Women are NOT supposed to have hairy armpits, legs, ginas, lips etc lol. It isn't feminine at all, its gross. Get a wax ladies. Men ARE supposed to have hair, its sexy, manly, yummy, and, it doesnt look like a sad little plucked chicken. They shouldn't have to weed whack to get their woman to practice good hygiene, it should be mandatory.
I don't think wanting a shaven/waxed woman if you don't shave as a man is hypocrisy. There are gender specific standards, still, despite the tendency to erase them. The traits that make the opposite gender attractive are different, they shouldn't be judged the same. A woman has the right to complain about her man wanting to put on make up and lipstick, without being a hypocrite XD
Personally I am not easily disgusted by the human body. I do find smooth hairless skin on women more attractive though and I wouldn't let my woman have hairy armpits or grow a unibrow. It's not smth I can explain why, and it doesn't feel like I was programmed by society for that. However I won't be hateful or disgusted if I see hair in the wrong places on a random woman, it's entirely their business how they choose to treat their body if they aren't sharing it with me.
Are you saying that women are not supposed to be human beings for some arbitrary (more likely ageism retarded) sense of beauty?
As per 'mandatory', perhaps it should be mandatory to execute any and everyone who makes a mistake in their lives?
It would make humanity so much easier to manage.
I know you asked Ed but I feel like giving input regardless.
I wouldn't try to change myself to appeal to someone I like. But I would want someone else to change them selves to appeal to me. I would prefer my SO to just prefer me the way I currently am and be done with it, but I shouldn't have to accept them the way they are if I would rather they change.
It's more about the "equal footing" aspect. While my example is more literal, it's more about questioning if you'd bother changing yourself for another in the same fashion.
Would you change something about yourself to appeal to someone you like?
"If societal standards suddenly changed, and men were expected to be hairless, while women were expected to be hairy, what would you do?"
I'd go with what I felt comfortable with, regardless if it was fair or not.
"Tell that to all the women you refused to go down on. : P"
I've seen the appeal in not being as selfish since then haha
"You're holding women to a standard that they have to work to fulfill,"
Aren't all standards requiring work to fulfill? If you have a problem with working for a standard, then you have a problem with all forms of holding to a standard, which I think it's wrong. If you stopped being hypocritical for a second you'd see how often you hold people around you to your standards, and how those standards influence your behavior towards them, your opinions, your friendship, your choice in lovers. Plus, everyone needs a push or motivation to achieve a standard. It's the natural tendency to sit on the ass and do nothing instead of work for anything. If it weren't for the standards people are holding one another to, there would hardly be any progress around.
"Men are held to the standard of... doing nothing? Being exactly as they are?"
What the fuck. Men are held by physical standards too, judged based on their appearance, just like women. Instead of plucking their eyebrows though, most have to build muscles for example, because the amount of women wanting a fat blob or skinny toothpick as a man is just about the same as men wanting a wooly woman. What's more difficult to achieve, I'll leave it to you to decide. And this whole standard thing you're against of isn't even restricted to the appearance. Society dictates standards for everything, starting with education, ending with dress code. You don't hear men like me bitching about having to wear a smart suit to some official occasion when we'd rather be in our boxers, do you.
"What if your woman decided she wasn't going to let you have hairy armpits or legs? How do you suppose you would react to that?"
The same way I'd react if she asked me to get breast implants. I'm not asking her to do smth that isn't suited to her gender. Your whole comparison is fucked up.