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WW3 stated: source post

racism, rape, murder, government corruption, etc

racism isnt nearly as bad as the others. dont put them on the same list

says the conservative, white guy. lol

racism, rape, murder, government corruption, etc

racism isnt nearly as bad as the others. dont put them on the same list

tell me how i knew you would post something irrelevant and stupid

I mean I'm not saying George Carlin said this 10 years ago.

Daniella stated: source post

i wish more people would just be honest and admit they're too arrogant to think maybe just maybe "evolution" has better plans for the species than this mess we have right now.

 

I think I agree. With global warming as a human-made problem primarily based on over-consumption and greed, maybe we will simply evolve ourselves out of existence. 

Tryptamine stated: source post

I agree that all the things she described that I addressed have improved over time. But I cannot agree that human nature itself has not led to the state of the world we exist in, nor do I think they can simply be "stamped out."

But if you say human nature is responsible for the bad then it stems that the opposite is also true and then what exactly equates to "human nature"? Is it one universal viewpoint or set of behavioural characteristics? Or possible behaviour patterns that have emerged based on unique circumstances, such as culture, access to resources, geography etc.?

The agrarian revolution is what led to the drop in testosterone levels and further development of empathy.

I've never heard this before. It's interesting. I can think of a few reasons this may have happened. It also could be used to argue that 'human nature' is amenable to a change in circumstances - less stress, less testosterone, more cooperation? I dunno just a thought.  

Consequently, overall, there are more moral than amoral or immoral individuals, or others who have formulated their own unique moralities. Richard Dawkins best explained the situation about social animals in his book, The Selfish Gene.

I don't feel like reading this right now but I like much of what Dawkins says so I will later - thanks for the info.  

This thread lists negative human behaviours alongside human nature. However, for every example given it should be noted that the opposite behaviours are practiced more frequently. For the amount of humans on the planet you would think there would be more racism, murder and rape. These things are more of an anomaly than the norm.   

ha, i knew you would support human nature. 

Human nature is human nature, just like bonobo nature is bonobo nature.

i didn't say that was what it was, i said that's the context most people mention it in.

Human nature.

i'd need more studies than that and with  larger sample sizes. you can find a study that says anything, but finding 10-20 gets more difficult

Human nature does not excuse rape. But consider that it is a phenomena that has existed throughout human history. Like all other animals, humans are hard-wired to propagate. Even forcefully so at times. What is your solution to rape?

at least you realize human nature doesn't explain rape, but you contradicted yourself. you said they're hard-wired to propagate forcefully sometimes. that means humans are...hard-wired to rape

We are 98.8% genetically similar to chimpanzees. Homocide should be no surprise to anyone who knows that.

The evolution of the orbitofrontal cortex and drop in testosterone levels approximately 50,000 years ago makes us less violent our fellow primates.

Humans have been on this planet for around 200,000 years, and now we browse the Internet on tablets and send probes to other planets. But still there is murder, still there is war. We've come far as a species. Yet how fundamentally primal we all are.

why do you have a hard time believing we could go even further?

A potentially fixable problem. But let us not forget that humans are primates, and primates arrange hierarchically. Hierarchy is what led to government in the first place, as well as its corruption.

so if primates arrange hierarchically and it leads to corruption - so it's natural, how is it a fixable problem? and what makes this a fixable problem and not the other things that are caused by "human nature"?

SN: why didn't you respond to the rest of the post?

"i'm convinced when most people use that phrase, the only purpose is to make an excuse for how fucked up the world is..."

Human nature is human nature, just like bonobo nature is bonobo nature.

"racism"

Human nature.

"rape"

Human nature does not excuse rape. But consider that it is a phenomena that has existed throughout human history. Like all other animals, humans are hard-wired to propagate. Even forcefully so at times. What is your solution to rape?

"murder"

We are 98.8% genetically similar to chimpanzees. Homocide should be no surprise to anyone who knows that.

The evolution of the orbitofrontal cortex and drop in testosterone levels approximately 50,000 years ago makes us less violent our fellow primates.

Humans have been on this planet for around 200,000 years, and now we browse the Internet on tablets and send probes to other planets. But still there is murder, still there is war. We've come far as a species. Yet how fundamentally primal we all are.

"government corruption"

A potentially fixable problem. But let us not forget that humans are primates, and primates arrange hierarchically. Hierarchy is what led to government in the first place, as well as its corruption.