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Why? You'd have been taken more seriously if you'd admitted to the error right then and there. 

I said pride. 

I'm pretty sure more than that has been said. 

Like what?

 

I also apologized about that afterwards.

That doesn't really change that it was said, it simply diffuses the impact of it until the next time it's relevant. 

Do you not see a difference from someone who does it and doesn't apologize? As in, most people here who pick on abusive childhoods?

Why bother?

Why do you bother to make statements that lack credibility then?

It's not impossible, and again, second hand smoke's a thing. 

Lung cancer at 23 is rare as fuck dude. The circumstances and purpose of the story were very telling too. If you find TS's story believable, remind me never to ask you if smth is bullshit or not.

Lung cancer mainly occurs in older people. About 2 out of 3 people diagnosed with lung cancer are 65 or older, while less than 2% are younger than 45. The average age at the time of diagnosis is about 70.

 

Does this sound like blanc was just taking a piss the other day?

Actually, yeah, potentially. 

So...are you saying she didn't care about people questioning her abuse? Or lying about the abuse itself? Or what

 

What does this have to do with what I said? Is this you saying "I don't do that!" in a way that doesn't seem as weak and self-directed?

Yes. I was being as vague as you are with the accusations, but you expect me to explain myself. Burden of truth is on you.

 

I keep pushing because you keep denying it. I figure if I do it enough, maybe you'll start to see it. 

If you wanted me to see it, you'd point out concrete examples, at the moment they happen. They also have to be overwhelming in number, surpassing everyone's normal bias here to warrant such obsessive repetition from your part

 

...they're only "buttons" because they affect you, because they apply to you. If they didn't they'd be easier for you to dismiss. 

A meaningless theory. It is a normal reaction of anyone who gets accused of crap they disagree with. Are you saying Xena keeps defending herself from being called a pedophile because she is a pedophile?

 

You've lumped before then too, during the infamous and easy to reference Kiwi drama. 


Seriously, take each person as a separate entity and you'll be taken more seriously. It's not all conspiratorial pairings and cliques, and you'll serve to weaken them by dividing them as opposed to lumping them together.

The clique was just an observation. One you failed to make. When I reply to people I usually quote their exact words. You implying "I'm not being taken seriously" for lumping people together is manipulative.

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Edvard stated: source post

Turncoat stated: source post

Why? You'd have been taken more seriously if you'd admitted to the error right then and there. 

I said pride. 

This isn't "then and there", this is "in hindsight and elsewhere". 
 

I'm pretty sure more than that has been said. 

Like what?

...are you seriously denying the former attacks you've done in chat?
 

 

I also apologized about that afterwards.

That doesn't really change that it was said, it simply diffuses the impact of it until the next time it's relevant. 

Do you not see a difference from someone who does it and doesn't apologize? As in, most people here who pick on abusive childhoods?

I see a difference between someone who does that and doesn't give a fuck and someone who does that and tries to play it off like they're better than that. 
 

Why bother?

Why do you bother to make statements that lack credibility then?

You can't seriously be this Alzheimery at your age. 

Well... I guess it can happen to younger people, either as a rare case or a result of inbreeding, but that's likely rarer than young age lung cancer. 
 

It's not impossible, and again, second hand smoke's a thing. 

Lung cancer at 23 is rare as fuck dude. The circumstances and purpose of the story were very telling too. If you find TS's story believable, remind me never to ask you if smth is bullshit or not.

To repeat myself, I was talking about lung cancer, not TS. 
 

Lung cancer mainly occurs in older people. About 2 out of 3 people diagnosed with lung cancer are 65 or older, while less than 2% are younger than 45. The average age at the time of diagnosis is about 70.

At first glance, lung cancer in young people may seem uncommon. But considering that lung cancer is the leading cause of cancer deaths in men and women in the United States, even a small percentage can translate to many people with the disease. It’s estimated that 224,210 people will be diagnosed with lung cancer in 2014 and 159,260 will die. Of these people, 1.2 to 6.2% are under the age of 40, and 13.4% are under the age of 50. A quick calculation reveals that roughly 30,000 people under the age of 50 will be diagnosed with lung cancer in 2014 and slightly over 21,000 young adults will die from the disease.

Secondhand smoke contains thousands of chemicals, a number of which are known to cause cancer. Even brief exposure to secondhand smoke can cause a number of health problems in both adults and children, including lung cancer, asthma, heart disease, colds, ear infections, and pneumonia. Avoiding secondhand smoke completely is the best prevention strategy; opening windows, using a fan, or turning on an air conditioner do not eliminate the risks associated with secondhand smoke.
 

Does this sound like blanc was just taking a piss the other day?

Actually, yeah, potentially. 

So...are you saying she didn't care about people questioning her abuse? Or lying about the abuse itself? Or what

Mostly saying as a disconnected point that there isn't much there that shows that she's actually affected. 
 

What does this have to do with what I said? Is this you saying "I don't do that!" in a way that doesn't seem as weak and self-directed?

Yes. I was being as vague as you are with the accusations, but you expect me to explain myself. Burden of truth is on you.

The "I'm doing what you're doing" argument followed by calling upon "The Burden of Truth". 

This stuff's old news, and you've shown that parroting will be a waste of time. 
 

I keep pushing because you keep denying it. I figure if I do it enough, maybe you'll start to see it. 

If you wanted me to see it, you'd point out concrete examples, at the moment they happen. They also have to be overwhelming in number, surpassing everyone's normal bias here to warrant such obsessive repetition from your part

No wonder you're stuck as you are. 
 

...they're only "buttons" because they affect you, because they apply to you. If they didn't they'd be easier for you to dismiss. 

A meaningless theory. It is a normal reaction of anyone who gets accused of crap they disagree with. Are you saying Xena keeps defending herself from being called a pedophile because she is a pedophile?

I'm meaning you, not people. Xena'd defend herself from even the most insane accusations made because she can't help herself, while you wouldn't from having actual lines drawn.  
 

You've lumped before then too, during the infamous and easy to reference Kiwi drama. 


Seriously, take each person as a separate entity and you'll be taken more seriously. It's not all conspiratorial pairings and cliques, and you'll serve to weaken them by dividing them as opposed to lumping them together.

The clique was just an observation. One you failed to make. When I reply to people I usually quote their exact words.

It's an "observation" you made to make your platform less slippery. 
 

You implying "I'm not being taken seriously" for lumping people together is manipulative.

...but you aren't, and part of it is because of that

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Turncoat stated: source post

 

Edvard stated: source post

Turncoat stated: source post

Why? You'd have been taken more seriously if you'd admitted to the error right then and there. 

I said pride. 

This isn't "then and there", this is "in hindsight and elsewhere". 

The fuck does this even mean.

...are you seriously denying the former attacks you've done in chat?

When I talked about Jim role playing Alena's brother or...?

I see a difference between someone who does that and doesn't give a fuck and someone who does that and tries to play it off like they're better than that. 

So when someone apologizes they are playing off they are better than...not giving a fuck? Have all your apologies been insincere? XD

 

Well... I guess it can happen to younger people, either as a rare case or a result of inbreeding, but that's likely rarer than young age lung cancer. 

Focus Turncoat. Stay with me, man. Don't lose yourself to weird convoluted thought.

To repeat myself, I was talking about lung cancer, not TS. 

Why the fuck were you talking about cancer in general? Focus on the conversation, my man. Stop drifting away from context with unrelated shit.

Mostly saying as a disconnected point that there isn't much there that shows that she's actually affected. 

Maybe you should stay more connected?

This stuff's old news, and you've shown that parroting will be a waste of time. 

Yet you've done nothing but parroting the same thing so far, then chickened out of concrete examples. But I understand it, who doesn't play to their strength when cornered.

 
...they're only "buttons" because they affect you, because they apply to you. If they didn't they'd be easier for you to dismiss. 

A meaningless theory. It is a normal reaction of anyone who gets accused of crap they disagree with. Are you saying Xena keeps defending herself from being called a pedophile because she is a pedophile?

I'm meaning you, not people. Xena'd defend herself from even the most insane accusations made because she can't help herself, while you wouldn't from having actual lines drawn.  

I haven't been accused of much other outrageous unfair stuff yet.

...but you aren't, and part of it is because of that

Again ignoring that I quote every little shit I reply to keeping people pretty unlumped together. You are too frustrating to talk to Turn. You keep going in circles and provide nothing.

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Turncoat stated: source post

 

Edvard stated: source post

Turncoat stated: source post

Why? You'd have been taken more seriously if you'd admitted to the error right then and there. 

I said pride. 

This isn't "then and there", this is "in hindsight and elsewhere". 
 

I'm pretty sure more than that has been said. 

Like what?

...are you seriously denying the former attacks you've done in chat?
 

 

I also apologized about that afterwards.

That doesn't really change that it was said, it simply diffuses the impact of it until the next time it's relevant. 

Do you not see a difference from someone who does it and doesn't apologize? As in, most people here who pick on abusive childhoods?

I see a difference between someone who does that and doesn't give a fuck and someone who does that and tries to play it off like they're better than that. 
 

Why bother?

Why do you bother to make statements that lack credibility then?

You can't seriously be this Alzheimery at your age. 

Well... I guess it can happen to younger people, either as a rare case or a result of inbreeding, but that's likely rarer than young age lung cancer. 
 

It's not impossible, and again, second hand smoke's a thing. 

Lung cancer at 23 is rare as fuck dude. The circumstances and purpose of the story were very telling too. If you find TS's story believable, remind me never to ask you if smth is bullshit or not.

To repeat myself, I was talking about lung cancer, not TS. 
 

Lung cancer mainly occurs in older people. About 2 out of 3 people diagnosed with lung cancer are 65 or older, while less than 2% are younger than 45. The average age at the time of diagnosis is about 70.

At first glance, lung cancer in young people may seem uncommon. But considering that lung cancer is the leading cause of cancer deaths in men and women in the United States, even a small percentage can translate to many people with the disease. It’s estimated that 224,210 people will be diagnosed with lung cancer in 2014 and 159,260 will die. Of these people, 1.2 to 6.2% are under the age of 40, and 13.4% are under the age of 50. A quick calculation reveals that roughly 30,000 people under the age of 50 will be diagnosed with lung cancer in 2014 and slightly over 21,000 young adults will die from the disease.

Secondhand smoke contains thousands of chemicals, a number of which are known to cause cancer. Even brief exposure to secondhand smoke can cause a number of health problems in both adults and children, including lung cancer, asthma, heart disease, colds, ear infections, and pneumonia. Avoiding secondhand smoke completely is the best prevention strategy; opening windows, using a fan, or turning on an air conditioner do not eliminate the risks associated with secondhand smoke.
 

Does this sound like blanc was just taking a piss the other day?

Actually, yeah, potentially. 

So...are you saying she didn't care about people questioning her abuse? Or lying about the abuse itself? Or what

Mostly saying as a disconnected point that there isn't much there that shows that she's actually affected. 
 

What does this have to do with what I said? Is this you saying "I don't do that!" in a way that doesn't seem as weak and self-directed?

Yes. I was being as vague as you are with the accusations, but you expect me to explain myself. Burden of truth is on you.

The "I'm doing what you're doing" argument followed by calling upon "The Burden of Truth". 

This stuff's old news, and you've shown that parroting will be a waste of time. 
 

I keep pushing because you keep denying it. I figure if I do it enough, maybe you'll start to see it. 

If you wanted me to see it, you'd point out concrete examples, at the moment they happen. They also have to be overwhelming in number, surpassing everyone's normal bias here to warrant such obsessive repetition from your part

No wonder you're stuck as you are. 
 

...they're only "buttons" because they affect you, because they apply to you. If they didn't they'd be easier for you to dismiss. 

A meaningless theory. It is a normal reaction of anyone who gets accused of crap they disagree with. Are you saying Xena keeps defending herself from being called a pedophile because she is a pedophile?

I'm meaning you, not people. Xena'd defend herself from even the most insane accusations made because she can't help herself, while you wouldn't from having actual lines drawn.  
 

You've lumped before then too, during the infamous and easy to reference Kiwi drama. 


Seriously, take each person as a separate entity and you'll be taken more seriously. It's not all conspiratorial pairings and cliques, and you'll serve to weaken them by dividing them as opposed to lumping them together.

The clique was just an observation. One you failed to make. When I reply to people I usually quote their exact words.

It's an "observation" you made to make your platform less slippery. 
 

You implying "I'm not being taken seriously" for lumping people together is manipulative.

...but you aren't, and part of it is because of that

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tl;dr

except the part where Tardcunt said I defend myself excessively.

I lol'd.

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Edvard stated: source post

Turncoat stated: source post

Edvard stated: source post

Turncoat stated: source post

Why? You'd have been taken more seriously if you'd admitted to the error right then and there. 

I said pride. 

This isn't "then and there", this is "in hindsight and elsewhere". 

The fuck does this even mean.

That you admitted it was pride when it was well after the fact instead of when you originally realized that you went too far. 

"Oh shit, I didn't mean it like that" would have sent an entirely different message during the event. 
 

I see a difference between someone who does that and doesn't give a fuck and someone who does that and tries to play it off like they're better than that. 

So when someone apologizes they are playing off they are better than...not giving a fuck? 

The attack, not the apology. You don't like it when people do what you do, and when you do it you somehow don't see yourself as being as low as they are from being absorbed by that moment. 
 

 

Well... I guess it can happen to younger people, either as a rare case or a result of inbreeding, but that's likely rarer than young age lung cancer. 

Focus Turncoat. Stay with me, man. Don't lose yourself to weird convoluted thought.

To repeat myself, I was talking about lung cancer, not TS. 

Why the fuck were you talking about cancer in general? Focus on the conversation, my man. Stop drifting away from context with unrelated shit.

Mostly saying as a disconnected point that there isn't much there that shows that she's actually affected. 

Maybe you should stay more connected?

Are... you unable to follow a conversation unless it's only about one point? 
 

This stuff's old news, and you've shown that parroting will be a waste of time. 

Yet you've done nothing but parroting the same thing so far

You see, this is why I was joking about you being Alzheimer-y. I shouldn't have to explain the same thing to you over and over otherwise. 

It's seriously a waste of time, none of it sinks in. 
 

then chickened out of concrete examples.

Inb4 the return of chicken gifs. 
 

 
...they're only "buttons" because they affect you, because they apply to you. If they didn't they'd be easier for you to dismiss. 

A meaningless theory. It is a normal reaction of anyone who gets accused of crap they disagree with. Are you saying Xena keeps defending herself from being called a pedophile because she is a pedophile?

I'm meaning you, not people. Xena'd defend herself from even the most insane accusations made because she can't help herself, while you wouldn't from having actual lines drawn.  

I haven't been accused of much other outrageous unfair stuff yet.

So... you would defend yourself against even the most absurd of points? 
 

...but you aren't, and part of it is because of that

Again ignoring that I quote every little shit I reply to keeping people pretty unlumped together. You are too frustrating to talk to Turn.

You use the quotes to attack your lumps. 
 

You keep going in circles and provide nothing.

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I didn't mean it? Are you so desperate to take any meaning from my feeling bad about what I said, that you're claiming to know what I felt? You not accepting my apology was you being bitchy about it. It made me a bit feel less sorry, tbh.

You four girls are a clique, motivated to jump into each other's defense when you are not initially involved. This doesn't happen when others are involved, this constantly.

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Imma fite them all.

Cowardly little hobbit chicks can only yap when it's 4 on one.

They should meet me at Tim Horton's in Toronto. Blanc and I will fuck them up.

Hell, I'll fuck them up without any help from blanc.

:D

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Damien stated: source post

Everyone in pubs called Blanc full of shit. Can't even recall Haart acting much differently. Why is this even a topic?

Er, I was only there for the aftermath.

On the subject, though, blanc has always been patently trolling, and I don't know how it's gone on this long. You might recall that it was me who originally found the Tumblr blog "she" sourced her pictures from.

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Turncoat stated: source post

That you admitted it was pride when it was well after the fact instead of when you originally realized that you went too far. 

"Oh shit, I didn't mean it like that" would have sent an entirely different message during the event. 

That you are going on about this is amazing. I said how things happened and was sincere about it. You complain when I don't admit my faults, you complain when I admit my faults.... The fuck do you want from me?

The attack, not the apology. You don't like it when people do what you do, and when you do it you somehow don't see yourself as being as low as they are from being absorbed by that moment. 

My incident with Alena had little similarity to what happened with blanc. Apologies are also important, actively trying to mend your mistake is even more important. Stepping on your pride, even if later, means a lot more than not stepping on your pride at all.

Are... you unable to follow a conversation unless it's only about one point? 

You sometimes show ideatic slipping similar to MrOmega. I understand why you say some things, but I'm trying to keep the convo on track and in the relevance zone. ("I am talking about the probability of cancer not about the probability of TS having cancer"... Why are you, Turncoat??)

You see, this is why I was joking about you being Alzheimer-y. I shouldn't have to explain the same thing to you over and over otherwise. 

It's seriously a waste of time, none of it sinks in. 

You just said that in the other thread. You're saying it again.  I guess you like wasting time then.

So... you would defend yourself against even the most absurd of points? 

I am now, since being the most double-standared person here is pretty absurd. I have in the past, against me being "the most untrustworthy person here" accusation too (Crow backtracked on that, BTW). I care more when people who matter more to me make the points, than about the points themselves.

You use the quotes to attack your lumps. 

Back this up? I'm struggling to imagine how replying to each person's quotes lumps people together.

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