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it can also be a 0.000001%

the exact number doesnt matter

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The chance of a kid of becoming a genius is the exact chance of an adult you care less about of being a genius. Cold logic fucks you up again. Choosing random kid over random adult from a statistical POV still makes the adult a better bet.

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ThenFuckit stated: source post

gonna quote myself from skype:

 

"But a child has the potential to be a surgeon or a genius. While an average adult who lives shows that he doesn't have those abilities.
Of course the average child has a very small % to be such a great person. However the value of this small % is very very high, because one genius can change the world forever.
And as you grow you show your true self and this % to be a genius gets smaller and smaller, which makes your potential value smaller and smaller.
even 1% has a great value
and if we say that 0.1% is like idk 100000 value, then as you grow and you lose 0.1% potential to be a genius, your value drops a lot.
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The chance of a kid of becoming a genius is the exact chance of an adult you care less about of being a genius. Cold logic fucks you up again. Choosing kid vs adult from a stat POV still makes the adult a better bet.

find the bold part^... if you think the bold part is wrong, tell me why, if you don't read my posts, don't respond

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The difference lies in how an adult can be objectively measured while a child can, at best, be subjectively measured when it comes to looking at it's future. 

It's the difference between getting a loan and gambling your money away into a slot machine. 

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ThenFuckit stated: source post


And as you grow you show your true self and this % to be a genius gets smaller and smaller, which makes your potential value smaller and smaller.

What if it gets higher and higher? The fuck

Dude when you gave a random number estimate for the kid's chance of becoming a genius, you based that on the incidence of geniuses in the world I assume. When you kill a random kid there is the same change that you killed a future genius, as the chance of you killing an adult genius when you kill a random adult. Anything that's not in agreement with this is NOT logic man.

You end up with hypothetical/potential genius vs real genius, the same dilemma we've been having from the start.

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the average person wont become a genius, obviously.

and as someone develops you can see that he wont be a genius(on average)... and as you can see that it decreases his potential to be a genius. overtime. which decreases his potential value.

 

The chance to kill a future genius kid is higher then the chance to kill a future genius adult, if you kill one of these groups at random. Obviously. How are they the same, when the kid has more opportunities and a higher chance, because he has more time to develop, while an adult would have wasted his opportunities(on average, an adult is not a genius, so he must of wasted his opportunities to be one) and has less time for more opportunities?

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Turncoat stated: source post

The difference lies in how an adult can be objectively measured while a child can, at best, be subjectively measured when it comes to looking at it's future. 

It's the difference between getting a loan and gambling your money away into a slot machine. 

i agree, this makes the value much smaller, then if a child would always be 100% awesome.

But like i said, it takes one awesome person to change the world forever. 

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ThenFuckit stated: source post

The chance to kill a future genius kid is higher then the chance to kill a future genius adult, if you kill one of these groups at random. Obviously. How are they the same, when the kid has more opportunities and a higher chance, because he has more time to develop, while an adult would have wasted his opportunities(on average, an adult is not a genius, so he must of wasted his opportunities to be one) and has less time for more opportunities?

I don't get this. A kid has a higher potential (because we don't know how he'll turn out) but the average adult had that same potential once. Since a random kid is going to turn into an average adult, how can the chance to pick out a genius kid be higher than the chance to pick out a genius adult? It should be the same.

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Are you... by chance, purely... a robot?

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ThenFuckit stated: source post

 

Turncoat stated: source post

The difference lies in how an adult can be objectively measured while a child can, at best, be subjectively measured when it comes to looking at it's future. 

It's the difference between getting a loan and gambling your money away into a slot machine. 

i agree, this makes the value much smaller, then if a child would always be 100% awesome.

But like i said, it takes one awesome person to change the world forever. 

It takes one person, to make a change in the world of another, forever, whether it is awesome or not....is for the recipient to decide.

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Back to the opening premise...and those that would prefer to ignore reality, in favor....of I haven't a fucking clue..

 

I don't argue with reality....

Next point....pedophiles can rarely rehabilitated ( 47% reoffense rate if not higher , those are the one that are caught ). They have the highest rate of recidivism. And they are the same group/ "people' arguing for lowering the age of consent laws. 

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