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First you would have to believe in religious tripe...

Unconditional Election is the doctrine which states that God chose those whom he was pleased to bring to a knowledge of himself

..as I am not SZ...religious , or otherwise disordered or impaired...you are arguing with a wall of indifference in an attempt at a point which is moot unless both parties are united in a quagmire of differing belief systems...

Seriously?  Well.. if we could understand the inner workings, desires, and nuances of G-d with our three pound water sacks floating between our ears... well... wouldn't be much of a god then would it?

Then we'd be Gods if we understood...which we don't....and flounder about in wonder and awe....and I am sure the Gods if they are watching are laughing their asses off....

"and I am sure the Gods if they are watching are laughing their asses off...."

This tells something about you... some believe God may be crying... or pissed... you chose to see God as laughing at us.  I see It as looking down with a smile, nothing more, and I have "know" idea what that smile means.  But I'm glad I'm loved...

Namaste...

TPG stated: source post

why cant our universe just be an oddity instead of it having to have intelligent design,its pure speculation no?

It's a byproduct of human ego. We're simply too "amazing" and "perfect" to have been made by random chance. If we had been the product of "intelligent design", I'd figure that we'd be better than this personally. 

"Made in God's Image" really means we made him in ours. It's all ego tripping to cope with the world being chaos. 

"I do believe this vast universe shows massive evidence of intelligent design "

Me too. There's even a similar order to how most things in existence function and fluctuate in order to remain balanced(or amidst achieving it)

"There are intelligent Christians who study word usage, text, context, culture, and all aspects of what was going down at the time of the writing"

I don't believe however intelligent anyone could be, that they could comprehend even a fraction of what a god might intend, his nature, what he deems right and wrong. I disagree with the bible on all levels and believe it was made by man, for man. There's a reason there's so many stories of men/kings in it, just immortalizing themselves in history through stories.

It just seems so pretentious, so arrogant and pompous that any person would think they have a definite view of what god is/wants. It's a reason even atheists(the ones that 100% dont believe there could be a god) piss me off at times. The figure used to estimate the number of galaxies in the universe is more than the individual grains of sand in every desert on earth. Yet, people are so set on rigid beliefs when it comes to religion? 

TPG stated: source post

why cant our universe just be an oddity instead of it having to have intelligent design,its pure speculation no?

Because this universe isn't a series of oddities/chaos. It's mass reacting within a certain set of rules and in constant flux with different cycles. If this existence was such and oddity, things like scientific laws would have contradictions and instances that disobeyed it. There's an order to things and it centers around the theme of balance, which could have been made randomly but I have my doubts.

There's little here to say that we aren't seeing patterns where there aren't really any, like many a crazed numerologist. It could all be well-shrouded coincidence. 

That's a possibility. I doubt it though, considering the way we see crucial cycles and laws remains consistent. Things that if we saw them differently than how they actually operated would mean disastrous results

Systematic stated: source post

It just seems so pretentious, so arrogant and pompous that any person would think they have a definite view of what god is/wants.

It's in a sunrise... a babies cry... the iris of your eye.

You are so correct... no man has comprehended even an enth of what G-d is yet man still tries to see G-d in human like qualities...

"I disagree with the bible on all levels"

I made this same statement... and then something jumped out between the lines... and now I read the Bible a bit differently.

chaos can have rules and limits,the universe was built upon a series of imperfections and pure coincidences and thus life is born out  of a coincidence too,sure if it had a genetic code it adhered to purely then yeah but that would just limit the universe itself to human limitations no?and if it is an oddity isnt it possible that its oddness would just be the whole package i.e its odd that scientific laws dont contradict and the universe supposedly cant have a parodox because that is an oddity,its more imperfection than odd what the fuck