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"Unless you have a Phd in psychology or sociology, I'm not willing to just go with what you say about that."

So... if someone did you would just go with what's being said?

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Embedding a youtube video and reducing the size to 1x1 is how to make it invisible like that, while adding ?autoplay=1 to the end of the link within the embed code makes it start on it's own.

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Who did then? Is there a way to tell?

edit: haha, you did it on this page.

How can it be done? I want to make stuff start playing too.

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by Turncoat

"I meant those that study/observe human behavior in general."



They have what they see and the bias that follows attempting to interpret it.

...and that's part of the reason why I said there's still a chance they might be wrong. Unless you have statistics on how pervasive bias in psychology research is, it's safe to assume that these professionals have a higher probability of being right than I do. 

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"Are you the one who put them in the thread? XD"

Who, me? Never.

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by Daniella

That's your opinion -- unless you're just referring to yourself. Even if you are, how do I know you're not just trying to cover your ass with meta-manipulation?

Wasn't referring just to myself. Even so, do you see me as someone going to this length to what, manipulate more easily online? XD Getting to know people's personalities, what they want and what is and isn't in their character to do is kinda key in spotting manipulative attempts. Work on that.

 Exactly, which is why you bringing up how conscious manipulation is was irrelevant.

So you make no difference between conscious manipulation and subconscious one?

 

by Legga

It's a shame you dont find the topic pleasing. Instead of undermining this one, I advice you to look into other topics or creating your own one.

I am not undermining this topic. I have my own curiosity about dan's weird fixation with it. And even if I was, what, are we supposed to post only on threads where we agree with the original poster or the topic?

 

by Turncoat

"The whispers on this thread sound like gay men gossiping."

It's interesting that that's what first comes to mind for you.

Well, at least one more person agrees with me. It's interesting you found that interesting though. Are you the one who put them in the thread? XD

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True. That's why sub-fields and studies closer to empirical methodologies are more "credible" than those further away from them. Cognitive psychology is a good example of a branch of psychology that retains close ties with empiricism. Psychoanalysis, however, has been practically tossed out the window. At least that's what my cognitive psychology professor told us.

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At this point, you seem like you're just questioning the validity of psychology in general instead of just questioning whether or not it's justified to trust a professional?  I'm wondering why you didn't make that more clear from the start. 

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It's only a little above the par of saying that clerics must know more about faith than farmers. All that really divides them is their title and the conviction behind the ideas their faith serves.

Psychology in many ways is just another matter of taking things on faith.

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Cause and effect does show some patterns, but the why for those behaviors are changed often. If a witch doctor makes a head shrink and claims it was from the grace of his gods, does that make it true because he was capable of shrinking said head?

Like many cases, we are capable of observing what is happening, but the why is up for debate.

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