Edvard stated: source post
I can vouch that he used to be like this before putting up the Doge avatar. He fancies himself the "refined psychopath" type, probably under the influence of Hannibal Lecter/James Bond villains portrayals.
..in some ways..funnier than thrill. he's just an overly polite dweeb who makes transparent suggestions with no pressure to them and thinks it's manipulation
"I will begin by addressing the assumptions of me intentionally pursuing some sort of a movie villain image (mwuhuhuhahahaha)."
If you're going to ignore and skip the entire discussion about your actions resembling someone pursuing an image(of a movie villain), I'll be more than happy to reiterate.
" Afterwards the Doge deserves some more elaborated explanation. "
We've discussed and you've admitted to picking that avatar because of the formal elements. The formality just adding onto the image. The Doge avatar wasn't even a main point of the image discussion, it was merely mentioned. The rest of those points I elaborated on, still stand uncontested.
"Maybe some other general observations will follow. We shall see."
I'll make sure to be very specific
Edvard stated: source post
VonChirp stated: source post
You're right; it's not his first language.
I definitely think a lot of Mee's awkwardness in English is due to that. He finds convoluted ways to say simple stuff because the right words don't come to him too easily. He has to consciously think about his choice of words and the results is what it is, unnatural/fake sounding.
I doubt this. I mean, for being a second language, his English vocabulary is rather fantastic. You would think a man who knows such an expanse of words could put them together in a way that doesn't sound.... as you say, like a James Bond villain. : P I mean, aside from the very occasional grammatical stumbling, you speak English very naturally. And clearly he has even more of an English resource at his fingertips than you do, yet he doesn't. On top of this, the particular way in which his English is stilted and awkward completely aligns with the image he tries to portray. The "refined sociopath" caricature. I don't think it's a coincidence. The only possible way I can imagine that he would arrive at this format of the English language, is if he learned through voracious self-study of an English dictionary, with no real conversational guidance whatsoever. But that's highly unlikely. I suspect he merely pulls the language barrier card when people get at him for being a douche. XD
"Ooooooh, wave of trolling and lololol's, and vehy sehious search of insecurities has passed and some almost solid comments came!"
While you're mocking the "sehious" efforts, you were the one taking the inquiries quite seriously.
"And to be clear, I don't mind at all playing along, but the 'attacks' are as effective as farting with a walkman on..."
They were effective enough to unravel quite a bit about you. One inquiry led to another until you were spieling out the great parts of your daily life along with other aspects not even considered.
"Still, it would be mean of me to neglect the comfort zone for the people whose preferred way of interaction is 'attacks'."
And who would these people be you're speaking of
"Additionally, this comment was less sophisticated, I believe ^_^"
I feel like we're finally getting somewhere, past the whole formal act.
"typing intensifies"
After you left a loaded, juicy bit like this. How could I resist
Ooooooh, wave of trolling and lololol's, and vehy sehious search of insecurities has passed and some almost solid comments came!
And to be clear, I don't mind at all playing along, but the 'attacks' are as effective as farting with a walkman on...
Still, it would be mean of me to neglect the comfort zone for the people whose preferred way of interaction is 'attacks'.
Additionally, this comment was less sophisticated, I believe ^_^
typing intensifies
I will begin by addressing the assumptions of me intentionally pursuing some sort of a movie villain image (mwuhuhuhahahaha). Afterwards the Doge deserves some more elaborated explanation. Then a reaction to Sugar's comment made as TRG will appear. This will be followed by yet another language barrier elaboration. Maybe some other general observations will follow. We shall see.
TRG's Trolling Triggers
"i have a sickening feeling that this sappy shit is what you call 'manipulation' lol. or at least charm. dude you're like an overly formal robot always desperately seeking validation in the most embarrassing of ways. it's like you're trying to imitate sherlock but getting it all horribly wrong :D
he's just an overly polite dweeb who makes transparent suggestions with no pressure to them and thinks it's manipulation"
I beg your pardon, but it was not me manipulating... I saw the Understand person in chat and her comments were filled with context, which is nice but I was too busy to bother doing some more in-depth reading. So I noted that I was pleased by the way things were typed and suggested making some sort of a thread which I could read some other time. I would have gained very little and lost nothing by the lack of thread (though a thread was made).
Also, I doubt I have defined my interactions as manipulations. Like ever. Sure, I do some shit stirring here and there, but I doubt it counts.
The most convenient approach to the matter seems to be an elaboration of my personal opinion about given characters with some side notes.
No Bond with James Bond
I am ashamed to admit that I have not seen any JB movies aside of Casino Royale (2006), which I watched passively while taking some notes. From what I can remember, it was not very impressive. Some shootings, some coitus, killed newly made coitus partner, more shootings, extraordinary (?) finale. Some train scenes? Either way, I am not too eager to watch these movies for a more suitable reply, but I am inclined to believe I would adore the villains more than the cocky protagonist James Bond, though I recall not being too impressed by the main villain of the mentioned movie.
Onto the Hannibal
Having watched both the NBC series and the movies I can involve some comparing too. Contrary to the made assumption, my favourite character from the NBC's series Hannibal was Mason Verger. Sure, he was a bit whiny, but the level of obliviousness presented towards everyone around, coupled with all the adorable piggy talks, sassy attitude and couch stabbing trumped the uptight and overly serious Hannibal Lecter. And he seemed to take the crippling quite well (Jack Crawford: "A pig did this to you?" Mason Verger: "the pig certainly did". Aww yeah). Lecter, on the other hand, took all the tea parties, artsy fartsy stuff, seriousness and sly remarks to extreme. It was disappointing to see how the pleasantly smotheringly villainous version of Hannibal, given by Anthony Hopkins, was stuffed into a tight frame. I mean, even after he was caught and acted a bit more freely (lip munching, etc.), the same overall persona was maintained. I think the best performance of Hannibal in the series happened during the time he and Bedelia were chilling in Florence. The character was more laid back and seemed to enjoy his new job. I was also very displeased with the plot. For instance, the scene in which Hannibal was beaten by Jack Crawford and crawled to grab his knife just to be caught and beat more. In any book about knife using for self defense or offense purposes it is noted that one should not stake his or her life on just one knife as it can be lost easily during the struggle (as portrayed in the series), so it is advised to carry at least a pair. Even in the novel 'Hannibal' the main antagonist bought a few items after returning to the USA.
What of it?
Nothing really, I just shared my thoughts about the mentioned moving pictures, maybe some discussion will follow. Now let's approach the main matter bit by bit. To begin with, I am inclined to assume that I prefer the antagonists to protagonists. For instance, Megamind from Megamind was a much better character before he was turned into a good boy to appease the supposedly cute reporter. Moreover, I much preferred the count Dracula (Bram Stoker's 'Dracula'), Mephistopheles (Goethe's 'Faust'), Moby Dick (Herman Melville's 'Moby Dick'), Dr. Moreau ( H.G. Wells' 'The Island of Doctor Moreau'), James Moriarty (Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock books), etc., etc. to their opposing characters. The inevitable demise is also a nice thing while compared with "and they lived happily ever after". It finishes the story and who knows if the good folk truly lived happily. Maybe the prince had to divorce the princes and payed child support for the rest of his life. Best case, he accused the princess of adultery and had her decapitated. Have you thought about that? Huh? From real life, Adolf Hitler, for instance, was a doll. Trollin with Stalin, being bff's with Mussolini, hosting camps. Nazi army had the bestest uniform from all the armies in WWII and the parades, oh my... <3 If 9/11 was an inside job, George Bush also gets some points.
So, it is safe to state that there is a very clear pattern of preference which may pose an impact. Nevertheless, never have I ever typed anything thinking "oooh, this will make me look so eeeeveeeel" unless it was for fun purposes, nor have I considered going on a killing spree and then laughing like a maniac in court.
My English
In school we were taught to emphasize the formal style of writing and it was made clear that we should avoid various slang words and phrases. I personally, enjoyed filling my written and verbal speeches with new, sophisticated words, which worked wonders to make me be more interested in the given mandatory tasks. I have reminiscences of failing some informal letter writing tasks at first due to the abundance of words of a higher caliber, and other relevant things.
I mainly use English these days in our beloved forum and while making some serious emails. The formal approach is obviously fitting for the latter and I am adapting to the former bit by bit too. Jim and his jokes made a positive influence (thanks Jim), observing the way others type also seems to lead to improvement.
English is not my Mother tongue after all, give me time. Still, I liked this suspicion "I suspect he merely pulls the language barrier card when people get at him for being a douche. XD" a lot.
Mee stated: source post
When I walked past the last one, he moved his arm to his pocket. I, however, was quicker to draw a knife and slice through his neck. The other one had a pair of some kind of Spyderco "Harpy" and "Endura" hybrids (not the "Civilian"), made of Damascus steel. He was trying to get me with the one in his right arm, but I pushed the arm away with my left hand and sliced his neck too with the knife in my right hand. I then somehow took his knife he had in his left hand (with my left hand). They were some really nicely done knives, I noticed.
I started paying attention to my surroundings again when I was sort of hugging the fourth offender while having stabbed his kidney. Afterwards I pushed him and sliced through his tummy as he was falling.
Your past posts contradict this, this came from the dream thread by the way. I think the best part, is the bit about the attention you paid to the knife instead of murdering people. You know, to show a heinous act like murder didn't phase this refined gentleman who was more concerned with the crafting quality of a blade.
"Nevertheless, never have I ever typed anything thinking "oooh, this will make me look so eeeeveeeel" unless it was for fun purposes, nor have I considered going on a killing spree "