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“To someone on the outside, or at least to me, you don't seem like you're in the wrong”

Tony is not in the wrong? Have you even been reading his posts, man… Why do you think Inquirer named Tony "the Bane of Logic" lmao? What kind of brain comes up with stuff like this shit and this shit. Many of the smartest people here have engaged Tony in debates, and the general consensus is that most of what he says is offensive shit coming from stupidity and/or ignorance. Tony just doesn’t process things right.

Also I don't quite agree with your earlier post where you said something like 'if I just say "right on dude" and agree with their post, it doesn't make for an insanely useful post of my own.'

I also don’t see the point of a simple pat on the back here. If other people agree with me in a conversation, I like it when they present further arguments, or explain them better than me, add something to the conversation. Turncoat indeed probes and questions the fuck out of people, but I think people like him are very useful to have around. A lot of us are capable of introspection and understanding things on a deeper level, but there are areas where we are lazy or biased and tend to take a lot of things for granted. Turncoat adds food for thought, you know, gives the incentive in these "arguments" with him to consider things we wouldn’t have without him.

Also, you talk of walls, and people putting them up around someone like Turncoat. But if you have a look at the “name 5 members you trust the most” thread you’ll see Turn is probably number one. He is honest and transparent in his dissection, and that makes him more likeable and trustworthy than scary.

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((("What reasons do the people bent on destroying you have?")))

It's always been a groupthink sparked by an individual who claims not to like my personality. It has to do with how I coped with my dox, and handled my doxer, in a time when the forum lead to serious consequences for some users, till now. It never phased me like they wanted it to. It just made me stronger. I did however express some disrespect toward them which made for this entanglement, so up to this day, I'm told to fuck off while further defamation attempts are made every now and then. I don't really consider the groupthinkers a big deal. Just the other day in the chatlog that Blanc character was dropping the cliché line "Fuck off Tony". Now blanc for example is a noob guest who doesn't really have any reason for cursing me, other than flocking up with some other groupthink sheeple. Whenever I point out how they are, it usually then gives them a reason for their projection, which results in some further entanglement cause no one wants to admit not thinking without their own evaluation. These projections never happens without a guide.

((("Thinking back now I may be able to remember to remember a time or two when turncoat has agreed with something someone else said earlier, though no instance immediately comes to mind. In my limited time talking to Turncoat, its been like the less argumentative something is presented as, the less argumentative his response, after factoring in the presenter. The last part of the statement just takes into account that there are some people  he just enjoys arguing with.")))

He did mention himself that he is a devil's advocate. I labeled him a lawyer and that title still lingers in him somewhere in the background. He'll challenged rationality and often will he be the first of a group effort of debate. When he imposes loaded questions that implicate his views on your thoughts, that's when he's putting words in your mouth, and ignoring it will result in his apparent gain. Just dispel his loaded questions efficiently, in one sentence if you can, and move on with what you really have to say. He'll come at you again in the future, though he's not really all that boring to cope with when he begins his deluded prosecutions.

((("Also, out of curiosity who are your aggressors? Besides Edvard, that's clear cut enough.")))

Just him really. The rest are groupthinkers who I think of as temporary aggressors, cause there always has been temporary aggressors before moving on to their own judgement of me. Generally the temporary aggressors get along with him just fine, and over the years it just stands out to me, the ones who come at me do it because Ed wanted them to. These groups usually are quick to judge. Notice how on the first page how haart started reacting the way she did over nothing, as though it's up to me redeem myself over what ? So later in the chat log she started feeding me some bullshit about members hating me, naming off Sugar as one who hates me. When asked, Sugar was like WTF ? What she was doing is a tactic Ed himself has used, as he clearly wants others to hold his hand in his ridiculous conquest to belittle me.

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My battle tactics are always based on defense. So I employ tactic like reversals and I use whatever truth stands before me against the attacker. I've choke slammed a list of women here and got away with it, cause it was me replying to efforts against me.

The only one here that really beat me I'd say is Daniella, which is crazy right ? The reason I couldn't gain the upper hand on her, is because in her case I was the aggressor, and her way of dealing with my prosecution was to maintain the moral high ground, and use factual claims on my behavior in the discussion,  so I end up looking like, and actually being the ass.

I've said it long ago, it's required for me to be "attacked first", otherwise I'll loose, the same way the sheep and aggressors come across as petty to me. 

 

 

 

 

  

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Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.

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Yeah, the way he carries on all anonymously but he wants people to take his word for who and what he claims to be, while taking jabs at grown ass men who, (and I'm not trying to insult the guy) make him out to be a soggy boy. He's been told before by some females that he's more like a girl from his whining.

He wants to dox others, yet he himself is terrified for this community to know the real him. Even TK thinks it's possible Ed could possibly be some kid in a wheelchair doing a terrible job at playing the hot shot.

Since I unsubscribed to Ed, I can feel a difference in the forum. It's not that it made the place any better for me, it's just I don't have to lower myself by engaging in small mindedness.

I did watch what Ed had to say here, and look, he wants to make sure Sugar's affairs are in order in regard to who she thinks deserves some credit. And how about that ? He's the only one who cares. I honestly don't need to intervene there, cause he's clearly expressing his insecurities so I might as well let him spiral downward on his own. I been on that train before.

Everything you and I said about Vard, Is accurate Jay. I personally claim that haart is a wretched cunt too, and is actually beneath Ed, which is a paradox, since Ed is as he is, while haart tends to prop him up before me, using the same falsehoods Ed would use such as pairing me up against others against their will. Then come back here and lie again with her silly version of why I'm so unpleasant.   

I honestly believe, if I don't treat these folks like the trash they are, I'd be doing them and myself a disservice. On that note there are better topics, I can feel the pull dragging me down again.

 

 

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You have a lot of experience with people building a persona online? Could have fooled me there, bud, but seems you have a lot more in common with TK that I thought. Of course it's more flattering for you to think you're threatening, but as it happens, I know your type too and there's nothing to envy at a middleaged loser with no money and no perspectives for his future, branded as a reject, who feels that he has to tattoo his face to send a message.

You came here calling everyone stupid and a no lifer, talking about your psychopathy. You bragged about being a skinhead and made a racist thread that showed you have a limited view of life and little world experience. You couldn't handle the criticism that most newbies go through on this site. You created 2 puppets hoping for acceptance here, both of which I called out, both of which you dragged on and on denying they were you until finally it became too obvious and you had to come clean. If I travel to fight someone, it's because I earn something from it. Is anyone who doesn't buy plane tickets to fight retards he dislikes online a coward, in your dumb head?

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You see Tony. I have a lot of experience with people like Edvard. He has spent many years building this online persona. I would be willing to bet my life that Edvard is the complete opposite of whom he portrays himself to be online.

He discovered a long time ago that with the blanket of protection that the internet gives him. He could transform himself online to be that person he has always wanted to be. 

When I first joined the community I brought a lot of attitude and ignorance with me. Edvard seen my attitude as a threat to his online persona. Edvard will attack anyone he thinks could take the online tough guy title away from him.

I called Edvard out on many occasions. Back then I didn't understand the unwritten rules of internet forums. I wasn't good at fighting online. When I am attacked all I know how to do is fight IRL. When I gave Edvard the chance to meet me outside of the internet he refused. Claimed it wasn't worth his trouble.

All Edvard has is his online persona. He can defend himself online. Something he can't do off line. It took me a bit to understand this whole internet debating/fighting thing. To win a online fight all you have to do is out wit your opponent. 

Whenever Edvard looses the upper hand in a online debate/feud. Edvard disappears for a while until everything passes. then he reappears. Because of the fact that all Edvard has is this online character. He will defend his persona with everything he has.

Like I said in the past. If Edvard ever wants to confront me IRL I will be more than happy to allow this to happen. Until then all I will ever see Edvard as, is a online fictional character. Pretending to be the man he can't be offline.

He is threatened by you and me Tony. That is why he will do everything in his power to tarnish our image. Confident people online are not threatened by people like you and me. It's the cowards, that see us as a threat to there image. 

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Actually, it was a sardonic line of questioning.

I think Tony's "groupthink" argument, regarding his poor reception, is a deflection.

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"asking why Ed's managed to influence everybody when you have not."

I was thinking about that too. The biggest reason I can think of is that most of the people who don't like Tony are more social, so they more readily attempt to appeal to outsiders(even if they're not consciously doing it). Of course If they don't like Tony, their explanations of events would portray him in a worse light. I was thinking about this a while ago,  my other post went into better detail then this one so I'll just quote it, it was replying to Tony hence the 2nd person.

"Those who argue with you hardly appear heroic, but since they talk about things in a way that many of us are used to/can identify with, they feel a little easier to side with at times. I think that is why many newcomers side with someone like Ed, because he/others bother to immediately explain their side of the story; something that you haven't started doing until recently(to my knowledge)."

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"Those who argue with you hardly appear heroic, but since they talk about things in a way that many of us are used to/can identify with, they feel a little easier to side with at times. I think that is why many newcomers side with someone like Ed, because he/others bother to immediately explain their side of the story; something that you haven't started doing until recently(to my knowledge)."

 

You got it right the first time. See haart is trapped in the whole illusion of me being some widely disliked character. It only takes 2 or 3 people to make it seem like someone is widely hated. Also, you'll hear Ed, whine about me almost every single day, even when I'm not around.

When it comes to some of them, I enjoy the trolling, I even find some of their rude comments endearing. They are easy to sort out, and there's really only one sour grape, who'll obsessively strive to keep the plate spinning to feel better about themselves.

It's nice to see members who intuitively look into the details of the situation, Motor. 

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Another, more obvious reason why people might not fancy Spatial is that he can be insufferably arrogant at times. That tends to put people off.

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