i don't give a shit about that
therealtsg: "sweetie, you absolutely must stay on the meds and not quit them cold turkey. it has a horrible effect so try to avoid it."
Yeah... you likely really care so much.
She hasn't been on the meds very long. Right now would likely be the easiest time to ween off of them when compared to how much harder it'll become with continuing that path. Anti-depressants should be reserved for seeking an epiphany, a breakthrough, not to bandage the problem by making it worse while giving them an unstable comparison they can hold onto and use as reinforcement for seeing life as pointless.
Systematic: "It's better than giving up and seems like it's the only option she has left, besides quitting life."
Do you know how often depressed people are given that sort of reply in a variety of forms? It's not that easy, they need how to do it as well. Even though it's something they must find themselves, being told to just get over it compounds on the problem instead of pushing them towards a solution. It's practically reverse psychology.
The approach you're taking instead pushes how hopeless things already feel and reinforces how comparatively weak they already believe themselves to be, so unless your goal is to pressure her into suicidal acts... those sort of words serve to add more bile to the poison. The hard words pep talk is often a good approach, but it usually needs to be a little more invested than that to not simply push them in the opposite direction of where you desire.
It's one thing when the depression has a direct context, a one-to-one solution, it's another when it's aimless and chronic. They require different sets of tact to try to fix. On top of that, she isn't 18 yet, so her battle isn't just one with herself, it's also one against her guardians.
Sinister: "killing myself is the solution. that's what i was trying to say"
Sin, if you want to have a chat about this in private just let me know, but I'm not sure how much help I'll be able to be when I'm not really much of a happy camper myself.
so this just happened.. my mom comes down into my / my dad's room asking my dad why the airline website won't work. and the site does what it's supposed to do when he's watching, because of course that's how it always works lol. and my mom says "i booked a flight to place!!" and my dad is like, what?? and my mom says, i woke up this morning and i was like, you know i think i'll look at flights, just out of curiosity. and then i was like, you know, i think i'll book a flight. and she did this completely without asking anyone lol. she's so determined to get what she wants that she's just gonna do this. and so she's flying down there in some amount of time to look at real estate. kind of exciting i guess. or at least for me. idk if my dad is too thrilled
i've talked in private with sinister at length about her issues, what makes you say i 'likely care so much'? i took the initiative to talk to her instead of leaving it open for her to do so because i understand someone with depression is less likely to come to you. also, 'not quit them cold turkey' is the direct opposite of weening off of them and can have serious effects, so regardless of your stance on antidepressants quitting cold turkey is always bad. (alcoholics who do this run the risk of a heart seizure and possible death)
and what makes you think depression should be reserved for an epiphany or breakthrough? are you basing your statements on studies or personal experience? everyone responds differently to medication and the results (in my own personal experience alone) speak for themselves. on top of this, sin has tried to commit suicide (perhaps more than once?) so it's likely that whatever is happening is a sign something needs to change. therapy doesn't work that quickly so why not try and stabilize her mood while she gets into the therapy?
"i took the initiative to talk to her instead of leaving it open for her to do so because i understand someone with depression is less likely to come to you."
It's better to give them the option than charge head first, and many will hit a "cry for help" stage when they are actually receptive to advice. Prior to that it's mostly venting and blocking out things that don't fit how they're already thinking.
"are you basing your statements on studies or personal experience?"
The long term effects resonate through both, and I've gone on at length about it before. There's a buffer of time before the body adapts too much to it, and that's the time where there's a chance to help without them being reduced into strung out junkies. In most cases of treatment these days, it's either therapy or medication as opposed to both. A psychiatrist barely gets to know their patient at all, many going the route of just asking "How are your meds?" instead of looking for context. When it's handled between two separate people, miscommunication risks can compound into larger problems as well.
okay i just took the second quarter of the ged, idk if i'm going to pass, i probably got a lot of it wrong. especially the bit where i had to write an essay, i made this weird analogy comparing turtles to the us government that i don't know if they'll even know what i was trying to say. and it seemed like i just reiterated the same point over and over in my writing, i didn't know what else to say so that's just what i did, and so it was kind of a stupid piece of writing. i hope i don't have to do this all over again