abuse. You have to do it for yourself, not to prove something.

It's the same thing ego-wise, so I'd more look at which of the two's more likely to get results. A lot of people need something outside of themselves to challenge themselves while otherwise falling apart once left to their own devices (AA pushes this too). 

Doing it because of others is still him "doing it for himself", just relatively as opposed to through pure idealism. He's arguably just as liable to drop it being over himself as he is over it being over other people (maybe more likely). At least as long as he has a chip on his shoulder over how much "better" others are doing, he'll be more likely to blame himself for the choices he's making that allow others to surpass him. 

Competition is a healthy drive, as long as he's not trying to do some sort of sabotaging espionage or whatever, and as long as the stress it creates isn't a total mind killer. I've found myself that without competition that my own abilities tend to languish. 

 Being competetive and being bitter are not the same thing. It sounds more like he wants to get clean out of spite than a genuine desire to help himself. That would mean that all it takes is others failing for him to feel like he's done enough. This is not a sustainable outlook.

QuietBeef said: 

Turncoat said: 

QuietBeef said: 

What happens when he succeeds at staying clean but he's still a loser at life? It's a one way ticket back to substance abuse. You have to do it for yourself, not to prove something.

It's the same thing ego-wise, so I'd more look at which of the two's more likely to get results. A lot of people need something outside of themselves to challenge themselves while otherwise falling apart once left to their own devices (AA pushes this too). 

Doing it because of others is still him "doing it for himself", just relatively as opposed to through pure idealism. He's arguably just as liable to drop it being over himself as he is over it being over other people (maybe more likely). At least as long as he has a chip on his shoulder over how much "better" others are doing, he'll be more likely to blame himself for the choices he's making that allow others to surpass him. 

Competition is a healthy drive, as long as he's not trying to do some sort of sabotaging espionage or whatever, and as long as the stress it creates isn't a total mind killer. I've found myself that without competition that my own abilities tend to languish. 

Being competetive and being bitter are not the same thing.

Well yeah, just like gasoline is to a car, one's the fuel for the other, but could also be used to burn the entire thing down. 

It sounds more like he wants to get clean out of spite than a genuine desire to help himself.

Which of the two do you imagine bringing him more results? 

That would mean that all it takes is others failing for him to feel like he's done enough. This is not a sustainable outlook.

When do you figure he'll think he's done enough though? 

He never states that he has, he instead aims to trivialize the goals in the first place. 

Feel free to join me for an NA meeting, or just between you and I. I can show you my NA journal and talk abotu how it worked for me and also I’m open to hearing you out on your thoughts, full disclosure. Like, it’s okay to not agree with NA and to express your thoughts on it, you have a right to do that and i will listen. 

But you need to start talking about this shit man. Ideally with someone who is willing to help make a difference. Last time you enlisted in my help, i did help you. So just try to build a good support team for yourself, of people you can openly talk to and connect with about this shit with. Ideally, people who are experienced 

QuietBeef said: 

Turncoat said: 

Bad Vibes Mickey said: 

I woke up one day and hated everything I seen around me (literally). I think I have the capacity to carve out the kind of life I fetishize, but that's impossible if I'm always too drunk to laser-focus. Plus I see others I knew passing me by, and I want to crush all of them.

 Uhh..I don't think you should use this thing as a motivation to change your life. Despite, anger and hatred will only bring you more of those. 

There are wise ancient advices out there and one of them is not comparing your self or life with others. There is no formula for success or to live life.

I don't really see him being motivated to better his life through peace alone, let alone most people I've met. He arguably needs some sort of passion to drive him away from picking the otherwise easier choice, and anger can be used proactively as long as you don't overdo it. 

He's seeing people he doesn't respect doing better than him, and that was his wake up call. If he drops this dislike, the passion's liable to go with it and therefor the drugs are more likely to come back. 

Frankly, if the passion proves to be healthier than the substance, why not try that for a while? Maybe he can dial it back once he's escaped the hole he's otherwise found himself habitually digging into. 

 What happens when he succeeds at staying clean but he's still a loser at life? It's a one way ticket back to substance abuse. You have to do it for yourself, not to prove something.

 The key to happiness and sobriety isn’t not being a loser or success 

that’s just capitalism brain washing rubbing off on you 

everyone has their own road to happiness, and I’m not one to judge how they find it. There’s no harm in leaving no rock unturned as an experimental thing that ends up teaching you shit. So i get it, when people are in a different place than they need to be mentally. 

To be of sound mind or, internal contentment or peace or, to be happy. 

But just be warned a lot of roads will come up empty