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Tryptamine stated: source post

Inquirer:

"Grouping people by their culture is much more informative than grouping by race."

It's an old topic and I didn't read all the replies here, but I'm with everyone who agrees that it makes more sense to group people by culture than by race. You have to be at least a bit dumb to not see that culture is the common factor used by racists to be racists, and that people came to stereotype races because races tend to share a culture, and color/physical aspect is more obvious to people than the more subtle common traits shared by individuals (education, culture, money). This mistake was excusable in the past to a degree, but fuck, when you get so many counter-examples of people from a certain race acting differently because of being exposed to different cultures, you have no excuse now. You are just a fucking idiot.

moonshine stated: source post

I lack the time & patience to properly dissect your post right now, but one q you may want to ponder upon:

 

- whoever planted the idea that 'racism' is an inherently 'negative' idea into your head?

 

You people are pathetically gullible.

 Anything that's not real but is radically believed to be so is bad. An obvious hint is that whites racists think they are better than blacks, blacks racists think they are better than whites, so they can't all be right, can they? Just like not all religions can be right. Racism is based on wrong ideas that reflect a partial, distorted reality. How is that not dangerous and prone to lead to abuses, and lose-lose situations on both ends?

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moonshine stated: source post

I do not think "rational" warrants qualifiers on either side.  It is what it is.  Not what you •feel• it should be. 

So are you saying racism is rational as opposed to be being based on feelings? 

Ofc Wooster thinks racism is rational, people always rationalize shit like this because it's a good way to blind themselves to the fact that it comes from fear, and hatred of different. Right wing extremism comes from fear, the same way narcissism stems from deep seated insecurities.

It's frustrating when people are so fucking confused about themselves they don't see what comes from their feelings, and what comes from reason. Like Luna and a bunch of other logic-robot wannabees here saying they are all logic, but having obvious issues with their emotions.

Edvard stated: source post

MissCommunication stated: source post

 

moonshine stated: source post

I do not think "rational" warrants qualifiers on either side.  It is what it is.  Not what you •feel• it should be. 

So are you saying racism is rational as opposed to be being based on feelings? 

Ofc Wooster thinks racism is rational, people always rationalize shit like this because it's a good way to blind themselves to the fact that it comes from fear, and hatred of different. Right wing extremism comes from fear, the same way narcissism stems from deep seated insecurities.

It's frustrating when people are so fucking confused about themselves they don't see what comes from their feelings, and what comes from reason. Like Luna and a bunch of other logic-robot wannabees here saying they are all logic, but having obvious issues with their emotions.

Racism can be rational from a statistics perspective when you are doing a business. But only if you have no better statistics.
Since black culture is pretty retarded in the USA, most people with black skin will have a negative(lazy, missing work, being bad at work, bad temper, etc) work history.
So if you are a business owner and you take a look at a statistic that shows % of people with black skin color and % of people of white skin color and then you compare their work performance, you will (most likely) see that the white people are way better at it. So next time you hire, you should benefit white skinned people(say you get two resumes with almost identical specifications, but one is white and the other black), because it would make more sense, as it will increase the chance of getting a better worker.
But, such statistics can't be used for anything else, as they are lacking research. And you will miss out on good black individual workers, but overall you will end up in a better position. However if you had statistics that takes into account location, education and wealth of the workers family, you would have a much better statistic..

I didn't hate the gypsies culture, till i met it personally. Some white people also participate in it, thought much less. Also white people smell better even if they are part of the gypsy culture... that might be a race thing lol. And i have seen the clear cut difference, where a normal civilized society ends and where a gypsy ghetto starts. They are parasites and feel self entitled and i despise such self entitlement.
I even had some gypsy "friends" before, thought i didn't like them much lol(they were more civilized then the average gypsy, but still shitty).

You should hate a culture that invades/harasses/fucks you.
A lack of hate leads to multiculturalism as you can see it in say Sweden or Germany. Where some thought cultures are equal.
Cultures are not equal. The Muslim culture and the gypsy culture are worse then the western Europe or eastern Europe cultures(thought the gypsies i talk about are in eastern europe, but you know what i mean).

Hate doesn't have to make you irrational, but it will always give you motivation.
In fact i can't hate irrationally. I must rationally find something to be just pathetic(stupid and self entitled, internal hypocrisy, has no common decency on any level, is against humanity progress in the most direct and literal way), before i can make myself hate it. My hate is just the fuel that is required to fix the problem. I can ignore it... i can ignore a lot of my feelings, as almost all of them are shallow.

I only really hate rass. There i have no choice in the matter. I feel real resentment to Merkel too... but its way weaker. Most irl people i met so far are much more decent. Even if some of them would be hated by most people, i just don't feel it. Instead i have this general resentment towards people, but its really biased and makes no sense and i can ignore it, thought making fun of people and being offensive always gives me joy, because i have this resentment.

ThenFuckit stated: source post

When they made the term race, people were definitely racists and it was a classification, there are definitively different race traits for each race. However now people mixed up too much in most of civilized society. Now you should hate cultures. Like the Islamic culture. Or the gypsy culture. Or the black ghetto culture in America(also heard it being called thug culture).

You shouldn't HATE any culture, that's rebel teen shit you should grow out of already Meta. It does make sense however to use information you have about cultures to make judgements that will help you make better decisions. For example, not starting shit with someone from the "ghetto culture" in a dark alley might be one of those smart decisions, unless you're bullet proof.

However i will still not engage in active racism if they do not show the signs of being a scum bag. But i will think it and that is good, because it prepares me for the higher chance of this gypsy being a person you should murder. Preparation is key my friends.

Seems like the right attitude, it's what I was saying above.

Just a few days ago i saw a guy beat up a gypsy for no reason. And i swear, this is the first time i actually think the gypsy shouldn't of been beaten. He was just a kid, might of been retarded too(yeah let all gypsies breed retards muahaha). He didn't do anything. There are plenty of gypsies that do something, he could of killed one of those. He didn't kill this one thought, just beat him.

You felt empathy/sympathy for the gypsy kid you wouldn't have felt, or even considered feeling, had you not seen the scene. This is the difference between sitting somewhere isolated and rationalizing/intellectualizing shit, coming up with extremist views, and real world experience. The kind of experience that puts you face to face with certain situations that make the sheltered individual rethink his views. It's easy to read/hear about some black guy getting beaten up for being black, some gypsy getting killed etc, but when you are right there, or even moreso, you've got to know people like the black person, or the gypsy kid, and understood they are more human and similar to you than you'd have thought, shit is different.

Personally, I can smell the worldly inexperienced/sheltered people and their typical disconnect from reality from miles away. They are easy prey in many ways, so in that regard, they might be right in fearing more than others.

"I only really hate rass.""I feel real resentment to Merkel too..."

So of all the people in the world you "only really hate" some online aspie dudette that had a conflict with a girl you like (100% emotional reasons, people have been way nastier to others here, not to mention in the entire world, lmao), and (to a lesser degree) the chancellor of Germany. How is this not funny as hell, Meta. XD

Also, I know that gypsies are a problem, in all Europe and especially in EE. I get that we'd be better off if they had a different culture. But unless you plan to kill them all (and before you grin and nod think of the gypsy kid you felt was unjustly beaten), the other option is to try to integrate them. No one renounces their ways easily, no matter how shitty, and no one wants to integrate where they are hated. This is no exception that hate is not the rational approach, but does more bad than solves anything. They'll only change if they are given a better alternative.

ThenFuckit stated: source post

You should hate a culture that invades/harasses/fucks you.
A lack of hate leads to multiculturalism as you can see it in say Sweden or Germany. Where some thought cultures are equal.
Cultures are not equal. The Muslim culture and the gypsy culture are worse then the western Europe or eastern Europe cultures(thought the gypsies i talk about are in eastern europe, but you know what i mean).

Cultures (and people) are multifaceted things, so hating a culture or its people is an imprecise tool for change and risks doing more harm than good. Put pressure on specific attributes and values of a certain culture instead, and let the rest be.

Edvard stated: source post

"I only really hate rass.""I feel real resentment to Merkel too..."

So of all the people in the world you "only really hate" some online aspie dudette that had a conflict with a girl you like (100% emotional reasons, people have been way nastier to others here, not to mention in the entire world, lmao), and (to a lesser degree) the chancellor of Germany. How is this not funny as hell, Meta. XD

Also, I know that gypsies are a problem, in all Europe and especially in EE. I get that we'd be better off if they had a different culture. But unless you plan to kill them all (and before you grin and nod think of the gypsy kid you felt was unjustly beaten), the other option is to try to integrate them. No one renounces their ways easily, no matter how shitty. They'll only change it if they are given a better alternative.

Maybe its funny, i don't care. I am not explaining either.
We could integrate them, if the human rights activist all die out and the politicians stop being corrupt. So its probably easier to kill them all.

Inquirer stated: source post

 

ThenFuckit stated: source post

You should hate a culture that invades/harasses/fucks you.
A lack of hate leads to multiculturalism as you can see it in say Sweden or Germany. Where some thought cultures are equal.
Cultures are not equal. The Muslim culture and the gypsy culture are worse then the western Europe or eastern Europe cultures(thought the gypsies i talk about are in eastern europe, but you know what i mean).

Cultures (and people) are multifaceted things, so hating a culture or its people is an imprecise tool for change and risks doing more harm than good. Put pressure on specific attributes and values of a certain culture instead, and let the rest be.

 

I do not understand why the fact that cultures have multiple variables means that hating the result of these variables is imprecise. Maybe if you put pressure on the people's necks, it will be fixed. Like real hard pressure for about 10 minutes.
There is no time to meddle with cultures, when they are fucking you(literary sometimes). Your own people suffer and you must care for them more then anything else. Because that way you build unity and a nation that you can rely on and feel secure and confident even in the face of absolute danger.

Its not like i hate Muslim culture, because some of them are misogynist. Its because a % of them are extreme in this believe and a super high % are moderate, but still extreme in contrast to our culture, in these believes. Because this is the end result of the culture.
Take the variables and calculate the result. Then act according to the conclusion.

But you are from Sweden, so that explains your comment(this is a joke).

ThenFuckit stated: source post

Inquirer stated: source post

Cultures (and people) are multifaceted things, so hating a culture or its people is an imprecise tool for change and risks doing more harm than good. Put pressure on specific attributes and values of a certain culture instead, and let the rest be.

I do not understand why the fact that cultures have multiple variables means that hating the result of these variables is imprecise. Maybe if you put pressure on the people's necks, it will be fixed. Like real hard pressure for about 10 minutes.
There is no time to meddle with cultures, when they are fucking you(literary sometimes). Your own people suffer and you must care for them more then anything else. Because that way you build unity and a nation that you can rely on and feel secure and confident even in the face of absolute danger.

Its not like i hate Muslim culture, because some of them are misogynist. Its because a % of them are extreme in this believe and a super high % are moderate, but still extreme in contrast to our culture, in these believes. Because this is the end result of the culture.
Take the variables and calculate the result. Then act according to the conclusion.

Why not hate the misogynistic vein that exists in Muslim culture instead?

Firstly, the idea that 'your own people suffer' is not really true as I see it today (it's primarily the Muslims that suffer) and secondly I think the idea that I should care for strangers on a bus that have blonde hair much more than strangers that speak another language is archaic and obsolete. Culture is uniting, yes, but we're all really just individuals in the end.

I suppose it all comes down to what your end goal is. If you feel nationalistic/patriotic towards your own culture and want to 'protect' it from outer influences, for example, it makes sense to dislike all other cultures that clash with your own. If instead the goal is to get rid of unwanted cultural traits (and not the whole culture) I think it's better to articulate a more precise complaint against it. This is what I think a lot of people have trouble with today, they think they either have to be all-for or all-against immigration/multiculturalism.

ThenFuckit stated: source post

But you are from Sweden, so that explains your comment(this is a joke).

Well, I can't deny I've been colored by my own country's values. :p

I did not feel bothered, you said i was, i never did.

Actually what i felt was a positive feeling. But it was rationally stupid.
If this guy was systematically beating all gypsies, i'd be fine with it. But he was only picking on some weak one, that never (probly) did anything wrong. He picked on the gypsy for his own personal ego.
I liked that some gypsies get the same medicine that non gypsy kids get from gypsies. But my personal bias is irrelevant.
And at the end of the day, this will only make it worse. Now the human "rights" activists have an example to use against any movements against the gypsies. And if he gets convicted of a crime, which he will, he was arrested, then more people might start beating up gypsies(because they think this arrest is unjust) and filming it, some even wont do it for their ego's and might beat up weak ones. Which will give more ammo to the human rights organisations and will only slow development more.
And eventually(thought that will probably take many years, we are too far from this here), they(the human rights activist and all those moral fags in the EU and the far-left movements across the globe) might try some cultural subversion, like they did in Sweden and Germany.

So of course i do not want that. But if we could kill them all off in a few years, it would be perfect. However thats impossible, practically, because of the political status at the current moment. And i do not see this status changing, its actually more likely that they will get integrated.
When i said its easier to kill them, it was a half joke. Its technically(physically) easier to just go and shoot them, then try to change the current political status, but its practically harder, because the political aspect will try to stop such genocide.

No, nationality should be uniting.
What you explained is race.
And if you care for strangers on a bus that are from your nation, you should expect the same from them. Which is not true right now, but it could be.

When immigrants started coming here, i was half confident in my nation's people to fight it off, or at least make it sensible. Half, because my nation's integrity had not been tested like this since i was born, so i was not sure. But now i am very sure in it. I love my nation.

The main problem with the immigrants is that:
First, they were just accepted without any kind of good process? That's insane. Now they are sending back the economic migrants. Now its too late.

Second, countries like Sweden and Germany, seem to think that cultures should coexist or should be forced on each other and somehow mixed. That is false. Maybe it can happen, but it should not. When you go to another country, you respect their culture. If you go to live there, you will have to change to their culture. This is respecting other nations cultures. And the other side, if someone comes to your nation, you should expect them to respect your culture. Thats called respecting your own nations culture.
Also this is what an Aryan actually is. Its not a race, a demographic, ethnicity, culture. An Aryan is someone who respect their own culture and those of others(something the jews didn't do in Germany back in the days).
Instead the immigrants impose their culture and the government supports their culture over the national one, which is just treachery. This is absolute disrespect and if they feel so disgusted by your nations culture, they should leave or be kicked out. Just like i wont go to fucking Saudi Arabia.
Of course even if they come and integrate and everything is fine and dandy, there will be some cultural change. But it will be gradual and it will be evolution of culture, not forced and filled with hate and disrespect.

If this immigration was done right, the world would make too much sense, i would start to think i am living in the matrix.

eidt:

"Why not hate the misogynistic vein that exists in Muslim culture instead?"
Ok, you can just hate that. But if you take that vein out, the entire 'body' of this culture dies.
And there are many more veins that you should hate. So only hate 95% of the culture. Doesn't that seem extremely unpractical? A culture is not a set of individuals, its a collection of ideas put to practice to create a single entity.
What is there to like about this culture? Their pretty buildings/arts i guess. Thought i do not know much arts of the muslim culture, but i never looked into it, i guess they exist.