"surprisingly little"
You surprise yourself with this?
Is it a compulsion?
I wasn't even the one who hosted that topic.
Otherwise I've basically answered this already:
"I don't post about my tendencies unless it's related to a topic, but if there's questions about them I'm not afraid to answer them either."
Crow, I have many issues with your post but I’ll just go with this question for both you and Turncoat: What would you do in her parents' place? You and Turn both know depression, I get it, and think of suicide maybe. So you empathize with Sin. Ever tried putting yourself in Sin’s parents' shoes though? What do you think Sin needs right now?
"Are you a fan of them?"
Does it have to be that binary? I figure it's none of my business what someone does or doesn't do unless they've found a way to make it mine.
"That's bullshit. You argued that people perceive "stress and suffering" in subjective ways, and what seems a lot to some can easily be taken by another and vice versa, but you see no issues with a suicidal person assuming they know how much they make "others" "suffer"?"
Not really, I was replying to Xena about how one can carry that same idea in a different direction as an expression of self-loathing instead of noble sacrifice. They hate themselves so much that they assume the world will be better off without them. True or not, it's believed by enough of them.
Personally, the only ones I care about for if they will or won't kill themselves are those that I'm selfishly attached to. It's really more about me.
"Well yeah, people do have obligations too. Everyone has. That is the main part of growing up, dealing with obligations and responsibilities."
They can pick and choose what those obligations and responsibilities are though. I was replying to Xena about how she was throwing them at Sin, not about how they don't exist.
"If they can’t succeed it’s because something within themselves has some sense left and doesn't want to die, and they should ask themselves why is that."
That's like saying that someone who is afraid of hospital needles fears that only because they don't like vaccinations. One's will and one's instincts don't have to match (and often enough don't). Fears are not conscious, and detaching from yourself isn't that easy.
Plenty of people who want to die and eventually succeed at it have failed attempts prior to that. They wanted to die during both the failures and their eventual success.
"Sin clearly has mental issues that prevent her from making friends, and the age gap with members of her family is also a problem. She is home schooled."
Which came first though, the difficulty making friends or the homeschooling? Homeschooling itself leads to it's fair share of social stunting if they don't find a way to fill that gap.
You also missed the point of that hypothetical statement. It's obvious that she's lonely on some level, but why she'd be hypothetically using suicide for attention I was saying would have rooted from somewhere. Your response if anything reinforces the argument.
"You still believe it's not purposeful failure after the third pill ingestion attempt, after she got warned on this site that ibuprofen isn't a good choice?"
Yes. She describes it more like episodes, and an episode doesn't have to root from logic. Her making stupid mistakes doesn't necessarily mean that she's aiming to fail. If anything it's portraying a desperation.
"Sadly Luna happens to be depressive with suicidal thoughts too so that didn’t work."
Do you think that's the only reason that she'd choose to not play along? You make it sound like the notion of yay vs nay on suicide is splitting us into teams.
It'd be bad for the website to intervene beyond the current measures anyone else has at their disposal.
"If we don't do it, it's not because we can't but because we don't want it hard enough."
It's not worth the meddling, especially when it carries so much potential damage without a guarantee of that effort even fixing anything. It's also not really our business, not our responsibility, and I'm not the sort to want to take control over someone else's life like that, especially that forcefully. If she dies, she dies, and that'll carry no weight on me beyond missing her posting style when I can imagine how she'd respond to something someone else has said. If she quit the forum and never returned, it'd be the same as her dying on my end really.
Her folks already know she's suicidal, so what would this even accomplish beyond having Sin trust people even less?