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Do you consider hate to be good?


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also cite your specific reasons thanks

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Do you consider hate to be good?

sometimes. political hate makes me feel alive.

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Do you consider hate to be good?

Hatred is just hatred.  Love is just love.  You can hate evil.  You can love murder.  Context is much more important than a word alone.

...So, I guess my response is yes and no.  I'm sure you're smart enough to figure out the rest and save me the time typing further. ;)

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I'm talking real hatred, not mere dislike for some object or personality or taste.

On it's own it's an illness,that can impair your critical thinking and better judgement in ways that will undo us. Prolonged hatred will stress out the physical body, disrupt sleep patters, accelerate the aging process, unpleasant dreams, chest pains, high blood pressure, organ failure, grandiose violent fantasies, shorten the lifespan and create other complications the majority would doubt. 

When hatred been going on for long enough, it also makes a fool of the hater who knows nothing of any solution to the frustration and anger that enfeeble the quality of their life.

There 100% is a cure for this, but it sounds undesirable or untrue to the hater.

Seriously, hate is only good when the beholder can master it, and mastering it doesn't entail keeping it up.

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..quite the shift in thinking there Spatial...

Seriously, hate is only good when the beholder can master it, and mastering it doesn't entail keeping it up.

What is the root of the hatred in another...that is an interesting exploration...and it masks itself of  hurt./anger...many things, to dull the pain...and those that don't dull it....there is a different expression

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Do you consider hate to be good?

Primal stated: source post

What is the root of the hatred in another...that is an interesting exploration...and it masks itself as hurt./anger...many things, to dull the pain...and those that don't dull it....there is a different expression

 

It's range spans for different reasons regarding emotional states. It could be from jealousy, or from the other perspective it's something a jealous person has done or is doing. Betrayal and such.

It's important to note we can only hate who we once loved or admired.  

For example the media can program the masses to dislike someone, but the masses won't really lose any sleep over it unless it really matters to them.

We never knew Osama Bin Laden to truly hate him, the way we would hate family or a friend who went sour and tried to destroy us, cause the only people in the world that have the capacity to draw hatred from us, are the ones that matter and are close to us.  

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Hatred is energy, energy has potential. Any excess in emotion can be steered in a different direction with the right mentality.

Few emotions convert into passion and drive as well as hate does. There's a reason a good rivalry is valued.

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Do you consider hate to be good?

Spatial Mind stated: source post

 

Primal stated: source post

What is the root of the hatred in another...that is an interesting exploration...and it masks itself as hurt./anger...many things, to dull the pain...and those that don't dull it....there is a different expression

 

It's range spans for different reasons regarding emotional states. It could be from jealousy, or from the other perspective it's something a jealous person has done or is doing. Betrayal and such.

It's important to note we can only hate who we once loved or admired.  

Disagree with that, some people hate without any sense, racism, misogyny, misandry....that sort of thing is something else. 

For example the media can program the masses to dislike someone, but the masses won't really lose any sleep over it unless it really matters to them.

We never knew Osama Bin Laden to truly hate him, the way we would hate family or a friend who went sour and tried to destroy us, cause the only people in the world that have the capacity to draw hatred from us, are the ones that matter and are close to us.  

Hmmm...understand your meaning. Still..remains a question of intent...so...even then, hatred ...decouples reason...as does love. Disgust and contempt are more akin to hatred, maybe? 

On it's own it's an illness,that can impair your critical thinking and better judgement in ways that will undo us.

You did state that previously though. But is hatred an illness?  Certainly starts to look like one over time. 

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Do you consider hate to be good?

Just like any other emotion, hate is a drive. I can't consider it to be either bad or good, because the outcomes that blossom from it are so varied. There are times where it can build you up, or tear you down. The same can be said about love (think unrequited love).

This thread reminded me of a fragment of an essay I read 12 years ago. In it, a man wrote of how during the Cold War and especially the Second Red Scare, his hatred of communism gave him a sense of purpose. The rhetoric gave him something tangible to attach himself to. There was the feeling of clarity, even if the vision itself was distorted.

He lamented that after the fall of the Berlin Wall, he'd lost a good piece of his vigorousness. Hate, he concluded, was preferable to listlessness. Hatred at least gave him energy.

Most of the hatred I see is anger displacement, and that is assuredly true in the case of the man I just mentioned. But if I try to be objective, reasoning does not lead me to see even that deluded form of hate as "bad." It gives the ego something to operate from, and I cannot put further judgment on it without making generalizations about something rife with intricacy.

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Do you consider hate to be good?

Primal stated: source post

 

Spatial Mind stated: source post

 

Primal stated: source post

What is the root of the hatred in another...that is an interesting exploration...and it masks itself as hurt./anger...many things, to dull the pain...and those that don't dull it....there is a different expression

 

It's range spans for different reasons regarding emotional states. It could be from jealousy, or from the other perspective it's something a jealous person has done or is doing. Betrayal and such.

It's important to note we can only hate who we once loved or admired.  

Disagree with that, some people hate without any sense, racism, misogyny, misandry....that sort of thing is something else. 

Even though the reasons behind those things are petty, it still has sense.

After experiencing hatred myself for 7 years, I've realized people use the word 'hate' as loosely as some of us say 'starving' when they're just hungry.

A racist will not loose sleep over disliking another race. They just ensure themselves of what power they have out of insecurity and claim supremacy over other races.

Misogyny and misandry comes from bad experiences and those who blame an entire gender would have stories about specific members of that gender and what they did, and those specific people are most likely the ones they hate. Like the racist, ignorance came into play and it sugar coated the whole outlook of insecurity.    

Hate has us tremble in our beds and causes us to think of the hated all the time, Even years after we never made any contact with this person who may or may not be dead. Hatred is like an obsession that is specified toward a known figure. Especially if you're known them.

 

 

For example the media can program the masses to dislike someone, but the masses won't really lose any sleep over it unless it really matters to them.

We never knew Osama Bin Laden to truly hate him, the way we would hate family or a friend who went sour and tried to destroy us, cause the only people in the world that have the capacity to draw hatred from us, are the ones that matter and are close to us.  

Hmmm...understand your meaning. Still..remains a question of intent...so...even then, hatred ...decouples reason...as does love. Disgust and contempt are more akin to hatred, maybe? 

 

Petty reasons are still reasons as petty actions can encourage the state of what other people think and feel. In my personal case, I feel I was given a good reason to hate and I was not the bad guy of those chapters. What I mean to convey is, in hatred the reasons come across as very bold, and I think most people if not all, can understand it.

 

On it's own it's an illness,that can impair your critical thinking and better judgement in ways that will undo us.

You did state that previously though. But is hatred an illness?  Certainly starts to look like one over time. 

By definition, hate absolutely is an illness because of the unhealthy effects it has on the body and mind.

The body can only deal with so much adrenaline, and real hatred has the beholder in constant states of rage. The stress is real and so are the physical aliments such as high blood pressure which can lead to other physical illnesses.

Actively disliking a gender or race or a food or a person or any inanimate object, doesn't deal out on the same level as hate.

A white racist may say they don't like black people, because they are criminals, and they are not trustworthy, and they are this and that. But whatever their reasons are, it can also be found in their own race, but they keep telling themselves, they hate, and for these reasons, and they love their own.

Like the word Love, the word hate is often not used correctly either.

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