People go to support groups because they need social support and perspective. I don't need that.
I don't imagine substance abuse will always be a part of my life. It's always acted as a filler. I drop it when it's obtrusive.
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It's more like I am prone to being frequently intoxicated when I'm not happy with the general narrative of my life.
How often is that?
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Unlikely. I don't need a hugbox to understand why I do what I do or its consequences, nor a shoulder to cry on about it all.
^ This. The guy is like 3x more educated than most of the social work types who run those things and probably twice as smart. That's like putting a world class athlete in a middle school gym class bc he messed up his leg.
r00d alena :P
What a pompous thing to say. What does intelligence have to do with overcoming an addiction? Some of the most brilliant people I've ever encountered also had the poorest life coping skills I've ever seen. Cognitive intelligence is good. But emotional intelligence is also necessary. Stop being so elitist, woman!
It's not pompous lol
Way too many of those programs are geared to... erm... people who don't know better than to abuse themselves. The ones I've listened in on (bc I was in a homeless shelter or a soup kitchen) were condescending af. And that's likely what Tryp will get stuck with bc he's not rich.
There may be decent rehab programs available, programs that won't insult the guy's intelligence. But they're a PITA to find, most of them are wait listed, and the best of them are country clubs for rich assholes who wrecked somebody's car and would die if they were to go prison. Those ones cost BIG $$
It would appear that Tryp doesn't believe he has a severe enough problem to go through that much bs to cure it.
Just my observation. Also, it would appear that poodle's tryina start shit again. If a guy can hold down a job and he's not hurting anybody, what business is it of hers whether he goes to rehab or not?
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Unlikely. I don't need a hugbox to understand why I do what I do or its consequences, nor a shoulder to cry on about it all.
^ This. The guy is like 3x more educated than most of the social work types who run those things and probably twice as smart. That's like putting a world class athlete in a middle school gym class bc he messed up his leg.
r00d alena :P
I see. You've only been around severely fucked up addicts.
Not all addicts are touched with crazy. I've met a few who can function. Not many, but they do exist.
When I meet an addict (all teasing aside) how much time I spend around them is determined by how they treat me. I basically imagine that they do what they do without the bottle or bong in their hands and guage the behaviours on a scale of how fucked up they would be if a sober person who claims 100% normalcy were doing the same thing.
The same with criminals, homeless people, dx'ed PDs or what have you.
Ignoring the labels and judging the behaviours and moral reasoning alone helps me to make more accurate predictions about how safe I'll be in the presence of this person or that.
Tryp has his flaws, but I've seen much worse.
So am I trying to start shit just because I asked him how often does that happen? I think you're right though. They need a better set up. Better programs.
I have serious issues with addicts. I've tried hard to work through them and am still trying to, but I'm way jaded from the family addicts I've grown up around. Put up with shit I can't even begin to comprehend now, looking back... trying to be a good sister. Trying to show them I'd never disown them, or think the worst of them- when deep down I wanted to just go ahead and despise them. Hang them all from a tree and set the yard on fire.
I sometimes think that is the one thing I may never come to have an understanding of. Addicts. No matter how many books I read, or documentaries I watch. It's a tough pill to swallow. I can't figure out how to accept them.
Some people can't do it on their own, Xena and its okay to ask for help. Some people need others to support them, need that socializing to say, not be bored and drink.
Also, it would appear that poodle's tryina start shit again.
What. How?
If a guy can hold down a job and he's not hurting anybody, what business is it of hers whether he goes to rehab or not?
I'm asking if he would consider it and you're right it isn't my business but its tryp and I care about and feel protective of him. I know about things that have happened because of drugs and it scares me like you have no idea. I'm not entirely sure how you got that I was trying to start shit with him.
Most people with addiction don't usually believe they need help or believe that their addiction is much of a problem.
What is your problem with me?