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Turncoat stated: source post

I guess I could sit back and wait for the userbase to actually ask for help (in topics, pms are shit on mobile apparently). I'll try this for a bit, letting both slide, and see what happens as an experiment. When things hit the shitter we'll see if we can get better guidelines than the vague "autistic" and "usability".

I think this is a great decision.

With others doing as she does it's seen as more of a problem. Forum bias seems to be able to excuse more behaviors

Who are these others and what are those similar instances "seen as a problem"?

ThenFuckit stated: source post

I don't think chain or cross posting should be deleted. Unless it crashes the site or lasts hours.

Because there is ambiguity otherwise and being an ass is part of this site. So if Zena wants to be an ass, then she should be allowed.

 I respect that you decided to be fair in this situation, it showed dignity and fair-play. When I made the same simple points, both Crow and Turncoat used the "personal feelings" card to discredit me and what I had to say as "Xena-favoring", even if it was what I have always said: minimum moderation.

Sun Puddles stated: source post

I thought Fuckit posted two videos that had to do with manwhores because, didn't you call cad a manwhore? I mean its still technically ontopic, I didn't really see what your music vids had to do with it at all( Winny Puhh is better tbh). It could be that perhaps you made a connection and we just didn't see it, could you please explain what those videos had to do with the topic?

Why are you even babbling about this? People have always posted off-topic. Your post is off-topic. Off topic is not spam.

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Turncoat stated: source post

I guess I could sit back and wait for the userbase to actually ask for help (in topics, pms are shit on mobile apparently). I'll try this for a bit, letting both slide, and see what happens as an experiment. When things hit the shitter we'll see if we can get better guidelines than the vague "autistic" and "usability".

This stuff only seems to come up when the child twice my age demands a babysitter. With others doing as she does it's seen as more of a problem. Forum bias seems to be able to excuse more behaviors, so I suppose a period of immunization is in order if we're to get on the same page with more details. 

Free-for-all! : D 

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Edvard stated: source post

ThenFuckit stated: source post

I don't think chain or cross posting should be deleted. Unless it crashes the site or lasts hours.

Because there is ambiguity otherwise and being an ass is part of this site. So if Zena wants to be an ass, then she should be allowed.

 I respect that you decided to be fair in this situation, it showed dignity and fair-play. When I made the same simple points, both Crow and Turncoat used the "personal feelings" card to discredit me and what I had to say as "Xena-favoring", even if it was what I have always said: minimum moderation.

Poor, persecuted Edvard. : P 

Meta didn't say anything that I haven't said. You know perfectly well that I've always been stoutly anti-moderation. Am I not dignified and fair, Ed? XD

I don't accuse Meta of having emotional bias on this matter because he clearly doesn't. You do. Your consistent failure to focus on the topic at hand, in favor of personal attacks, is proof enough of that.

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Someone's gonna accuse you of abusing your mod powers for whatever you delete, just let us drown in our own shit. Its not the SC we want but its the SC we deserve. Just delete the child porn and I guess that's it. 

I fucking hate you all

 

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Delete the blatant chain-posting aimed at destroying the usability. One or two posts is fine but after a while trying to actively ruin the usability of threads or the site as a whole is spam. Leniency should be shown towards creative new memes.

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I guess I could sit back and wait for the userbase to actually ask for help (in topics, pms are shit on mobile apparently). I'll try this for a bit, letting both slide, and see what happens as an experiment. When things hit the shitter we'll see if we can get better guidelines than the vague "autistic" and "usability".

This stuff only seems to come up when the child twice my age demands a babysitter. With others doing as she does it's seen as more of a problem. Forum bias seems to be able to excuse more behaviors, so I suppose a period of immunization is in order if we're to get on the same page with more details. 

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It seems like the best way to go about it for now.

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Edvard stated: source post

With others doing as she does it's seen as more of a problem. Forum bias seems to be able to excuse more behaviors

Who are these others and what are those similar instances "seen as a problem"?

Bane puppets, the less energetic Dex posts, Sinister towards the end before she acted more human, a slew of puppets in the past posting things like goatse across multiple topics if not straight down the page... This angle isn't new and the bias blinds, which is why I feel like there needs to be a standard.

Link posts take no effort to chain post. It takes just as much effort as copy/paste, just how it has before. 

 

ThenFuckit stated: source post

I don't think chain or cross posting should be deleted. Unless it crashes the site or lasts hours.

Because there is ambiguity otherwise and being an ass is part of this site. So if Zena wants to be an ass, then she should be allowed.

 I respect that you decided to be fair in this situation, it showed dignity and fair-play. When I made the same simple points, both Crow and Turncoat used the "personal feelings" card to discredit me and what I had to say as "Xena-favoring", even if it was what I have always said: minimum moderation.

Lolwut?

Lols aside, his views support Dex's older Joshua copy/paste meme, among others, something you openly complained about when I was willing to let it slide. Meta has always been like this, while your stance is a lot more fluid based on personal ties and personal annoyance as opposed to any sense of consistent structure. 

As for you, your version was not that detached. Your bias is blatant, which is why it was worth trying to steer away from that for this discussion. You have been a lot more on edge, less stable lately, and it's been affecting your interactions even before now. I'd rather we get to the point than make it about your need to start beefs lately or about how much you feel the need to support Xena regardless of what goes on.

What's been wrong anyway? I figure that knowing that will make it easier to steer discussions towards a more civil direction. 

 

Sun Puddles stated: source post

I thought Fuckit posted two videos that had to do with manwhores because, didn't you call cad a manwhore? I mean its still technically ontopic, I didn't really see what your music vids had to do with it at all( Winny Puhh is better tbh). It could be that perhaps you made a connection and we just didn't see it, could you please explain what those videos had to do with the topic?

Why are you even babbling about this? People have always posted off-topic. Your post is off-topic. Off topic is not spam.

It was more tangental as opposed to outright overriding, interrupting. 

 

Edvard stated: source post

Meta didn't say anything that I hadn't say either.

You said more, and much of it was not on point. His was simplified and efficient, much like Alter's response.

 

"Your consistent inability to focus on the topic at hand, in favor of personal attacks"

My posts were right on topic. Talking about my emotions that you felt were leaking while I was making rational points was an off-topic attack.

You lost this round Crow. Maybe next time.

They were on topic but off point. Your making it as if bias were the motivation despite me doing similar behaviors in the past serves to derail from actual progress. If it were Cad doing chain vid-spam to a Xena topic, I'd still have responded in that way, and somehow I feel like you wouldn't have cared.

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Meta didn't say anything that I hadn't say either.

"Your consistent inability to focus on the topic at hand, in favor of personal attacks"

My posts were right on topic. Talking about my emotions that you felt were leaking while I was making rational points was an off-topic attack.

You lost this round Crow. Maybe next time.

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Once again, telling someone they lose does not make you a winner. Please find a new tactic.

It doesn't matter that you and Meta shared an opinion. I never responded to Meta. I never congratulated him on that opinion while condemning you for it. In my initial posting on this matter, I made my stance clear and you chose not only to not address it, but to act as though I had defended moderation. You chose to focus almost entirely on the footnote I made about your attitude.

As for the "rational points" that led to my emotional leaking comment, think again. Turncoat was asking your opinion on how to handle this situation and you were using that as another opportunity to accuse him of manipulation and abuse of power. That was neither on-topic, nor rational. If you respond emotionally, your emotions will be commented on. That's how SC works.

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