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Not really a "waaaaah" kind of person. Can't use gif's on my phone, but trust that I'd have a great one for this moment.

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Hell yeah.

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haart stated: source post

Not really a "waaaaah" kind of person. Can't use gif's on my phone, but trust that I'd have a great one for this moment.

There you go, again. "Waaah!" 

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Tryptamine stated: source post

 Would you be willing to explain how quantum physics imparts free will?

Quantum physics does not prove free will in any way but it introduces holes in our understanding of the universe that may or may not be able to hold something akin to free will. If events on a subatomic level have an element of randomness to them then that will break causal chains and ruin determinism. Our perception of reality is also anthropomorphically flawed; maybe we have free will if seen from inside 'our' space-time but not when observed from the outside?

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MissCommunication stated: source post

I never know why one story will stick in my brain over others

I'd say that it's an illustration of the selective nature of empathy. Ask yourself honestly, would this particular story have stuck in your brain if there was the exact same set of circumstances but it had happened in Russia? What about, again same set of circumstances, but the couple were childless and going on the road trip to celebrate his release from prison? Or if they were devout muslims who had stopped at the roadside to pray? 

Too many bad things go on in the world for you to empathise with everyone, so your brain is picking the ones that you relate to because you see yourself or your family members in them. 

but the whole idea of fate is gnawing at my mind. Had they left a day earlier or later, or even an hour later, or if they wouldn't have stopped in that particular place at that particular time, or opened the door, or did whatever they did that enabled shit to go down, would they have survived? So many random variables led to one fuck awful encounter no one could have foreseen. Including the killer. 

Have you looked at it from the pov of the life history of the killer though? It might be a random, out-of-the-blue end to the couple's story, but it wasn't just a random event for the killer, it was what his (and I'm presuming it's a him) life had led up to. You don't say whether he was caught or not, but for better or worse this was an event, maybe even a turning point, in his life too. 

And maybe it changed the course of the life of the person/people who found the trailer, the cops working on the case, the families of the victims and the killer... it had unknown repercussions in many people's lives that you'll know nothing about just from reading about it. Maybe even for people like yourself just from reading the story it might change their life perhaps in subtle and unknown ways. If you believe in fate, then for the couple themselves, yes, it was random, but maybe for the wider universe it had a purpose.  

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Tryptamine stated: source post

"Is it fate or just random circumstance?"

Fated to happen. Seemingly random to the person these things happen to.

 

Fate
1. the development of events beyond a person's control, regarded as determined by a supernatural power.

 

I'd reckon it's circumstantial. Unlike the inanimate, the mind is self collapsing. Regardless if the killer's reasons are complicated or not, the outcome of the event has been determined by one's thoughts and actions. Random in the sense we don't always see such calamities when it's coming, but one person still knew what they were up to, and it matters not how long it took the killer to take action when the opportunity to strike presented itself.

Some would say emotions play a role in what decisions we make, and this is true only to a degree due to the fact emotions can at times fail to inspire or deter us for making certain decisions we might regret. If the emotions had complete say in what we actually do, then life would be so automatic and then we'd find the concept of fate to come into play every time, while no one would be held accountable for what they've done. 

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Say we nuked an asteroid to save planet Earth, we could in essence "sign our own fate" when the inevitable asteroid pieces rain down from the sky, even if the Earth had to orbit the Sun for several generations to meet those fragments which remained in our neck of the woods cause it couldn't escape the Sun's pull. The modern world would even be able to track and calculate their arrival, where they will touch down, and how much of a storm it'll be.

Or we can narrow it down to just an anonymous meteor falling from the sky and striking someone dead. Regardless of one being unaware that the meteor would touch down, the way to avoid being in the wrong place or not is still done mentally, while the meteor was on course to touch down a very long time ago. It's just no one knew about it.

 

 

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Misscommuncation, is a hideous, lonely, virgin, who's being treated for anti social personality disorder and sadistic projection of the basement dwelling disorder 

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I believe in the illusion  of free will. God directs fate.

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